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Apple Said to Be Stopping Use of TLC NAND Flash in iPhone 6 and 6 Plus After Reported Issues
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glad you did,
Very good you have the MLC, so far i have no problem with mine, almost all of what i read about problem phones are those with the Sandisk TLC,
good that i got teh AppleCare+ .
I like that thinking...!
Ok
here is also my 128+ Disk/Memory benchmark using Performance test mobile from App Store
Disk Write/Read: 149/295 MByte/Sec
Memory Write/Read: 1038/1048 MByte/Sec
I think there is no relationship between the problem and the iphone 6+ 128gb....
I think there is a hardware problem that "wakes up" with the ios 8 releasing, and this hardware problem is related with storage capacity. In major of cases the problem ocurr on i6+ 128, but there are lot of another cases with 128gb and 64gb...
I have all the same problems mentioned in this thread and i have a 5s gold 64gb...
This crashes and reboots loops are afecting many models (i6+, i6, i5s) and 2 capacities (64 and 128).
I think its a hardware problem asociated with ios 8, because i have my i5s for about a year, and it been worked great with ios 7.1.2
Most of users cant check this because all have iphone 6+, and all iphones 6 cames out with ios 8 installed.
Sorry my bad english.
i hope some fix inmediatly.-..
I think there is a hardware problem that "wakes up" with the ios 8 releasing, and this hardware problem is related with storage capacity. In major of cases the problem ocurr on i6+ 128, but there are lot of another cases with 128gb and 64gb...
I have all the same problems mentioned in this thread and i have a 5s gold 64gb...
This crashes and reboots loops are afecting many models (i6+, i6, i5s) and 2 capacities (64 and 128).
I think its a hardware problem asociated with ios 8, because i have my i5s for about a year, and it been worked great with ios 7.1.2
Most of users cant check this because all have iphone 6+, and all iphones 6 cames out with ios 8 installed.
Sorry my bad english.
i hope some fix inmediatly.-..
Apple shouldn't have short changed people paying a premium with low end TLC and they've should've issued a recall considering they're making the switch from to MLC in production.
And that justifies fraud by "dropping it" how? Unless there's a proven damage to his phone and it reboots and crashes needlessly, it's not under warranty.
With a critical product line, they would be in trouble if a component vendor could not supply the necessary quantities at any given time. It's not atypical to hedge bets like this. Apple and other companies have done it for a very long time on any components that can be easily interchanged such as ssds and ram.
You could have just purchased a different phone in the first place rather than try to win the component lottery. That aside replacements are often refurbished units, so you are likely to get another with TLC.
The way to deal with this is to stop buying iphones. If you feel they repeatedly do things that are not in your best interest, stop being a customer.
Change phone with car. If you're sold a lemon that performs worst than other cars of the same model/year and the manufacture won't issue a recall and refuse to right the wrong then it's open game. Perhaps consumers need a NHTSA for electronics to force Apple to do the right thing and issue a recall replacement.
I wouldn't swap my phone in for a new one based on whether it has TLC or not (6+ 128gb) It's been working perfectly for almost 2 months, and who knows what problems another one would have since there are a lot more things than the type of memory that can cause problems. The story that started this thread wasn't even true so it's probably irrelevant at this point.
You're defending fraud. As long as the supposed TLC flash in his phone isn't making any problems with speed/boot loops/crashes, it's pretty much speculation and a generalization. It's not even a first world problem, and him dropping it on the floor to get a replacement is a waste of the world's resources.
Nope. I'm defending consumers from being defrauded by the manufacturer in the first place. If someone stole your money and you took it back then it's not theft. Also, switching from TLC to MLC is an admission of guilt and people showing proof that both TLC and MLC exist means bait and switch fraud since consumers base their decision on reviews and benchmarks. Apple would lose in a class action lawsuit.
I went to this site and installed the app.
http://www.pgyer.com/tlccheck
This will then allow you to install the TLCCheck app. You can then use this to determine if you MLC or TLC.
from what I have seen until now, all benchmarks results show a higher speed of TLC vs MLC or am I wrong?
BTW I have iPhone 6+ 64GB , Running iOS 8.1.1 (TLC Toshiba) and my iPhone is super fast and fortunately showed no block, crashes or unexpected reboots.
PhoneDoctor
Write speed : 248 MB/Sec
Read Speed : 653 MB/Sec
Performance Test Mobile
Storage Write : 150 MB/Sec
Storage Read : 351 MB/Sec
Memory Write : 1030 MB/Sec
Memory Read : 1016 MB/Sec
BTW I have iPhone 6+ 64GB , Running iOS 8.1.1 (TLC Toshiba) and my iPhone is super fast and fortunately showed no block, crashes or unexpected reboots.
PhoneDoctor
Write speed : 248 MB/Sec
Read Speed : 653 MB/Sec
Performance Test Mobile
Storage Write : 150 MB/Sec
Storage Read : 351 MB/Sec
Memory Write : 1030 MB/Sec
Memory Read : 1016 MB/Sec
If you look at the small print on car ads they say different options packages will change performance
Does this mean the RAM is directly responsible for the boot-loop and red screen of death issue? If so, why would an 8.1.1 release fix those issues when it's the RAM?
What about all the people who have faulty RAM? Wouldn't this become a class action case?
Glad there was never 128GB 6+ stock when I wanted to buy it. I'll wait for sure.
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Most people aren't rebooting all day long to get the crash. It's just a matter of time. I got it when connected to iTunes and rebooted for an update install. Disconnected and had to keep trying to get a proper reboot for quite a while. 2 of the reboots produced the red screen of death.
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Good thing they don't use that theory for car breaks. Or maybe unfortunately they do.
A rebooting phone has NOTHING to do with this chip. Many of the users including me have the supposed defective chips and no reboots. If your phone is defective return it for another because it's something else.
There isn't going to be a recall until there is a determination of cause, and there won't be a recall at all if the numbers of affected customers is low, which is surely appears to be now. There will still be the option for replacement of affected iPhones under warranty.
The only issue that the customer might have to deal with is an affected iPhone that is past its standard warranty. If in fact Apple does not provide replacement, then there would be cause for a class action lawsuit which might include a recall.
So far, there isn't even much evidence that this is widespread, but just another internet "wildfire" driven by relative small numbers of anecdotal evidence.
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I'd like to check, but should I trust installing apps outside of the Apple AppStore?
Has anyone checked that PGYER's code for malware?
That is correct. All benchmarks show TLC devices to be much faster than MLC ones.
I have a 128GB TLC iPhone 6 since launch day and have never experienced a single reboot or issue. The problem of faulty devices must be somewhere else.
I haven't. But I do have a few boxes to check, tho'.
Chinese web site. Check.
Untrusted developer. Check.
Mirrored hacked apps, including some Cydia apps. Check.
Web site is less than 3 months old. Check.
I'll pass...