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GM doubled down on the plans in an interview with The Verge last week, saying it is building a "holistically integrated" operating system with a "much-improved navigation and charging experience for future EV owners."
Meaning if you want the full integrated experience on GM’s new infotainment system powered by Google, you MUST have an Android phone……..


No thanks GM, you don’t get to dictate what phones are needed to get the full experience.
 
My 2015 GMC Canyon doesn't have CarPlay and I don't really miss it. I've driven/rented loads of cars with it, connected my phone etc. and it's nice to have, but I have my iPhone on a dash mount and frankly am not limited by the CarPlay UI.

It's certainly not a must-have and if you're daft enough to base the purchase of a vehicle on whether or not it has CarPlay, well I guess you can just be daft. It's about the least important factor when making a vehicle decision.
Speak for yourself. It's not the most important factor for me - enough interior space, good fuel efficiency, halfway intelligent design and comfortable seats are my main points. But next up is usability and that includes car play. I've been burned by idiotic car entertainment systems before. A friend once bet me that I couldn't find a way to deactivate an already started navigation in a Renault. After trying for 20 minutes, I had to give up...

There's enough cars that check all my main points and offer carplay, so no need to get something from GM.
 
My 2015 GMC Canyon doesn't have CarPlay and I don't really miss it. I've driven/rented loads of cars with it, connected my phone etc. and it's nice to have, but I have my iPhone on a dash mount and frankly am not limited by the CarPlay UI.

It's certainly not a must-have and if you're daft enough to base the purchase of a vehicle on whether or not it has CarPlay, well I guess you can just be daft. It's about the least important factor when making a vehicle decision.
I agree. People have mistakenly forgot bluetooth still exist. I personally never had issues connecting any of my devices to a vehicle... I once tried with a smartwatch.
 
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My next car will be an EV, and it would annoy me no end to have a feature in my car that GM specifically wanted me NOT to have. After 12 years in the Apple ecosystem there's no way I would buy an Android phone just for GM's feature. I guess the market will tell if GM's move is a good one.
 
Well s***. There goes my plan of buying a Ford in the future. No way would I buy a car that uses a Google.

I guess GM knows where it’s bread is buttered, and most of their customers have Android.
 
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If GM wants to build "...a "holistically integrated" operating system with a "much-improved navigation and charging experience..." by all means go for it. Just make sure I can run CarPlay on top of that, and I'm good.

CarPlay is not the most important factor for me in choosing a vehicle, but if other criteria is equal (like performance), CarPlay would be a deciding factor for sure.
 
I really wish the model list on Apple's website would specify which vehicles come with Wireless CarPlay.

Also annoyed at how long the rollout for Apple Car Keys has taken. So far it's just BMW (of course not the X1 or X3 I could afford) and a few Hyundai/Kia models. Hopefully 2024 brings a wider release along with next gen CarPlay.
 
The least important part of the decision for you. No one is “daft” for having different priorities when purchasing a vehicle.
But many of the declarations on this forum about the subject are simply knee-jerk outrage responses that won’t likely materialize in reality. It’s the same kind of reaction when we are told by users that certain mobile carriers, certain products from certain manufacturers, etc. are pieces of crap. AT&T is a prime example. The carrier is castigated, denigrated, dismissed, libeled without letup by tech blog denizens, yet AT&T mobile continues to add subscribers, not lose them.
 
I have to believe that close to 90% of people buying expensive EV’s in the US are also using iPhones. They must be getting an awfully big check from Google to be doing this.
I promise you it isn't about a big check from Google as much as it is about being able to control and manage the new platform to create new revenue streams via subscription. Soon, you will be forced to "rent" or subscribe to what are generally accepted luxury features in current vehicles. Since Apple controls CarPlay, GM wants an avenue to charge you big bucks for simple, desirable features. That's all. This will be more common as time goes by.

"Your air conditioner provides basic cooling down to 75 degrees. Should you want cooler air, simply subscribe to GM's 'ICE Package' and have the ability to turn the thermostat as low as you wish. Daily, monthly, and annual plans are available."
 
I have to believe that close to 90% of people buying expensive EV’s in the US are also using iPhones. They must be getting an awfully big check from Google to be doing this.

This is a classic corporate tactic. Any time a major change is made, they take it as an opportunity to say "this is the new way to do it." Teslas don't have CarPlay, so they are essentially lying to the consumer and saying "electric cars don't have CarPlay, look at the others, this is just how it is."
 
I have no interest in buying anything GM, and this solidifies it.

That carplay photo is from a VW, by the way.
 
I cannot see how this will not backfire on GM.

On the other hand, Apple does need to integrate better with the car, especially with electric vehicles to navigate charge points, recommend optimal speed. The current systems are workarounds and CarPlay very much feels like an add-on to a car, instead of being part of the car.

(I know something is in the works, but there should be a happy medium between a phone on a bigger screen, and fully taking over the car software).
 
My 2015 GMC Canyon doesn't have CarPlay and I don't really miss it. I've driven/rented loads of cars with it, connected my phone etc. and it's nice to have, but I have my iPhone on a dash mount and frankly am not limited by the CarPlay UI.

It's certainly not a must-have and if you're daft enough to base the purchase of a vehicle on whether or not it has CarPlay, well I guess you can just be daft. It's about the least important factor when making a vehicle decision.
It may be daft, but there are plenty of people for whom this could be a main differentiator, including me. And in the end, GM wants to sell cars even to daft people.
 
Best case scenario - the interface they design is the best ever and works perfectly with iphone, with or without an additional app. Result - dealerships have to spend all their time explaining how it is "just as good" as the guy across the street (once you do this and this and this). It's not a good look and it doesn't help sell cars.
 
agreed, I just want the wireless version :) for my car model and make its the 2023 model so I will have to get it later on :)
Check out the wireless CarPlay adapters on Amazon. I've been using the Carlinkit Mini on my Genesis for 3 years and it works great most of the time. (I'd say maybe about 10% of the time it won't connect, but simply re-plugging it into USB will fix it.) It's awesome for when you're hopping in the car for short trips and don't want to pull out your phone.

I love the wireless CarPlay in my car. I wonder if us 'regular' CarPlay users will get an upgraded experience when the next gen CarPlay is introduced later this year?

Obviously I'm not expecting the next-gen features such as climate controls, etc. but it would be nice if we had a bit of a upgrade - maybe even basic widgets, etc. 🤞
Probably the best candidates are vehicles where CarPlay is able to project navigation directions in the instrument cluster/heads up display. Those are already interacting with the car's communication network in some way. I know the Ford Mustang Mach-E also interacts with Apple CarPlay Maps to route along charging stations

Sucks to see GM take that stance - I was seriously considering the Blazer or Equinox EV once they dropped this fall/next spring but without CarPlay, it’s seriously a non-starter
Ya, I was looking at them as there still aren't a ton of electric SUVs to choose from. Hopefully GM's stance doesn't also affect the upcoming Honda Prolouge/Acura ZDX EVs since they will also be riding on GM's platform.

There’s plenty of time for GM to rethink this.
Well for the 2025 model year maybe. The Blazer and Equinox EVs will be on dealer lots by the end of this year.
 
Meaning if you want the full integrated experience on GM’s new infotainment system powered by Google, you MUST have an Android phone……..


No thanks GM, you don’t get to dictate what phones are needed to get the full experience.
Android Auto and CarPlay are both going away for a fully integrated system. They want users to pay a subscription service for access to the online features of the infotainment systems.
 
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