Apple Rumored to Launch Notch-Less iPhone in 2020

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple may be gearing up to slim down and then completely remove the notch from iPhones over the next two years.


    First, reputable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is out with a new research note today via Chinese website MyDrivers in which he claims that at least one new iPhone in 2020 will be equipped with a smaller front camera lens for an improved screen-to-bezel ratio, suggesting the notch will be slimmer.

    Second, the China Times cites an analyst at investment firm Credit Suisse in Asia who believes Apple plans to release one new iPhone model without a notch or Face ID in 2020. The analyst claims the iPhone will instead feature an under-screen front camera and full-screen acoustic fingerprint authentication, which sounds like a version of Touch ID that would work anywhere on the iPhone's display.

    The analyst believes all three new iPhones will be notch-less in 2021, completing the transition to under-screen front cameras and full-screen fingerprint authentication. The report claims Apple is likely to develop its own under-screen fingerprinting technology rather than rely on a third-party provider.

    Together, these rumors paint the following timeline:2019: Three new iPhones with Face ID and no changes to notch
    2020: Two new iPhones with Face ID and slimmer notches, one new notch-less iPhone with full-screen fingerprint authentication
    2021: Three new notch-less iPhones with full-screen fingerprint authentication
    Just last week, a report claimed that Apple plans to launch a new iPhone with under-screen fingerprint technology, but the report suggested the device will be limited to the budget-conscious Chinese market, with the under-screen fingerprint technology thought to cost less than Face ID sensors.

    Likewise, following meetings with suppliers in Apple's Asian supply chain in May, Barclays analysts claimed that 2020 iPhone models will have acoustic fingerprint technology that could allow for full-screen Touch ID.

    The notch has been a controversial design decision since it debuted on the iPhone X in 2017, and it has always felt like a stopgap on the way to an iPhone with a truly edge-to-edge display, so these rumors certainly have some plausibility. However, these reports should still be viewed with some skepticism until they are corroborated by other sources. It is also early, so these plans could change.

    The possibility of a notch-less iPhone does look increasingly promising. In January, for example, Apple supplier AMS launched new under-screen ambient light and proximity sensors, while Chinese smartphone makers Oppo and Xiaomi have recently showcased smartphones with under-screen front cameras.

    Samsung has so far taken a different approach to avoid the notch, with its Galaxy S10 and Galaxy S10+ smartphones featuring circular and pill-shaped front camera cutouts respectively in the top-right corner of the display.


    Apple's exact approach if any remains to be seen, but it is certainly starting to sound like the notch might not be around for too much longer.

    Article Link: Apple Rumored to Launch Notch-Less iPhone in 2020
  2. Maclver macrumors 68020


    Nov 23, 2008
    36°07′53″N 95°56′14″W
  3. sracer macrumors G3


    Apr 9, 2010
    I was against the notch. I thought it was hideous and greatly distracted from the user experience. But the legions of notch-loving fans convinced me otherwise... now, no notch, no sale.
  4. techfreak23 macrumors regular


    Sep 8, 2013
    I wonder if that’s why they are taking out 3D Touch. It would make sense if they are really trying to get the under the screen fingerprint tech in, they would want to remove that other bit of screen tech for 3D Touch. Still sucks about 3D Touch though...
  5. TreyCox macrumors regular

    Jan 6, 2012
    Washington, DC
    I cannot wait to get Touch ID back. I really do not like Face ID at all. full screen Touch ID would be a much much better user experience than Face ID.
  6. Braderunner macrumors 6502a

    Oct 2, 2015
    Fingerprint authentication?! I never want to go back to touch id again!
  7. SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    Maybe it’s just foreshadowing, which if you look at past things that were rumoured there was always something software related leading up to them
  8. Icaras macrumors 603


    Mar 18, 2008
    California, United States
    2020 iPhone here I come. Just please please please come out with a 5.4” NON OLED XR too!
  9. noraa macrumors 6502

    Jun 23, 2003
    I can't imagine Apple abandoning Face ID. It's a technological marvel, and with iOS 13 it's even better (running the current beta, and Face ID I truly faster). I could see both Face ID and Touch ID as an option...
  10. radiologyman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 23, 2011
    Looks like Apple started listening to customers after some drop in sales. Imagine what would bigger drop do!
  11. Mac Fly (film) macrumors 65816

    Mac Fly (film)

    Feb 12, 2006
    Call me sceptical about these under screen cameras. The video is supposedly just that, but can we be guaranteed the camera was under the display and not sneakily hiding in top or bottom bezel for leaky marketing hype? And what sort of IRL issues will this camera invariably have? I’m not saying impossible, but I am saying I’ll wait for all the reviews to form something resembling an opinion. And the latter analyst is probably just mostly making **** up.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 10, 2019 ---
    Indeed, but these phones are not yet guaranteed. It’s a rumor at this point.
  12. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
    I hope so. Just need my 7+ to hold out another year then.
  13. kinless macrumors regular


    Apr 2, 2003
    Tustin, California
    If the 2020 high-end model is true, I'll finally have something to replace my 6S. Touch ID and no notch, sirs.
  14. citysnaps macrumors 601

    Oct 10, 2011
    San Francisco
    Same here.

    Also...there's no way Apple is giving up on FaceId, which is a kind if technology demonstrator/testbed for their AR initiative.
  15. goobot macrumors 603


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
  16. azdolan macrumors member

    Jun 21, 2017
    Dundee, Scotland
    I can’t see them getting rid of Face ID. It’s so convenient and, in my opinion, better than Touch ID
  17. bodonnell202 macrumors 65816


    Jan 5, 2016
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Hope this is true! My iPhone 8 should last me until 2020 so this works for me.
  18. ayzee macrumors 6502a


    Jun 12, 2008
    Keeping my 8 Plus going until they release an all screen model with fingerprint technology. The notch is simply hideous design.
  19. BootsWalking macrumors 65816

    Feb 1, 2014
    Good, Face ID with a notch was a stopgap kludge until they could get a screen-based fingerprint reader working. And for those who are fans of Face ID they may still find a way to get that working too without a notch - other companies already have working prototypes of front-facing cameras that work under and through the display.
  20. PickUrPoison Suspended

    Sep 12, 2017
    Sunnyvale, CA
    I think the phone(s) without FaceID will be the budget segment. It doesn’t really make sense that they’re abandoning FaceID, unless they’re giving up on depth sensing altogether; FaceID is only one application of the TrueDepth system.
  21. drumcat macrumors 6502a


    Feb 28, 2008
    Otautahi, Aotearoa
    "Reputable Analyst"???

    The guy that just completely missed on the "16-inch MacBook Pro"?

    Come on... noted, but surely not reputable anymore.
  22. MisterSavage macrumors 6502a


    Nov 10, 2018
    As someone who loves Face ID and doesn't even notice the notch it will nice not to have to read posts about the notch anymore if this is true.
  23. dmylrea macrumors 68030


    Sep 27, 2005
    And people wonder why iPhones cost so much? All the R&D costs to engineer a fix for a "problem" that doesn't exist! Does the notch or pinhole really bother people that much? I still use my 7 Plus with (god forbid) A BEZEL, and I never even notice it!

    How about just reducing the price of the phones so people won't hold on to their phones for 4+ years because iPhones cost >$1000!

    Give us top-tier cameras, OLED displays and cut the price!
  24. tgwaste macrumors 6502a


    Sep 18, 2013
    Great news. Good to see Apple will continue to maintain its 3-year-behind everyone else rule.

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