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Carriers were literally giving them away for any iPhone 6s or higher in working condition On trade in. I plan on keeping my phone three years and I am paying nothing for it but the tax I spent when I picked it up. Same thing happened with the iPhone 7. Insane carrier incentives that make the phone virtually free and suddenly Apple has a gangbusters quarter. It isn’t impressive when the phone is literally being given away.

That would be iPhone 8 or higher. With 6s, credit is only $350. To me, that's not worth getting tied down for 30 months.
 
Carriers were literally giving them away for any iPhone 6s or higher in working condition On trade in. I plan on keeping my phone three years and I am paying nothing for it but the tax I spent when I picked it up. Same thing happened with the iPhone 7. Insane carrier incentives that make the phone virtually free and suddenly Apple has a gangbusters quarter. It isn’t impressive when the phone is literally being given away.
Apple doesn’t care how much the phone cost when you don’t buy it from them. An active iPhone is a potential spending customer. So yeah, it is impressive.
 
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Carriers were literally giving them away for any iPhone 6s or higher in working condition On trade in. I plan on keeping my phone three years and I am paying nothing for it but the tax I spent when I picked it up. Same thing happened with the iPhone 7. Insane carrier incentives that make the phone virtually free and suddenly Apple has a gangbusters quarter. It isn’t impressive when the phone is literally being given away.

I just looked up iphone 6s and its price seem to be around $100, how are they covering the rest $900? Something is fishy
 
I just looked up iphone 6s and its price seem to be around $100, how are they covering the rest $900? Something is fishy
T-Mobile had a trade-in offer for the iPhone 6S of $215 plus another $200 loyalty discount, $415 total. That offer is no longer available. So there were some really great carrier trade-in offers.
 
Still trying to work out how 5G is of any benefit to me.
I’m not an anti 5G conspiracy nut I just don’t see a use for it.

Makes 4G LTE feel old like how 3G was. 5G is amazing, I'm literally getting a lot done anywhere, anytime. That upgrade in itself is worth every penny. Not to mention a T-Mobile 20GB/monthly hotspot, this is like true ethernet speeds anywhere when needed.
 
I saved mine for this quarter. I think a lot of people were upgrading from older phones like the iPhone 7 or 6S.
 
Makes 4G LTE feel old like how 3G was. 5G is amazing, I'm literally getting a lot done anywhere, anytime. That upgrade in itself is worth every penny. Not to mention a T-Mobile 20GB/monthly hotspot, this is like true ethernet speeds anywhere when needed.

doing what exactly though? I don’t have any buffering with 4g. Honestly I don’t understand what benefit I would see.
you’ve provided no specifics just said it’s amazing.It would be impossible to feel like the jump form 3 to 4 as it’s demolishing returns.
 
I would imagine having so many iPhones at much lower price points like the XR, 11 and SE has helped massively this time around.

Looking at the prices going up on competitor devices, I wouldn’t mind betting Apple will be looking to raise the price of their Pro line in the near future.
 
I don't think so. Almost all the folks that I know on Android are firmly there no matter what. iPhones are too pricey to replace Android. They can only do it at the very top end.
My dad and husband won’t switch back the iPhone. My husband likes his Samsung phones too much and my dad always moans about how expensive the iPhone is and doesn’t do as much as his Samsung phones. The last iPhone he wanted was the 6 plus. In the end he didn’t get it.
 
I would imagine having so many iPhones at much lower price points like the XR, 11 and SE has helped massively this time around.

Looking at the prices going up on competitor devices, I wouldn’t mind betting Apple will be looking to raise the price of their Pro line in the near future.
Samsung had to reduce the prices of their S21 line up this year so maybe Apple will not hike prices just yet.
 
Still trying to work out how 5G is of any benefit to me.
I’m not an anti 5G conspiracy nut I just don’t see a use for it.

you are right. 5G does not benefit you using an iPhone. 5G main beneficial features:
1-high speeds
2-less congestion

Unless you are loading and uploading big files, sending emails or messages won't be any faster on 5g than 4g. Note, with bigger files you have the monthly cap limit. So 5G with 15GB/m is not too beneficial.Congestion is if you live in a crowded area and you do not get signal.

5G is worthless now because they still have not installed enough antennas, you will go many places and won't find a 5G signal. Its also not far reaching. Let me put it this way, give a person a 4G or 5G phone and he won't notice a difference until he downloads the a full season of Seinfeld...IF he finds a singal...IF his cap limit is not over.
 
Does he? Was not it just the case of pent-up demand due to the fact that people were waiting for 5G and Apple was (as usual) late with it?

I am still not convinced that 5g was as big a deal in the US (probably moreso in China). What I suspect likely happened is that you still had a lot of people on older iPhones (iPhone 7 or 8s) who simply felt it was time to upgrade.

As carriers end their subsidies and people hold on to their smartphones longer, I feel the age of the supercycle is coming to an end. Rather, what will happen is that Apple will rely on the 2nd hand iPhone market (mainly from trade ins and their own upgrade programme) to expand their user base and continue to market their own products to their existing user base.

It certainly helps that iPhones are quite durable in general, are eligible for battery swaps and will be supported with software updates for 5-6 years at least. All this ensures that iPhones stay in active circulation far longer than your average android smartphone.
 
I am still not convinced that 5g was as big a deal in the US (probably moreso in China). What I suspect likely happened is that you still had a lot of people on older iPhones (iPhone 7 or 8s) who simply felt it was time to upgrade.

As carriers end their subsidies and people hold on to their smartphones longer, I feel the age of the supercycle is coming to an end. Rather, what will happen is that Apple will rely on the 2nd hand iPhone market (mainly from trade ins and their own upgrade programme) to expand their user base and continue to market their own products to their existing user base.

It certainly helps that iPhones are quite durable in general, are eligible for battery swaps and will be supported with software updates for 5-6 years at least. All this ensures that iPhones stay in active circulation far longer than your average android smartphone.
I am one of those people who don’t upgrade every year. I am still using a iPhone 6S+, running iOS 14.4. September will be when I will be upgrading to the next iPhone Pro Max model. Pretty amazing how well iOS 14.4 runs on the A9 CPU with only 2GB RAM. Does not feel sluggish at all.
 
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Apple has enough money at this point to give Google an offer for Android they can’t refuse. Buy it and shut it down. All of the manufactures that use the Android OS would be up a creek without a paddle. Apple could basically shut them all down. Imagine the kind of money Apple could make doing that? It would be unreal.
You know, there are companies like Facebook who throw accusations of being “anti competitive” around. But what you suggest, that is pure anti-competitiveness.
 
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Apple has enough money at this point to give Google an offer for Android they can’t refuse. Buy it and shut it down. All of the manufactures that use the Android OS would be up a creek without a paddle. Apple could basically shut them all down. Imagine the kind of money Apple could make doing that? It would be unreal.

I agree with what other say, that would be dreadful for the whole mobile industry. Android is what pushes our iPhones to be as good as they are. Remove that competition and we’d go back to Apple doing the absolute bare minimum. Competition is what drives innovation and great products. I’m surprised you didn’t realise that.
 
Android is open source. Open source software is by definition impossible to kill as long as there are volunteers willing to develop it. This is what makes things lime Linux or WordPress so "safe", no business to suddenly kill it.
Lots of Android is NOT open source. Samsung tried to get around Google starting with open source Android, and they failed.
 
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