Sucks to see GM take that stance - I was seriously considering the Blazer or Equinox EV once they dropped this fall/next spring but without CarPlay, it’s seriously a non-starter
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Apple Says CarPlay Now Available in Over 800 Vehicle Models as GM Plans to Phase Out Support in EVs
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Meaning if you want the full integrated experience on GM’s new infotainment system powered by Google, you MUST have an Android phone……..
No thanks GM, you don’t get to dictate what phones are needed to get the full experience.
Speak for yourself. It's not the most important factor for me - enough interior space, good fuel efficiency, halfway intelligent design and comfortable seats are my main points. But next up is usability and that includes car play. I've been burned by idiotic car entertainment systems before. A friend once bet me that I couldn't find a way to deactivate an already started navigation in a Renault. After trying for 20 minutes, I had to give up...
There's enough cars that check all my main points and offer carplay, so no need to get something from GM.
I agree. People have mistakenly forgot bluetooth still exist. I personally never had issues connecting any of my devices to a vehicle... I once tried with a smartwatch.
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My next car will be an EV, and it would annoy me no end to have a feature in my car that GM specifically wanted me NOT to have. After 12 years in the Apple ecosystem there's no way I would buy an Android phone just for GM's feature. I guess the market will tell if GM's move is a good one.
Don't have, don't miss, don't care.
Driven quite a lot with vehicles that had CarPlay. Too much hassle to use, onboard systems far easier and better integrated.
Driven quite a lot with vehicles that had CarPlay. Too much hassle to use, onboard systems far easier and better integrated.
This was my exact thought, but I think it will be the other way. The ones still iffy on EV don't need another reason to not want a certain one.
Didn't GM see this play out at Toyota already?
It's as if they operate in their own little world. One where they think people will buy their crap because they slap Americana all over ads.
It's as if they operate in their own little world. One where they think people will buy their crap because they slap Americana all over ads.
If GM wants to build "...a "holistically integrated" operating system with a "much-improved navigation and charging experience..." by all means go for it. Just make sure I can run CarPlay on top of that, and I'm good.
CarPlay is not the most important factor for me in choosing a vehicle, but if other criteria is equal (like performance), CarPlay would be a deciding factor for sure.
CarPlay is not the most important factor for me in choosing a vehicle, but if other criteria is equal (like performance), CarPlay would be a deciding factor for sure.
I really wish the model list on Apple's website would specify which vehicles come with Wireless CarPlay.
Also annoyed at how long the rollout for Apple Car Keys has taken. So far it's just BMW (of course not the X1 or X3 I could afford) and a few Hyundai/Kia models. Hopefully 2024 brings a wider release along with next gen CarPlay.
Also annoyed at how long the rollout for Apple Car Keys has taken. So far it's just BMW (of course not the X1 or X3 I could afford) and a few Hyundai/Kia models. Hopefully 2024 brings a wider release along with next gen CarPlay.
I wouldn't even entertain buying a car without CarPlay now. Seem's strange for a manufacturer to cease support for it. I don't have any plans to buy a GM origin car though as its only Opel/Vauxhall here in Europe.
I stopped buying GM vehicles years ago. This just gives me another reason to not buy one.
But many of the declarations on this forum about the subject are simply knee-jerk outrage responses that won’t likely materialize in reality. It’s the same kind of reaction when we are told by users that certain mobile carriers, certain products from certain manufacturers, etc. are pieces of crap. AT&T is a prime example. The carrier is castigated, denigrated, dismissed, libeled without letup by tech blog denizens, yet AT&T mobile continues to add subscribers, not lose them.
I promise you it isn't about a big check from Google as much as it is about being able to control and manage the new platform to create new revenue streams via subscription. Soon, you will be forced to "rent" or subscribe to what are generally accepted luxury features in current vehicles. Since Apple controls CarPlay, GM wants an avenue to charge you big bucks for simple, desirable features. That's all. This will be more common as time goes by.
"Your air conditioner provides basic cooling down to 75 degrees. Should you want cooler air, simply subscribe to GM's 'ICE Package' and have the ability to turn the thermostat as low as you wish. Daily, monthly, and annual plans are available."
This is a classic corporate tactic. Any time a major change is made, they take it as an opportunity to say "this is the new way to do it." Teslas don't have CarPlay, so they are essentially lying to the consumer and saying "electric cars don't have CarPlay, look at the others, this is just how it is."
We stopped buying GM for a very good reason: a cracked block very soon after the warranty expired - a clear design or casting defect, and a catastrophic failure with no interest from the manufacturer.
We are not going to resume buying GM product, regardless of their CarPlay support.
We are not going to resume buying GM product, regardless of their CarPlay support.
I have no interest in buying anything GM, and this solidifies it.
That carplay photo is from a VW, by the way.
That carplay photo is from a VW, by the way.
I cannot see how this will not backfire on GM.
On the other hand, Apple does need to integrate better with the car, especially with electric vehicles to navigate charge points, recommend optimal speed. The current systems are workarounds and CarPlay very much feels like an add-on to a car, instead of being part of the car.
(I know something is in the works, but there should be a happy medium between a phone on a bigger screen, and fully taking over the car software).
On the other hand, Apple does need to integrate better with the car, especially with electric vehicles to navigate charge points, recommend optimal speed. The current systems are workarounds and CarPlay very much feels like an add-on to a car, instead of being part of the car.
(I know something is in the works, but there should be a happy medium between a phone on a bigger screen, and fully taking over the car software).
It may be daft, but there are plenty of people for whom this could be a main differentiator, including me. And in the end, GM wants to sell cars even to daft people.
Best case scenario - the interface they design is the best ever and works perfectly with iphone, with or without an additional app. Result - dealerships have to spend all their time explaining how it is "just as good" as the guy across the street (once you do this and this and this). It's not a good look and it doesn't help sell cars.
Check out the wireless CarPlay adapters on Amazon. I've been using the Carlinkit Mini on my Genesis for 3 years and it works great most of the time. (I'd say maybe about 10% of the time it won't connect, but simply re-plugging it into USB will fix it.) It's awesome for when you're hopping in the car for short trips and don't want to pull out your phone.agreed, I just want the wireless versionfor my car model and make its the 2023 model so I will have to get it later on
Probably the best candidates are vehicles where CarPlay is able to project navigation directions in the instrument cluster/heads up display. Those are already interacting with the car's communication network in some way. I know the Ford Mustang Mach-E also interacts with Apple CarPlay Maps to route along charging stations
Ya, I was looking at them as there still aren't a ton of electric SUVs to choose from. Hopefully GM's stance doesn't also affect the upcoming Honda Prolouge/Acura ZDX EVs since they will also be riding on GM's platform.
Well for the 2025 model year maybe. The Blazer and Equinox EVs will be on dealer lots by the end of this year.
Android Auto and CarPlay are both going away for a fully integrated system. They want users to pay a subscription service for access to the online features of the infotainment systems.
GM not including CarPlay in their EVs is even worse because GM models are among the relatively few that qualify for the new $7500 tax credit.