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Apple Said to Be Removing Headphone Jack From Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Models
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He might not be, but I was in 2012 and in Iraq in 2009 . . .
How much do you think a headphone jack weighs? Too much to carry?
It doesn't make sense, especially when there were rumours a little while ago of there being some coding in iOS 12 that pointed towards face ID working in both landscape and portrait. I don't think Apple would put Face ID on the iPad if it didn't work well. The keyboard only being used in portrait doesn't make sense either.
The only part I believe is that the headphone jack is going away.
yep. i mean look at how iphone sales have crashed since they removed the aux port. NO ONE is buying iPhones anymore.
I for one have stopped rewarding Apple with my money. I have the 6s and haven't upgraded because of the loss of that ubiquitous jack. I will continue to use it as long as possible. I normally would have already upgraded but not now. If the SE is updated and it has the jack I will buy it. If not I will wait until the 6s no longer functions and then I will move on. After going through two graphics cards in my iMac I won't buy those again. I continue to use my 2012 MacBook Pro. It has the I/Os I like and with the SSD drive the speed is fine for me. I won't buy a "pro" line computer that doesn't provide the versatility I want in a machine. I don't want to leave the Apple ecosystem, it is just that Apple is pushing me out.
Life is about choices. If people aren't hampered by Apple's product line developments then good for them. As for me, I can only take so much of Apple's design philosophy. When the drive for thinness over takes usability, that is where I draw the line.
just get a dongle connected to a USB-C converter, connected to another dongle inverter, connected to the 3rd dongle connecting the headphone...
If this rumour turns out to be true, then there's no doubt that Macs will be next. I've not bought a new Mac because my 2013 MacBook Pro offers me more than the current ones (nicer keyboard, Magsafe, SD card slot, HDMI out). Removing the headphone jack would be a step too far and I think I'd have no choice but to ditch Apple altogether.
Confused. Can’t people in music production just use the adapter?
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Or maybe it’s because they want to move on from the headphone jack and go completely wireless. They’ve said from the beginning that was their vision.
But hey. Ignore that and go for “they just wanna sell headphones”!
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I highly HIGHLY doubt it’s leaving macs anytime soon. iOS devices makes sense because they’re more casual devices that they can take risks like that with. But the MacBook Pro? Nah. It’ll stay on for at least 5 more years I’d guess. To the point where we see keynote after keynote and all say “really? It’s still there??”
I don't really have a choice on the computer side as I don't want to use another windows machine ever. Chrome OS is too limited to have as primary computer. I can use it but I need another computer with a full OS too. The iPad is much better than any other tablet.
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I would hope it doesn't leave the mac. For me personally I don't care about because I use AirPods, but a lot of the music industry uses Macs and need wired headphones. So this would be a very bad move IMO.
Give it two or three years there'll be a viable new option that blows past what we have today
True. Not even aptx or aptxHD. Samsung also has a proprietary system over wireless bluetooth called UHQ audio on their level headphone range which is 24bit 96khz over Bluetooth. I use them for running. Battery lasts ages.
Newest Galaxy and Note phones play DSD and 192khz flac files out of the box also:
SAMSUNG Galaxy S9
Audio
Stereo speakers tuned by AKG
Surround sound with Dolby Atmos technology (Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus included)
Ultra High Quality Audio Playback
UHQ 32-bit & DSD support PCM: Up to 32 bits
DSD: DSD64/128
Audio playback format
MP3, M4A, 3GA, AAC, OGG, OGA, WAV, WMA, AMR, AWB, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTTTL, RTX, OTA, APE, DSF, DFF
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Removing the headphone jack is unwise in general, and on something with a ”Pro” moniker, it is downright stupid. Quality headphones have been around for decades, and are used by professionals for reference and consumers for enjoyment for very long times. Both my two reference phones are over a decade old.
(Wireless standards however have changed almost yearly, which is a good reason to avoid exclusively wireless devices for anything where you would like or expect some longevity.) Being able to interface with decades worth of audio hardware by simply plugging it in is a real value.
(Wireless standards however have changed almost yearly, which is a good reason to avoid exclusively wireless devices for anything where you would like or expect some longevity.) Being able to interface with decades worth of audio hardware by simply plugging it in is a real value.
I've been using my ipad pro with wired headphone via lightning connector since getting my iphone X. Because I have the lightning dongle attached for my iphone X, I don't bother removing it when using the same headphones on my ipad.
So maybe apple have some research that shows more people are using lightning headphones?
So maybe apple have some research that shows more people are using lightning headphones?
Until someone removes the headphones Jacks, wireless headphones will not progress. This is the only way for wireless headphones to progress. They are now progressing! 
finally.
finally.
It's funny isn't it.
Apple are, as you say ahead of the curve, and lead the way with so many aspects of their machines.
Yet the one area their trailed all others in, going back a decade or more, way way back, is in Graphics Cards.
Back with the Apple II they were going good. the 1st MAC had monochrome Hi-Rez, and I believe others were soon there, with color, and pretty much every since Apple have been so far behind that entertainment software simply got forgotten about on them.
I'd love to have bought a mac years ago, but refused to may so much for someone on my desk with low power laptop graphics fitted.
Even now, they still can't make a machine with a current high end graphics card millions of PC users are using.
I do pray, one day, when Tim and Jony are dead and buried, someone else, who actually cares about graphics can fix this.
It's really all the fault of Steve Jobs.
If Steve Jobs loved entertainment software, he COULD have made, world leading graphics a thing, the whole world knew Apple machines for today.
Funny how one man's dislike of "entertainment software" could ruin decades of future products.
Personally I think they should have kept a 15'' and 17'' inch think ''Classic'' Macbook Pro around and gone with Nvidia dgpu just for that product - but that is just a dream!!
Apple have done it in their own way - external GPU support. You get the benefits of a thin and light device, it is also capable of hooking up to a high end external GPU and multiple external monitors. Apple do things in the way they think is best, can't argue they won't dilute the brand to give segments what they want, the masses get forced to comply.
No courage would have been removing the headphone port and pushing USB-C instead of a
dumb proprietary solution. Ditching lightning would have been courage.
Isn’t the drawback of powerful graphics cards that they require a lot of power, needs lots of space for cooling and run hot? These properties are anathema to a Mac which tend to be thin and prioritise battery life and silent workflows.
Instead, Apple makes up for this with optimised software like Final Cut Pro which give you superior performance despite running on hardware with supposedly gimped specs.
I don’t see this changing anytime soon.
Apple is using AMD Vega graphic cards in their Macs which are notorious for consuming more power and produce more heat than Nvidia Pascal.
Well, looks like whatever beef Apple has with Nvidia won’t be resolved anytime soon.
