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My 2011 17" MBP with an ATi GPU has failed twice. This is not simply a GPU manufacturer fault. I've also had two nMPs with heat related GPU issues. Apple have an issue with heat and I'm pretty sure it has to do with placing form above function...

Agreed. My 2015 15" MBP (highest specs) has also had problems. It's not just NVidia. It's also AMD, butm ore importantly, how Apple designs its logic board and its horrible fanning system for higher end laptops.
 
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What compromises will have to be made?

No more discrete graphics card - integrated only(?) - which isn't good enough for a supposedly 'Pro' machine.

Thinner isn't always better.

Fortunately, this rumour comes from DigiTimes, who are usually wrong.. ball out of the stadium wrong / as reliable as England football team winning a penalty shoot out.

Every benefit with the discrete graphics cards on the short term is waisted over the long term when the soldering stuff is detoriating. I've had it with Apple's discrete graphics cards, it was terrible with the 2007 MBP and it's only slightly better with my current 2010 MBP. I read similar stories about other MBP releases. I'm in for an upgrade but perferably without the discrete graphics card.

So, if Apple is going to release some 15" MB with Skylake and maybe even an i7, a magsafe and a proper keyboard, then I might very well be tempted to upgrade the first day it's available here. Otherwise I'll struggle along with my 2010 hires i7 MBP which is still fast enough for everyday work as long as the GPU doesn't cause problems.
 
Great! Thinner laptop, Fewer to no usb ports, no 3.5mm audio jack, worse performance. Just what I want. Thanks Apple.
 
So the MBP is getting the MacBook's crappy keyboard? I guess that makes an eventual purchase of a Surface Book to replace my current MBP a bit more justifiable.
 
I really want Apple to offer a laptop with an LTE connection.

It seems bizarre to me that the iPad has had cellular antennas from the beginning, 6 years ago now, but Apple has never given that to their laptops, even as an optional add-on, throughout the many revisions that they've had to their laptop line over the years.

If Apple put cellular connections in their computers, I could just cut Comcast entirely. AT&T's LTE is faster and cheaper than my Comcast broadband, but because tethering is less than convenient, I still mostly use broadband for when my computers need to connect to the internet.

I don't see that happening any time soon. Cellular laptop connections have never sold terribly well from other vendors, and they usually just integrated a pluggable module from a third party. There's considerable hassle to getting a series of laptops cleared by the carriers (and adding native cellular support to OS X) and the margins just may not be there to make it worthwhile.

That said, there are plenty of USB modems available that are compatible with a Mac. If you're used to using a broadband router now it might be worth looking in to a router that lets you plug in an LTE modem and use it the same way you've been using your Comcast connection. TP-LINK has at least one model that's portable, about $35, and will work with an AT&T USB modem pretty easily.
 
"... Performance is paramount, please don't sacrifice performance for thinness...

This in spades ^^^

A relentless drive for unapologetically anorexic laptops.

[While we are reminded that extreme thinness is all-good, did you notice Phil Schiller's "Michelin Man" body shape? He must have forgotten how to use the Apple Watch with its Health apps.]
 
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The ultra-mega-super-duper thinness is at the top of my wishlist ... oh wait...what..got my wishlist confused with the one from Apple's marketing department. Hmmm.
 
I call BS.. I mean, it's pretty common knowledge that Apple will be releasing new Macs at WWDC since we didn't see any yesterday.. Also, what has happened since yesterday? Nothing! What has Digitimes done to find that information in less than 24 hours?

If there is any weight to these claims then it's worrying that the headline/selling point is focusing on thinness.. Thats fine for the Airs/MBs but for me the rMBP is as thin as it needs to be, i think it's a perfect size and can fit normal components.. where is the compromise? No discreet GPU? no ports?

Either way, i'm sure they'll be great devices, but i've stopped caring... I've pulled the plug and purchased the 15"/512GB rMBP to replace my 2012/256GB rMBP... giving me a minor CPU bump, dGPU, extra 256GB Space, forcetouch and faster SSD.

If the new models, whenever they may be released, do turn out to be amazing upgrades without stuff removed just to make it thinner then there is nothing stopping a resale.

Someone said earlier in the thread, if they arrive with Skylake then we're still going to be a generation behind in CPU terms, this makes sense to stop waiting, just buy what you need when you need it.. technology moves so fast it only be a few months and new better stuff will be on the horizon.
 
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I think the fact that you're tossing up between a MBP and an iPad Pro goes to show that you're not even remotely in the same market as those who are unsatisfied with this rumour.

Professionals that rely on Macs for content creation (video/audio/design/photography) do not care about making their MBPs thinner or lighter. If anything, they want them bigger (17" please, don't take away any more ports) and more powerful (CPU, GPU, RAM, battery).

If Apple want to target the consumer market with thin, light, underpowered laptops, do it with the MacBook line. But don't gimp the MacBook Pro line.

Oh, and my 2011 17" MBP has TWICE suffered heat related GPU failure. The issues are real for those who actually use their MBPs for the work they were supposedly designed for...

The reason I'm deliberating between the iPad and a new Macbook is because my current Macbook is functional, whilst I don't own an iPad of any sort. It's an upgrade vs new product category in my life debate. Nothing to do with the work load I plan to perform on each device.

