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The only way to get around camera bump is to make the whole phone thicker/heavier ...
Or they could talk to some of the competitors... but the Chinese want the iPhone to exist so they can always be quite a few steps ahead of Apple... :)
 
Or they could talk to some of the competitors... but the Chinese want the iPhone to exist so they can always be quite a few steps ahead of Apple... :)

Either the competitors (like Xiaomi) also have camera bumps or the ones that do not have one are either thicker or use lower quality glasses. If you look at the actual camera world (DSLR, mirrorless, etc.), you can see that good prime lenses are always bigger and heavier. There is just no way to get around physics right now. Who knows what the future holds.
 
Either the competitors (like Xiaomi) also have camera bumps or the ones that do not have one are either thicker or use lower quality glasses.
Well, China is a large country with a population of approximately 1.4 billion, which is about 4.2 times that of the USA, and it has many technological companies beyond just Xiaomi.
 
Well, China is a large country with a population of approximately 1.4 billion, which is about 4.2 times that of the USA, and it has many technological companies beyond just Xiaomi.
I never said Xiaomi is the only company. I said that the others have either thicker phones or are using lower quality glasses.

Also thank you for educating me on how big China is. I had no idea!
 
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I said that the others have either thicker phones or are using lower quality glasses.
If you say so. I'm still watching their new product launch on YouTube from 10 hours ago. I won’t mention the name of the company, but I've seen their earlier products, and they are not thick. The phone on the left in the screenshot is something you'd recognise very well, allowing you to see the difference. Apple Intelligence might identify it by circling it, I suppose. ;)
 
After using the Air now for a while, I held the 17 and 17 pro and they both felt blocky and heavy. Even the 16e which I also owned feels bad in the hand by comparison.

I think most people who hate on the Air do so based on YouTube click bait reviewers and paper specs only. Many might be power users who need, or think they need, more cameras.

Speaker isn’t an issue, they social media reels I scroll feel the same to me. And battery life isn’t an issue, lasts longer than most recent iPhones.

Whether you end the day at 35% or 20% it doesn’t really matter. And if you got 30 minutes to spare during the day to plug it in then you’re definitely going to be fine like with any other phone.

If they discontinue it I’ll be sad and will have to train myself to use bricks again when this one outlives its usefulness.
 
It could reiterate that people don't necessarily want thin, this was an unsolicited Apple obsession. I think people would rather have faster speeds, more functionality, or longer battery life.
 
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It could reiterate that people don't necessarily want thin, this was an unsolicited Apple obsession. I think people would rather have faster speeds, more functionality, or longer battery life.
And that is your unsolicited opinion. It’s ok though. Apple has options for everyone. Just because an option does not work for one does not make it a bad option.
 
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The crippled camera system is what makes this a no go. You are paying more for less. I would get this for my wife, but with a single lens camera that lacks some of the focusing features, it’s a bad downgrade from her 16 even if it’s lighter with a bigger screen.

It’s like the VW Golf R and the “euro” package, 10% more money to REMOVE things. Yes the car is slightly lighter so it probably gets 0.1 sec faster 0-60, but why so much extra money to take out more expensive features?
 
Because it was the best phone Apple ever made. It was the perfect size and weight, and only needed ProMotion and a telephoto lens to round it out.
I couldn’t return mine fast enough. The OS is not designed for that size phone or screen. Nothing worked right, even in Apple’s own drop downs and dialogue boxes.

Of course now iOS 26 brings those frustrations to all phones!
 
What’s strange in this topic is that some people actually seem happy to see the Air (supposedly) fail, even though its success doesn’t affect them in any way.

Very strange.
It does though. Whether one product succeeds impacts the direction other products take.

If the iMac bombed without a floppy drive, floppy drives would have lasted longer.

If the larger and larger iPhone screens didn’t sell well, future models would be smaller.
 
The crippled camera system is what makes this a no go. You are paying more for less. I would get this for my wife, but with a single lens camera that lacks some of the focusing features, it’s a bad downgrade from her 16 even if it’s lighter with a bigger screen.

It’s like the VW Golf R and the “euro” package, 10% more money to REMOVE things. Yes the car is slightly lighter so it probably gets 0.1 sec faster 0-60, but why so much extra money to take out more expensive features?

"Crippled" is relative. To someone who does not need an ultra-wide/telephoto, the camera is great. With such deep DOF, what focusing issues did you have? If we were talking about full-frame f1.4 lens then yeah, you need a great focusing system.

The best thing is, iPhone 17 Pro/Pro Max exists for people like your wife. It has all the features needed.
 
It could reiterate that people don't necessarily want thin, this was an unsolicited Apple obsession. I think people would rather have faster speeds, more functionality, or longer battery life.
Do you think Apple shouldn't go for lighter, thinner, better ergonomics, sexier? Are we doomed to continually bloated phones until the next thing that replaces them? I sure hope not. That wouldn't be innovative for the industry.
 
Price vs. Perception. It costs more than the regular 17 but performs worse. The single camera makes it automatically perceived as inferior to the average consumer so what’s the logic behind paying $200 more for less?

The biggest plus of the Air is that it’s the best looking phone in the lineup. But looks alone don’t warrant the price.
People see the single lens 16e and the Air and wonder if it’s worth $400 to be thinner with a somewhat bigger screen. Not everyone understands the specs, especially when the upgraded specs of the 17 line offer nothing practical to many people.

And then if at a phone store, you see motorolas with bigger screens for $300 and really question the value of a $999 compromise.
 
2 x cameras and stereo speakers and I would have traded in my 16 pro max for this. There just isnt enough to make me switch in its current form.

Maybe gen 2.
 
Doesn’t matter

The 3rd iPhone only serves the purpose to upsell you to the Pro Model.

The 17’s upgrades were always going to boost adoption of the base model.

You could even go as far as to argue it serves as a prototype for the fold…
 
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