I’m never going to purchase a GM vehicle, so not an issue for me. However if they want to shoot themselves in the foot for people who do, go for it! 😉
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Apple Says CarPlay Now Available in Over 800 Vehicle Models as GM Plans to Phase Out Support in EVs
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I may not no much about marketing, but I’m pretty confident that there are many more people who will not buy a GM product because they don’t offer CarPlay than there are people who will buy a GM product because they don’t offer CarPlay. No question GM will loose market share by doing this. I guess the question is will they save enough money by removing this option from their products to pay for the amount of customers they will loose. Given that Apple customers tend to be a more premium market and pretty brand loyal, hard to see how GM is doing itself a favor.
Anyhow, I’ve owned a couple GM cars in the past, but for this future, I won’t even bother looking at anything that doesn’t have CarPlay.
Anyhow, I’ve owned a couple GM cars in the past, but for this future, I won’t even bother looking at anything that doesn’t have CarPlay.
I'm not wrong. Apple raked in $80B on "Services", aka SUBSCRIPTIONS, last year. Services revenue is Apple's big bright spot these days. I've made it clear in several of my comments that I'm talking about App Store subscriptions, which Apple controls 100%. Apple might not be selling most of its first party software as a subscription, but they have aggressively pushed the subscription model through the App Store. They are the largest purveyor of subscription software on the planet.
Car Buyers Expected to Pay Extra $135 Monthly for Subscriptions: GM
New car buyers may be expected to pay as much as $135 per month on additional subscription-based features in the future, says General Motors.
www.thedrive.com
The same kind of people who "think" customers are willing to pay $135 a month for subscriptions working in that company. This tells us something, doesn't it?
Outlining GM's Subscription Business Roadmap
General Motors Co (NYSE: GM) sees its in-car subscription services to generate $2 billion in revenue in 2021 and will reach $25 billion by the end of the decade. The feat will help the automaker reach the scales of Netflix Inc (NASDAQ: NFLX), Peloton Interactive Inc (NASDAQ: PTON), and Spotify...
finance.yahoo.com
This tells everyone why they are doing this and I frankly believe they are shooting themselves in the head.
You will own nothing and like it. That is what the subscriptionists keep drilling into us.
As someone once said, a bank is just an IT company that specialises in finance. As such, car manufacturers are just hosts for Apple Carplay that allow you to get from A to B. Many drivers are asking about Car Play before they talk about miles per gallon. It's like selling a computer that can only run Linux. No matter how good the computer is, you are just not going to buy it.
Do they make run flats for motorcycles?I am an excellent driver. 20 years in Alaska will do that to you
And yes, I've had a blow out at speed - on a motorcycle.
"I'm an excellent driver". Thought I was too - but there is always something out there that can make you re-think that. If you think that you're so good that you won't consider driver aids, good job I'll never find myself in a car with you, or hopefully even on the same road as you.
I think they'll do a 180 and walk this back by the time the EVs start rolling out. If not, they're stupid AF.
Carplay was the most-requested extra for Teslas until Apple Music streaming became available last year
it’s unfortunate that we can’t have both, mainly because Carplay is free and uses my phone, while Apple Music is a subscription that also requires the Tesla extra-cost connectivity and reliable internet - the latter not guaranteed for regional travel in Australia
the streaming has been a pleasant surprise because it’s even more music than I had before and I’m accessing everything that’s on my Mac at home as well [iTunes Match is a great thing]
"Excellent" doesn't mean "perfect". I don't strive for perfection...in anything.
Simple rules for being an excellent driver:
- Pay attention.
- Slow down.
- Don't be stupid.
- Assume all other drivers violate these rules, simultaneously, all of the time.
- Anticipate and drive accordingly.
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My concern is to when they’re going to stop supporting this in their current lineup that does work with CarPlay & Android Auto. Will my 6 year old Impala get an OTA update and suddenly remove CarPlay? I mean, it’s paid off. I have the Title. But updates still get pushed out. I highly doubt they would, but I could see it brought up in one of those board meetings 😆
Does you six year old Impala actually get OTA updates? Most older vehicles you have to actually visit a dealership to upgrade the software or use a USB to update it.
Yup! I've turned the auto-updating off in the head unit's settings, but theoretically, yeah it could just continue to get updates. There was an update just recently over this last Winter.
FWIW, some of the recent updates I've seen with mine have helped resolve some of my iPhone's connection issues.
Such a boneheaded move by GM, I was literally on the mailing list for info about the new Chevy Equinox EV. Then I heard this news. I’d rather spend another $6k than deal with a car that has no CarPlay support.
I hadn’t looked a GM product my entire life and I guess I won’t ever again.
I hadn’t looked a GM product my entire life and I guess I won’t ever again.
A google account for my car? I have been complaining here more about the use of Google built-in than I have about GM options to not support CarPlay with it due to the likely tracking.
For some reason I never thought about the Google account. I don’t have one now. I never had one. And I sure won’t create one to drive my car.
😂 Get over myself? You continue to mention things that aren't related, or have any bearing on the conversation. I'm sorry, but as long as you continue to be wrong, I'm going to continue to point it out. I get that you don't like having someone counter you when you are wrong, but it's not "nasty" to have that conversation.
You are right in in thinking manufactures may try to charge you rent to use hardware already installed in your vehicle, BMW, GM, and Ford have at least considered it and even tried it in some cases, but to think that is a good thing or to defend it, is not good. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE THAT HARDWARE FOR FREE. Having spent thirty years in manufacturing/sales I know how this works.
Is "everyone is just speculating here" or are we paying attention to the market?
I think this is different in that nearly all of GM's fleet of cars, trucks, and SUV's have supported CarPlay for many years now. Tesla hasn't ever. Taking something away as opposed to never including it to begin with is not the same comparison...
I can't think of another person who could care less what his customers think than Elon.
You covered both of my thoughts.
1. It's a driver issue not a vehicle issue
2. I don't think I would want the features either. I've been without for 34 years. What if these things fail you. I'd rather just be in control and pay attention all the time.
EDIT I do like the backup cam though.