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Lol....There will always be updates, but this time around it seems Apple should have waited until the first or second quarter of 2017.


I agree, they should have made an announcement they were waiting on Intels punk ass to release KL and expect to release in 2017. Instead they gave us a half baked battery implementation. Overall I get between 8-9 hours so I really can't complain. But thats after I stripped out a lot of lights and functions and made tweaks.

Otherwise this release is actually pretty damn good IMO.
 
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No way dude, wait until 2018 since there will be an even better MacBook Pro.

Actually scratch that, I hear 2019 is where it's at.

Well, if the jumps between offerings were bigger, I'd be with you. IMO, however, they're not. I'll gladly wait. I'm sure articles like this will entice others to do the same. That and maybe an unwanted touchbar or not-great battery performance
 
Based on all the rumored updates with new Kaby Lake Processors, IGZO Glass and who knows what else, I should return my 2016 MacBook Pro while I still can.
It's tempting, but these aren't really unbelievable updates. The 2016 vs 2015 is an exponentially bigger update than just adding Kaby Lake and this screen tech imo, and there are people buying 2015 over 2016... Unless you value battery life as much as anything else, why wait a year to get an incremental upgrade? I bought the 2016 right when it came out, because if it's like anything else, there won't be a major change for a few years.
 
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If they do this and implement the tiered battery design this could add hours to usage, which is good. The only thinness this would give apple is in the cover where the screen is. The rest of the computer just needs more batteries.
 
Don't call me Shirley ! Ha. I'm in the same "sucker" boat.. So welcome to it..


Its a good machine regaaaaaaadless ( I live in Beantown too). Honestly, I think it really depends on where you are with your current machine, my last one was old so this upgrade was great. I figure at worst you could resell it if you really wanted to and recoup some mojo from it. I'd have to take a wait and see, if the upgrade was monumental then maybe, otherwise this is a nice laptop. Best on the market really.
 
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This, along with the new battery structure and better efficiency, will solve battery life issues but it probably won't be able to compete with the battery life of newer Windows notebooks.

Most windows laptops already have terrible battery life. The newer-style terraced battery and IGZO display would go a long way to improving battery life.
 
Cool. More efficient monitor + Kaby lake + better battery (hopefully) = a much better version of 2016's MacBook Pro. Now, if only we can get Apple to swallow their pride and bring back the SD card reader. (No need for USB-A, but the SD card reader is a must!). Oh, and Nvidia graphics. Maybe the 1060? That would be amazing.
Why everyone forgets about magsafe? :(
 
A thinner MacBook Pro....

One of many reasons why Cook just got $1.5 mil pay cut. He just doesn't get it. The pro community doesn't want a device that is paper thin. They don't want a gimmicky touch bar. They don't want to wait around for 4 years for some supposedly "Pro" desktop that doesn't even remotely come close to being a pro machine.

They want power, they want all the ports they need, they want expandability & they want the pro software to go with them, nothing of which Apple's current Mac lineup provides and are some of the factors why Apple's pro customers are giving Apple the finger and saying "Adios".
 
I was so ready to pull the trigger on a new MBP until it was actually announced and I got cold feat. I think some slight improvements, like this screen, better power efficient Kaby Lake, and maybe the battery they originally intended to use, and I will see myself finally buy one in 2017.
 
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And no doubt will fix the batteries etc etc too bad for all the suckers who bought this ver 1 lemon.. They should be ashamed at how they handled this rollout
A lemon implies that there's something wrong that software can't fix. Seems like the graphics issues are software related, even if 10.12.2 didn't fix them all. The battery issues are just because the battery is smaller. Physics is physics. You can optimize, but if the capacity isn't there it just will only go so far.

I'm contemplating returning mine just because the Touch ID button is like 1% loose. Still works fine, but isn't rock solid like the ones in the store. It is really annoying knowing it's not perfect, but I don't know if it's worth going through the hassle of returning and buying a new one, especially since a friend of mine who works for Apple technically bought it for me and would have to re-buy if I want the friends and family discount again. I also have the LG 5k so I rarely use the laptop's keyboard. 1st world problems lol.
 
The glass edge and backplane circuitry of IGZO displays can also be made smaller, possibly leading to a thinner MacBook Pro. However, such a design change is less likely this year given Apple just redesigned the notebook in 2016 for the first time in four years. Apple's interest likely lies in the power savings.
Oh MR... You are soooo wrong on this one...
 
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Forgetting the absurdity of the incorrect stupid cliched repetitive dongle posts for a minute (you don't need them, just get the improved cables), when did we all start using the world dongle incorrectly? A dongle was alway an end device, a software protection key, a USB memory stick, a wifi dongle, a 4g dongle, a 3g dongle. A dongle has never been an adapter let alone a hub...
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And it doesn't even provide support for DDR4L, now that's a fail.

From Wikipedia:
"A dongle is a small piece of hardware that connects to another device to provide it with additional functionality."

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
"Definition of dongle: a small device that plugs into a computer and serves as an adapter or as a security measure to enable the use of certain software"
 
Apple will never do a double redesign in the same year, so no thinners macbook pro later this year
 
Forgetting the absurdity of the incorrect stupid cliched repetitive dongle posts for a minute (you don't need them, just get the improved cables), when did we all start using the world dongle incorrectly? A dongle was alway an end device, a software protection key, a USB memory stick, a wifi dongle, a 4g dongle, a 3g dongle. A dongle has never been an adapter let alone a hub...
The meaning of "dongle" has expanded beyond the above limited scope:
Definition of dongle
Definition of dongle
: a small device that plugs into a computer and serves as an adapter or as a security measure to enable the use of certain software

TechTerms: Dongle
A dongle is a small device, typically about the size of a flash drive, that plugs in to a computer. Some dongles act as security keys while others serve as adapters. While early dongles connected to parallel ports on PCs and ADB ports on Macs, modern versions typically connect to a USB port.
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