My current Macbook is currently seeing me through multiple sound tracking projects so I'm aware and concious of hardware and it's role in creative environments. Likewise my current Macbook hasn't seen any over heating issues during its years of service, your anecdotal evidence from the notoriously failure-prone 2011 models isn't representative of the entire Macbook ranges reliability.

Your comment suggesting I'm unaware of creative demands on hardware is severely misplaced, as is the back handed 'actually use their hardware' comment.

Besides, my original statement was regarding the never-ending negativity on this forum regarding Apple's direction as of late. But tell me again about the demands I make of my devices or the marketplace I represent...
 
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Note to Apple, we don't need thinner MBPs. We need performance and ports. If we want thin we will get Airs or iPad Pros. Please, please Apple grace us with a real, powerful, portable laptop computer again.

... all the people complaining about Apple's obsession with thinness.

If I'm not mistaken, the article title says that Apple will be shipping new, thin MacBooks, no?

Don't get me wrong, the MBP is a much better computer for my workflow than the ultra-thin Macbook. But this has nothing to do with the MBP. If you want a MBP, get a MBP.
 
Please. no more thinner and lighter. How thin and light, Apple? So that, when a strong breeze comes along, my Macbook will flutter away like a sheet of paper?

A lot of us want new Macbook Pros, with sick hardware, not "thin and light". We have enough of those, already.
 
Note to Apple, we don't need thinner MBPs. We need performance and ports. If we want thin we will get Airs or iPad Pros. Please, please Apple grace us with a real, powerful, portable laptop computer again.

This

I feel like writing to Santa Tim:

Please make at least 2 MBPs with enough ports.
With Ports with a P as in Pro

And since the SSDs can be swapped, make the connectors universal, so we can put in ANY SSD
(Even SAMSUNG, OUCH!)

If you have to solder, ok at least solder 32GB or more mem chips.


I will never put all my $%# into the cloud and certainly not your iCloud.

If that makes me a bad little boy, who has not been good, sorry:-(

Pinch..... ouch, reality check over, never gonna happen.

Nice daydream while it lasted.
 
Geek bench scores are utter ********. Most of their tests fit in the level 1 cache and 1/4 to 1/3 of the integer score is accelerated using crypto units and therefore not comparable across platforms.
What is the best way to compare? Apple has said the iPad Pro is faster than many laptops out there. I'm open to a better way of comparing. Considering how iOS is more lightweight, I'd definitely say that my old iPad Mini 2 from 2013 with the A7 chip definitely felt faster than my old 2008 MacBook Pro that my grandpa uses. Biggest downside was RAM for tabs on the iPad. My grandpa just does basic iMovie editing and web browsing.
 
To some of the people claiming that the new Macbooks will be using old CPUs, it should be pointed out that when the new Macbook Pro is released (in June/July), they'll be using the latest gen. Skylake CPU available. Why? Because the new Macbooks will be based on the Skylake CPU with the IrisPro 580 which won't be released by Intel until May 2016.

There's not a single laptop out there right now that has an IrisPro 580 chip inside it. When Apple releases the new laptops in June/July, they'll only be a month or two old in the CPU department.
 
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We've had the 3.5mm discussion to death over on the other forum.

Yet I'm still to hear of a valid reason it no longer has a place on new devices other than 'its old'.

Its an older technology that's still to be consistently matched by wireless, modern Headphones. As far as I'm concerned I couldn't care less about the age of the technology if it's still delivering a consistently higher level of audio quality than its competitors.

Besides one of its main advantages is its universal compatibility. 3.5mm inputs on speaker Systems are far more prevalent than Bluetooth alternatives, even in professional working environments. Yes it will be replaced at some point, but is rather but a machine that's grounded in the working environments we currently use versus ones in the future.
 
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When can we just go back to new advancements in technology and forget the fashion updates of watch wristbands?

These new MBPs will be made with 4 interwoven layers of a new composite that feels like natural aluminum
but is twice as strong. This revolutionary technology enables it to be bigger inside than outside and the MBPs can be folded.

Comes in 3 fashion colors ..... and...... hold it........... 4GB with 5400 rpm hard drive, but fusioned for the milanese loop or leather users.
 
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Sure. The "laptop" form factor is something that we've arrived at by accident/convenience than as a result of some high level look at the way humans need high performance compute power on the go. Hard attaching a keyboard to a screen is unnecessary when you think about it. Why impose such constraints? Because putting the keyboard on top of the CPU and disk was the way they did it back in the 1980s?

But I still think Apple will give us one last amazing "laptop" machine.
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A small minority of folks "don't like it" (for unclear reasons). But they're very vocal and folks looking in would think there's a major problem with the MacBook keyboard.
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Sounds to me that you need to be plugged in to a power plant seeing as your graphics performance requirements are so high. Maybe balanced power/portability computing isn't for you?

Let me guess, you play video games? Or do you actually need a GPU to do important stuff?

I wrote nothing about laptops. I use a 2013 Mac Pro. I love it but when I look at it I fear that it is the last of its kind - an endangered species.
 
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