Apple Said to Shift to Lower Power IGZO Displays for MacBook Pro Later This Year

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple will shift to indium gallium zinc oxide (IGZO) material for MacBook Pro displays as soon as later this year, according to IHS. The research firm told DigiTimes that Apple may continue to procure MacBook Pro displays based on current amorphous silicon (a-Si) material until the end of the first quarter.


    The report claims Samsung and Sharp will begin supplying IGZO panels to Apple as soon as mid-2017. Sharp began mass production of IGZO displays in 2012, but evidence points towards Apple only using the material in iPads so far. A rumor claiming the first IGZO MacBooks would launch by 2014 proved to be inaccurate.

    IGZO is a semiconducting material that has forty times more electron mobility than the standard a-Si used as the active layer of an LCD screen, allowing for less power consumption, improved touch sensitivity, and increased pixel density, which could pave the way for higher resolution displays.

    DisplayMate president Raymond Soneira told us IGZO can also result in "significantly higher brightness," but the material costs "considerably more" to manufacture. Production and yield issues have slowed the adoption of IGZO, but the material is now showing up in more products such as LG's new OLED TVs.

    "Sometimes IGZO is simply referred to as Metal Oxide," he added. "The higher the PPI and the wider the Color Gamut (like DCI-P3 for the new MacBook Pro) the greater the benefits of IGZO over a-Si, particularly for LCDs."

    The glass edge and backplane circuitry of IGZO displays can also be made smaller, possibly leading to a thinner MacBook Pro. However, such a design change is less likely this year given Apple just redesigned the notebook in 2016 for the first time in four years. Apple's interest likely lies in the power savings.

    The original iPad Air's overall size and battery were reduced by around 25% compared to the previous model, and analysis suggested the tablet's new IGZO display made that possible. However, a smaller MacBook Pro battery would likely be perceived negatively following battery life complaints on 2016 models.

    Given the timeline, Apple's switch to IGZO displays may be planned for the next-generation MacBook Pro. KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said new MacBook Pro models will launch in the second half of 2017, possibly with slightly faster Kaby Lake processors unveiled this week.

    IHS estimates Apple will order 9.7 million MacBook Pro display panels in 2017, an increase from 8.8 million units in 2016.

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  2. Appleaker macrumors 68020

    Jun 13, 2016
    This, along with the new battery structure and better efficiency, will solve battery life issues but it probably won't be able to compete with the battery life of newer Windows notebooks.
  3. Crosscreek macrumors 68030


    Nov 19, 2013
    That's great......Apple can make the Mac thinner.......:eek:
  4. AngerDanger macrumors 601


    Dec 9, 2008
    Thank goodness! I nearly strained myself while dangling the 2016 MBP from my pinky for eight hours. I'd prefer to be able to go for nine full hours.
  5. gpat macrumors 6502a

    Mar 1, 2011
    There has to be some reason for not making them thicker, adding back USB-A and HDMI in the process. Right?
  6. thealkimist macrumors regular


    Oct 30, 2011
  7. iBungie macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2008
    "possibly with 32GB of RAM"

    Are users of the current models noticing a lack of RAM making a significant difference to expected performance? If so this is a welcome possibility.
  8. zoffdino macrumors member

    Apr 27, 2009
    Sighh.... that is sadly true. If they care so much about battery life, make a little thicker for more battery capacity or more ports. But they will relegate the MacBook Pro to the thinnest and sexiest dongle hub.
  9. dannys1 macrumors 68020


    Sep 19, 2007
    Quite simply, no.
  10. abemonkey macrumors member

    Apr 4, 2009
    Add the display and leave the battery alone… Too simple for Apple...
  11. djcerla macrumors 68000


    Apr 23, 2015
    slightly faster Kaby Lake processors unveiled this week

    Very slightly. The reviews are not very kind with the i7 Kaby Lake... it's a "micro-tick" upgrade at best.

  12. dannys1 macrumors 68020


    Sep 19, 2007
    Forgetting the absurdity of the incorrect stupid cliched repetitive dongle posts for a minute (you don't need them, just get the improved cables), when did we all start using the world dongle incorrectly? A dongle was alway an end device, a software protection key, a USB memory stick, a wifi dongle, a 4g dongle, a 3g dongle. A dongle has never been an adapter let alone a hub...
    --- Post Merged, Jan 6, 2017 ---
    And it doesn't even provide support for DDR4L, now that's a fail.
  13. c0ppo macrumors 65816


    Feb 11, 2013
    Leave only one USB-c port, make it 40% thinner, introduce external keyboard (innovation!), cut out the internal one, slap an additional 500$ price tag to the mix, call it pro, say it's courage, and call it a day. Weeeee...
  14. syan48306 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 15, 2010
    Between the previous IGZO rumors and the improved display, I was under the impression that the 2016 MBP was already using IZGO panels. It'll be exciting to see further improvements and perhaps HDR10 and better battery life on the next iteration macbook pros.
  15. aaronhead14 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2009
    Cool. More efficient monitor + Kaby lake + better battery (hopefully) = a much better version of 2016's MacBook Pro. Now, if only we can get Apple to swallow their pride and bring back the SD card reader. (No need for USB-A, but the SD card reader is a must!). Oh, and Nvidia graphics. Maybe the 1060? That would be amazing.
  16. Firebrand macrumors regular

    Sep 13, 2016
    “ [...] but the material costs considerably more to manufacture.”

  17. Naimfan Suspended


    Jan 15, 2003
    That could be a big positive.

    Could help with battery life, etc. Now, if they could just shrink the trackpad to something sane . . .
  18. kironin macrumors 6502a


    May 4, 2004
    "as soon as later this year, according to... "

  19. zoffdino macrumors member

    Apr 27, 2009
    Even if the peak performance hasn't gone up that much from Skylake to Kaby Lake, the power efficiency has gone up dramatically. Some publications reported that playing 4K videos lasted 4 hours on Skylake but 7 hours on Kaby Lake. That and all these soldered in, non-repariable components are what enabled Apple to shrink their laptops smaller and smaller every year. All Apple cares about these days is thinness.
  20. Jacbox9 macrumors newbie

    Jan 6, 2017
  21. BigZ243 macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2008
    Based on all the rumored updates with new Kaby Lake Processors, IGZO Glass and who knows what else, I should return my 2016 MacBook Pro while I still can.
  22. Jacbox9 macrumors newbie

    Jan 6, 2017
    No way dude, wait until 2018 since there will be an even better MacBook Pro.

    Actually scratch that, I hear 2019 is where it's at.
  23. BigZ243 macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2008
    Lol....There will always be updates, but this time around it seems Apple should have waited until the first or second quarter of 2017.
  24. Analog Kid macrumors 601

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    No, CF is a must! Wait, no, micro-SD is a must! Wait... XQD is a must! No... CFast is a must!

    I don't want my machine burdened with the needs of your narrow use case. Do you want to carry the bulk needed to support mine? I'll drop the demands for my various card readers if you drop the demand for yours...
  25. Paul Dawkins Suspended

    Paul Dawkins

    Dec 15, 2016

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