Apple is only giving up to $500 on an iPhone 11 Pro Max trade in. Apple is cheap when it comes to trade ins.
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Apple is only giving up to $500 on an iPhone 11 Pro Max trade in. Apple is cheap when it comes to trade ins.
Yeah, but every manufacturer that has ever opted for this kind of trade-in has done the same.
Think of it as a car. The moment you buy it - it depreciates in value (in their mind).
The reality is simple: the iPhone 11 is too like the iPhone12 so it must come down in value.
That doesn't discount the fact that they exist. For instance, the ones here on MacRumors...are real people.
Not everybody is effected in the same way, depending on your job, skill set, etc. It could be the target demographic for iphones is purchasing updated models.
So your point is some anecdotal knowledge about the buying habits of your friends, family, associates that are not scalable to real world facts across the globe. Or just admit attempting to understand buying habits of hundreds of millions is very difficult.
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I always think I'm a super smart guy until something like this happens. I just didn't think that many people would be upgrading their phones during a protracted worldwide pandemic, when many are losing their jobs, when businesses are seeing a drop in output, when it's a mature market and the updates are increasingly incremental and phones from 3 years ago are still VERY good, when going out in public has dropped (and so there are fewer people to flex your new phones to)... I'm a huge Apple fan (since the 1990s) and buy a lot of their stuff, but even I didn't upgrade this year due to all the things mentioned above.
I was very surprised by this. And my ego about how smart I am has definitely been checked.
I was very surprised by this. And my ego about how smart I am has definitely been checked.
My income increased last year due to the start of the pandemic, so I didn’t see any reason not to upgrade my XS Max to the 12 Pro Max for the Qualcomm modem and 5G connectivity. I even paid full price to keep my Verizon bill under $100. I’m not worried about flexing my phone off to anyone outside of my home. I just wanted a better phone than the one I had which is now my backup phone.
There have been some anecdotal posts, and a couple of Youtube videos - this one in particular:
He's on T-Mobile if I remember right (not watching it at the moment). He shows clear improvements in speed (even LTE vs LTE), and anecdotally talks about keeping signal in areas he can't on his 11P.
I'd love to see some Verizon comparisons, since Verizon historically has the hardest time with new data tech. That trend seems to be continuing with all of the complaints about service drops on the 12 line on Verizon.
Beyond that, I haven't seen anything more scientific.
Antitrust laws would prevent that, and for a good reason. The market is already too concentrated, would be great for competition if there would be a third ecosystem. Not that I miss Microsoft mobile...
Some businesses are actually booming and hiring (like mine, or anything to do with IT, remote work / learning, food delivery, online shopping etc). I am "saving" thousands of dollars on not being able to travel. And spending more time at home I spend more time on my devices than ever.
Android is open source. Open source software is by definition impossible to kill as long as there are volunteers willing to develop it. This is what makes things lime Linux or WordPress so "safe", no business to suddenly kill it.
Good to hear. I can’t use 5G because of dual sim, but how much better is the modem?
Sure, but I’d say people I know in real life are more representative of the overall population than people posting at MacRumors (in regard to how much they care about such aspects with their personal technology).That doesn't discount the fact that they exist. For instance, the ones here on MacRumors...are real people.
The modem is like night and day for me. I had both T-Mobile and Verizon while on my XS Max and still experienced dropped calls and no signal daily. I could go into certain areas daily and would always get no service, signal or dropped calls. With the 12 Pro Max, I’m on Verizon and haven’t experienced any dropped calls with a stronger signal. LTE is faster and 5G is sometimes faster but if it isn’t, it’s not far behind LTE. All in all for me I made the right decision in upgrading.
How does that help them make more money. Even so, people are claiming to scrapping money so that last thing on their mind should be upgrading their iphone 10/11 to 12 but they seem to have excess money. They numbers don't lie.
At least for AT&T, the trade in deal is tied to unlimited service. I went for it since I've been considering switching to unlimited already. That means my plan now costs $30 more per month (which is forever) but at least I got a heavily discounted 12 for something I would've likely done anyway.
I only went from the 11 to the 12 and its been a great improvement; love the new lighter/smaller design and the beautiful OLED display. My gf will be going from the 7 to the 12 next week, quite a jump. I think for a lot of people with older phones the 12 with its new design, "FIVE GEEE" (which is very marketable to the masses) and OLED is just a logical phone to upgrade to. I'd be surprised if the 12S/2021 iPhone did anywhere near as good.
iPhone market share in India is, what, 4%? The choices of his friends, family and associates are actually reflective of the market over there. I believe the situation is similar in the Philippines.
Granted, I don't think it's so much that they're entrenched in Android but rather iPhones are just way too expensive they're simply not under consideration. A quick Google search shows $10/day minimum wage in the Philippines.
In rich countries, iPhones tend to have more market share. Especially so in US where it's 50/50.
True. But remember that 4% of 1.3 billion people is still a lot of people buying iPhones.
Apple will never be a majority in India. But do they have to be?
True. But remember that 4% of 1.3 billion people is still a lot of people buying iPhones.
Apple will never be a majority in India. But do they have to be?
It's not 4% of 1.3 billion though. Just 4% of purchased phones for that period.
That said, we all know Apple's not interested in the low cost market.
Carriers were literally giving them away for any iPhone 6s or higher in working condition On trade in. I plan on keeping my phone three years and I am paying nothing for it but the tax I spent when I picked it up. Same thing happened with the iPhone 7. Insane carrier incentives that make the phone virtually free and suddenly Apple has a gangbusters quarter. It isn’t impressive when the phone is literally being given away.