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Really this is nothing more than a price drop. Too little too late for my taste.

Great to hear there will be a new Mac Pro and displays though!
 
WOOOW !!
A "NEW" Mac Pro.....Like a "NEW" Ipad....and a "NEW" Iphone....let me guess.....REALY faster?
Apple hasnt produced something "NEW" in 10 years! Just more of the same! And really "faster" all the way till the next software update.....

Watch? You may not like it, but it was not around 10 years ago.
 
Apple should release matte displays in a form of 23-24" with silver bezel, but probably that would be 4K 21,5" and 5K 27". Working on that current glossy displays is simply impossible. I'm still using my old 23" Cinema HD display and it's perfect. After 8 years of work the power supply died so I decided to get the same display again and colors are perfect.

Finally they've admitted making a fault in the design. Mac Pro is not a mobile device we replace every year just like the iPhone. It must be modular so users should be able to at least add one or two PCI-Express extension cards. Currently even adding a simple sound card requires long cables and a Thunderbolt box with own supply.

The good thing is: they at least didn't discontinue the Mac Pro which many users suggested.

Maybe from time to time there will be a minimal refresh instead of total redesign but that's not a big problem. We've seen this already with Mac Pro 2010 and 2012.

Last thing is - how does that D800 compare to Radeon cards? I guess it's probably not even close to GTX Titan X, probably something like R9 280X. D700 was like HD7970.
 
Maybe Apple saw the dumpster fire that was the LG 5k display and realised that there were just some things you couldn't outsource...

But at least it didn't explode...
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ITS HAPPENING!!!! "completely redesigned".

Please please please make it a standard form factor and not yet another soldered in tube

The only thing they haven't tried is a toroidal shape. Imagine a donut shaped computer!

Where have I seen that shape before. Hmm...
 
While I appreciate that they've finally gotten around to the desktops, I find this to be inexcusable. Especially since Apple is/was the most valuable company in the world sitting on an enormous cash hoard.

There's simply no reason why they shouldn't have an entire division specifically focused on bringing cutting edge desktops on an annual basis ... at the least. #Pathetic
 
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That wasn't my takeaway from this article at all.

In fact, this may be the first time in -- forever -- that an Apple executive has spelled out exactly what a "Pro" user is in the eyes of Apple.

So, basically, the exact opposite of what you said.

Yes, a Pro user is someone who swipes through 200 emoticons. That's what the execs said, "And the Pros are gonna love this..." :);):(:mad::confused::cool::p:D:oops::oops::rolleyes:o_O

I will remain skeptical until I see the new design. I will stand corrected if proven wrong. Hopefully I will be. Gonna need to retire my cheese grater at some point in the near future.
 
AND the Mac Mini. Three years old?

But we have new iPads, and iPhones, and a Macbook Pro with no function keys, a 'Touch Bar', and a noisy as heck keyboard, and dongles out the BUTT... (Soon to be Yet Another Dongle to correct their mistake killing Magsafe)

Apple stopped looking at the desktop. Apologies, or not, they have failed the desktop user. The whole world isn't something that you can carry around in your hand with zero expansion, no ports, a closed and overly skinny slab.

They didn't 'blink', they closed their eyes. Now they promise to have 'gotten religion' again, with some tease of something coming out at some point in the future that will 'change the world' while sprinkling 'spec bumps'?

I remember there was a joke about an industry that pre-promised products.

'A woman that married an IBM salesman spent the whole night after their marriage listening to her new husband tell her how absolutely mind blowing the sex was going to be, at some point in the future'...

Apple shouldn't be in the position where they have to preannounce products to keep their loyal users interested. It's embarrassing...

Still, they were transparent about an issue, apologized, explained about upcoming hardware and you still managed to whine about it.

This is about the Mac Pro. Others are interesting points (Mac mini). But it's all deflection on your point.
 
In the meantime, we’re going to update the configs to make it faster and better for their dollar. This is not a new model, not a new design, we’re just going to update the configs. We’re doing that this week. We can give you the specifics on that.

I really wish they would have paid that kind of attention to the MBP line. Doing that to the rMBP would have been an insta-buy for me, unlike the gelded turd Apple dropped on MBP users instead.
 
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If Apple is selling outdated tech for a high price now, I can't imagine how expensive all these updates are gonna be. There will probably be a watered down, feature stripped iMac starting at 2,499.99$

Can't blame Apple too much here. "Outdated tech" does not really come down in price. I looked at creating a custom built machine with the same 6-core processor. The processor alone is still averaging for $1,500.
 
Finally, some good news! No USB-C though?!

Getting it on a lease is perhaps the only option that makes much sense.

Quoting one of the articles about this:
Schiller was somewhat less emphatic when I asked if he was willing to make any "courageous" decisions about Mac Pro ports. I thought I saw a little discomfort flicker across Schiller's face as he reacted to that word and he told me that Apple wasn't making promises about ports on the Mac Pro. Port decisions, he said, are made at a product level. "Just because on one product we removed something, doesn't mean we're going to remove it elsewhere," he told me.

So they must know going all USB-C was a huge mistake.
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Can't blame Apple too much here. "Outdated tech" does not really come down in price.

All the more reason to update as new tech becomes available and not keep selling 1200 day old tech.
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They also never comment on future updates, why would anyone buy an iMac now with their comment today?

Because this Mac Pro is probably going to start above $3000 and pass $5000 for a decent config. Very few iMac users are going to wait for a machine that is clearly not going to be for them.

OTOH, the users who really do want a pro machine will wait and that's probably a good thing for Apple. Because a lot more of that class of user has to leave Apple rather than settle for an iMac.
 
Quoting one of the articles about this:

So they must know going all USB-C was a huge mistake.
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All the more reason to update as new tech becomes available and not keep selling 1200 day old tech.

Can you blame them for all the backlash they got with all USB-C in the MacBook Pros? I simply got $3 cables and now I have everything USB-C.

I agree with your statement that they should be selling new tech. They probably realized right away that they made a mistake with the 2013 Mac Pro design. Instead of wasting time adding new tech to it, they are working on the new design. It takes some time to do that.
 
So basically Apple says that
-They screwed up with last Mac Pro design (can't innovate....blah blah)
-They've noticed now that customers were left in the cold
-NOW, after years of customers complaining, they'll start to think about something new and not completely closed.
All of the above without asking permission to all Apple's pundits and shills in here. Those who spent years justifying every single fart coming out from Apple's top management's ass.
Great.
 
'With regards to the Mac Pro, we are in the process of what we call “completely rethinking the Mac Pro”.'

Thrilled about the possibilities here. But I hope the rethinking doesn't result in another radical, but flawed, design. For me personally, an updated cheese grater cMP would be better than something "groundbreaking" like the nMP.
 
Kind of like the current design, wonder if they will keep it similar.
 
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So basically Apple says that
-They screwed up with last Mac Pro design (can't innovate....blah blah)
-They've noticed now that customers were left in the cold
-NOW, after years of customers complaining, they'll start to think about something new and not completely closed.
All of the above without asking permission to all Apple's pundits and shills in here. Those who spent years justifying every single fart coming out from Apple's top management's ass.
Great.
Not sure where your beef is.
 
Maybe all the "Pros" can quite their kvetching :rolleyes:

Actually news today really wasn't great. The only real news was a price drop for existing mac pro (it's still too expensive).

They admitted tash can was bad design. Anyone with trash can mac pro has been saying that for years. Still no real date for redesign mac pro.
 
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