Apple Said to Release Curved, Bezel-Free 5-Inch and 5.8-Inch iPhones Next Year

[wozmatic]

If this happens, goodbye iPhone

 

[Sedulous]

I fricking know. With "the best you'd get" I didn't mean the best technically possible design but the best approximation that is commercially viable. My point is that demand for that kind of design is so low that almost nobody is actually offering a phone with such a design.
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And what does 1920 x 1080 get you over, eg, 1728 x 972? What matters is DPI, not hitting a given total resolution. And in the context of iOS, is how many points per pixel the design has. Standard 'retina' on Apple devices is 2x, ie, twice each standard UI element has twice the linear resolution as in pre-retina displays, this most importantly means all bitmap assets are shipped in doubled resolution. The three '+' iPhones in contrast require 3x the linear resolution for their bitmap assets. The smaller of the two main iPhones moving up to 3x is the next logical step. If the phone stayed at 4.7" that would mean 2001 x 1125. Though, Apple might repeat the trick of the '+' phones and make that a virtual 2001 x 1125 canvas and sample things down to 1920 x 1080. Though if the physical size goes up to 5", that would result in 2129 x 1197 approximately.
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I have no idea why you even brought up a wedge.

I don't think we disagree on resolution but your explanation in this context is much more difficult to follow compared with "anything >400 ppi is overkill".

 

[PBRsg]

Eurika!
4.7 + (0.3) = 5.0"
5.5 + (0.3) = 5.8"

Maybe, it was planned from the start.

Finally! 5" has always been the perfect phone size for me.
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Another slap in the face to us 4" iPhone users

Apple should produce a 4.2", a 5" and a 5.8" model (with the same features!), with the external size of the 4.2" model being the same as the current 4" phone.

 

[rp2011]

I had hoped the iPhone 7 would have been in 3 sizes. Each size seems to cater to very different people so it makes since. I've had every iPhone nearly and if it wasn't for the Apple Watch I already have I might consider going to Android (shudder!) to get what I want. Although if they drop the price of the SE much lower I might just move to it anyway. I'm holding onto the iPhone 6 until I find the right phone to move to.

The 7 was an obvious stop gap as well as the SE. It seemed early on, from rumors about this time last year that there would not be an all new redesign. All rumors were about how the technologies for the new iPhone were a year away.
So people were speculation early on from all the leaks that the big change would be a year away and the 7 would be a minor upgrade. Which for both the consumer and Apple it was for the best. It shows a company dedicated to a a product and not arbitrary timelines.

 

[Banyan Bruce]

Just give us a phone with decent battery life. Please can we have the tesla battery of mobile phones so this thing runs for several days on a single charge , not just 20 hours or so.
Who cares if it looks good (Cool,Suave ) it it just dies at the end of every day ! It's a tool not an expensive toy.

 

[manu chao]

I have no idea why you even brought up a wedge.

The wedge is a solution that exists in a shipping phone that allows the phone to have no camera bump without making the phone as thick and heavy that a non-wedge design with no camera bump would have to be. Since I think device thinness and weight is an important factor in people's buying decisions, which is corroborated by almost all phones putting an emphasis on that, a wedge might be the only way for you to get a phone without a camera bump.
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Apple should produce a 4.2", a 5" and a 5.8" model (with the same features!), with the external size of the 4.2" model being the same as the current 4" phone.

And what do you think the price of the 4.2" iPhone should be? $100 less than the 5" iPhone or current iPhone SE pricing?

 

[BeamWalker]

Premium Model, sounds like Apple found a way to finally put a 4 digit price-tag on an base-storage iPhone.

 

[Sedulous]

The wedge is a solution that exists in a shipping phone that allows the phone to have no camera bump without making the phone as thick and heavy that a non-wedge design with no camera bump would have to be. Since I think device thinness and weight is an important factor in people's buying decisions, which is corroborated by almost all phones putting an emphasis on that, a wedge might be the only way for you to get a phone without a camera bump.
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And what do you think the price of the 4.2" iPhone should be? $100 less than the 5" iPhone or current iPhone SE pricing?

Ah, got it. Agreed, iPhone Wedge doesn't really ring the "good idea" bell either. But adding 1mm to the thickness seems like a simple solution to removing the camera bump and would have the benefits outlined previously (easier to hold, greater internal volume, bigger battery, etc). I disagree that "thinness" continues to be a selling point. We've reached the point where thinner actually is a worse user experience. Just like there is a point where thinner became less useful, so too is weight reduction. I'm not sure who is making design calls at Apple lately but I have a feeling it is the marketing and sales people.

 

[bigjnyc]

My heart, wallet and soul are open

 

[ColdShadow]

OLED is definitely an improvement and bezel free can also be a good, but curved edges will be a mistake.

 

[Northgrove]

If it happens, the Plus model feels awfully tempting to make a huge jump forward from my non-Plus 6s right now, and can be partially financed by selling my iPad. I know many Plus users are already using iPads less, and this one will replace it even more.

 

[Kiimora]

iPhone 7+ = £819 , so iPhone 8+ with all the 10 yr anniversary bells & whistles = £???? I just can't imagine

 

[SoSickSadNslOw]

I hate curved screens with passion, used the Edge models and hated them. The unwanted taps all the time and the wanted taps won't work when needed, curved area cracks ever so easily, it's just a disaster to use.

 

[rebe1]

Just give us a phone with decent battery life. Please can we have the tesla battery of mobile phones so this thing runs for several days on a single charge , not just 20 hours or so.
Who cares if it looks good (Cool,Suave ) it it just dies at the end of every day ! It's a tool not an expensive toy.

Just get a battery case. Not many people would like a bulky phone either.

 

[devinci99]

I imagine the 5.8 without bezels might actually feel smaller than the current 7+ I've got.
If that's the case, I'm in.

I'm all for it.

Though I will be pleasantly surprise if they actually release iPhone 8.0 in 2017 without first releasing iPhone 7S.

Maybe some day they will simply call the iPhone an Iphone without any numbers... I'd imagine iPhone 11 and later will start to sound and look weird.

 

[zombierunner]

£1000?

 

[devinci99]

I saw the SE as a stop-gap measure. Apple clearly recognizes that there is a market for smaller (and possibly cheaper) phones, so they brought back an earlier model to capitalize on that market. I'd be very surprised if the iPhone 8 doesn't come in 3 sizes.
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Apple didn't just bring back an earlier model. The SE had the same CPU as the 6S at that time it was released. The SE was more powerful than the 6 and 5S. Basically iphone 6S in a iphone 5S chasis.

 

[hleewell]

Curved like this?
I am out

 

[AppleScruff1]

I'd personally prefer a 4.7" display in a smaller form over a larger display in the same form. Move to 4.5" in roughly the same form as SE (with 1334×750) and let that replace both the 4" and 4.7" models going forward. Then make the larger one a more pocketable and manageable 5.5" plus model. This allows two models to replace three and sets an inch between them, differentiating them nicely.

This sounds like a good idea.

 

[kstotlani]

This will mean smaller battery unless they make it slightly fatter which is against their philosophy.

 

[skellener]

And what does 1920 x 1080 get you over, eg, 1728 x 972? What matters is DPI, not hitting a given total resolution. And in the context of iOS, is how many points per pixel the design has. Standard 'retina' on Apple devices is 2x, ie, twice each standard UI element has twice the linear resolution as in pre-retina displays, this most importantly means all bitmap assets are shipped in doubled resolution. The three '+' iPhones in contrast require 3x the linear resolution for their bitmap assets. The smaller of the two main iPhones moving up to 3x is the next logical step. If the phone stayed at 4.7" that would mean 2001 x 1125. Though, Apple might repeat the trick of the '+' phones and make that a virtual 2001 x 1125 canvas and sample things down to 1920 x 1080. Though if the physical size goes up to 5", that would result in 2129 x 1197 approximately.

Why are you discussing such ridiculous numbers? Just go with HD 1920x1080, WQHD 2560x1440, or UHD 3840x2160. They've all been standards for years now and look great for monitors and are now becoming standard for phones and look great there as well. 1728 x 972? 2001 x 1125? That's just madness.

 

[Tech198]

You know Apple is up to something.

 

[bopajuice]

Always wondered why phones keep getting thinner and thinner, and cases keep getting thicker and thicker.

 

[AZ63]

If it doesn't have a headphone jack, it'll be another joke of a phone.

Maybe a joke to you but Apple has moved on. I only hope Apple continues to put out a smaller phone with the headphone jack.
Unless sales completely fall flat it appears Apple's new top of the line phones will be sans headphone jack.

 

[Juan007]

The "plus" phones are absolute garbage for usability, Steve Jobs would have never released the product. PLEASE don't gimp the smaller phones(s), if you're going to sell a premium "plus" then also sell a premium smaller phone. I don't want to carry around a tablet just so I can have a sharper display, it makes no sense.