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Realistically speaking, same things could be, and have been said about previous versions of iOS, so that's more or less neither here nor there.

Let's see what version people would use if they had the choice including all, then.

My iPhone 6 would be back to 9.3 for sure.
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iOS6 - lovely ( except some of the icons and game centre).

It sure was. I still have it on my 4S and it's refreshing to use an iOS without every other input blocked.
 
I have to admit, iOS 11 isn't bad but it's utterly butchered my 6S's responsiveness. When I'm typing quickly I can sometimes have my phone lag 3 letters behind. Switching between apps, just general usage is far less responsive.

Not impressed with this update, it doesn't really do anything differently in reality from iOS 11, except run slower.
 
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What they mean is their constant shoving of update messages in your face has paid off...

This caught my mum out with her iPad Pro, just as well all her apps still worked after otherwise that would DEFINITELY have lost them an angry customer.

I do actually wonder if it’s legal the way Apple constantly shove an update in your face?
 
What sort of problems with iPhone 7? I'm in the same situation, battery drain is ridiculous, and there is no way I'm updating to iOS 11.
Compared to my iPhone 5s, it drops a lot of calls, has worse reception (on Verizon), I keep getting images with corrupted metadata that can't be exported whenever I use burst mode, and I can't export my health data (but I can't on my iPhone 5s either). The main issue is connectivity—it's just bad at making phone calls, drops calls, and is often so crackly I can't be understood or understand the person I'm talking to. When I turn on Verizion Wi-Fi calling it will switch back and forth between that and regular mode and drops calls when it switches, so I've just left it off.
 
I had a similar experience with a 4s. Worked great with iOS7 but iOS8 killed it. Seemed to get a little better with 9 but still really slow. I type really slowly and Safari can't even keep up with me. Two updates is the most I will do now, if that.

It's a shame that we have to experience/endure a horrible upgrade in order to learn that going beyond 2+ the original version is risky. My iPhone 4 (now primarily a music jukebox) sure looks pretty on iOS 7 but it's nowhere near as fluid as iOS 6. There is no way I'm upgrading my iPhone 6 to iOS 11 (10.3.3 FTW!), despite the new features and security fixes. I can even tell this device performs less smoothly than iOS 9. When the time is right, I'll just buy a more modern iPhone.

There's nothing like getting accustom to smooth, fluid behavior for a whole year or more, only to have it taken away by a non-reversible update. This is why users complain about a ruined experience, even if they can't readily quantify it.
 
I installed it on my iPhone 6. I'm switching back to an old iPhone 5 now because my phone is now officially ruined, and I want the 4" screen again anyway. Found out the hard way that the lag complaints are real.

It’s not a black-or-white situation. My gf has iOS 11 on her iPhone 6, without any lag issues. So a closer look at your particular device is needed. Have you tried a clean install?
 
Two months after Oreo was released and it was running on less than 1% of all Android devices. I'm not sure what the latest number is some several weeks later, but I doubt it is above 2%.

I think Apple can be sufficiently smug and satisfied at how successfully the iOS 11 roll out is going.
That have to add Oreo, Nougat, Marshmallow, and a portion of Lollipop to get to 58% Android active market share. The most common version is Marshmallow at 31% and then two versions of Lollipop.. but that means devs are targeting 3-4 yo devices and features. Ouch. Worse the majority of devices being sold now are barely “iPhone 6” class. The cool Pixels, Nexus, Galaxy 7 & 8 are only like single digit percentage of the install base. It’s like the PC market where everyone is on new computers with Celerons and Pentiums with integrated graphics in 2017.
 
I installed it on my iPhone 6. I'm switching back to an old iPhone 5 now because my phone is now officially ruined, and I want the 4" screen again anyway. Found out the hard way that the lag complaints are real.

I do agree with the 4” screen size. Love my SE!
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Can't believe some people still trust Apple on the iOS update.

Is everyone supposed to think alike? Just wondering.

iOS is getting more advanced with each release. Kudos to Apple for doing as well as they have been.
 
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It's a shame that we have to experience/endure a horrible upgrade in order to learn that going beyond 2+ the original version is risky. My iPhone 4 (now primarily a music jukebox) sure looks pretty on iOS 7 but it's nowhere near as fluid as iOS 6. There is no way I'm upgrading my iPhone 6 to iOS 11 (10.3.3 FTW!), despite the new features and security fixes. I can even tell this device performs less smoothly than iOS 9. When the time is right, I'll just buy a more modern iPhone.

There's nothing like getting accustom to smooth, fluid behavior for a whole year or more, only to have it taken away by a non-reversible update. This is why users complain about a ruined experience, even if they can't readily quantify it.
I think the iOS 11 is not really the problem. I put it on my old iPhone 6+ and it was ok. What the 6+ lacked was the better network stack. I could immediately tell that with my hue lights. The 6 would always take 2-3 seconds to connect where the 8 is immediately there. Now imagine that in every new iOS version they bolt more “online things” in and there’s your lag compounded by the older network stack to initiate it.

The “music” app is the biggest fail at adding the Internet kitchen sink. It has one job to open and push “play” and abjectly fails at it. If I used synced playlists instead of Apple Music I would be pissed because it’s unusable as a “music player” with songs right on the device. It’s equally true on an iPhone 8 as a 6.
 
It's a shame that we have to experience/endure a horrible upgrade in order to learn that going beyond 2+ the original version is risky. My iPhone 4 (now primarily a music jukebox) sure looks pretty on iOS 7 but it's nowhere near as fluid as iOS 6. There is no way I'm upgrading my iPhone 6 to iOS 11 (10.3.3 FTW!), despite the new features and security fixes. I can even tell this device performs less smoothly than iOS 9. When the time is right, I'll just buy a more modern iPhone.

There's nothing like getting accustom to smooth, fluid behavior for a whole year or more, only to have it taken away by a non-reversible update. This is why users complain about a ruined experience, even if they can't readily quantify it.

Your 4 works with ios7?? Mine was rendered COMPLETELY useless from being so slow and poorly responsive. Three year old phone rendered completely useless thanks to Apple’s Chinese finger trap update routine.

Makes me laugh every time I hear an Apple officer brag proudly about user adoption rate when updates are probably 5% comprised of loyal satisfied customers and 95% comprised of a mix of users who decided to finally update and stayed, plus users who wish they didn’t update and are trapped.

Apple fooled me once with ios7, fooled me twice with ios11’s podcast app. I’ll investigate long and hard before next update.
 
Your 4 works with ios7?? Mine was rendered COMPLETELY useless from being so slow and poorly responsive. Three year old phone rendered completely useless thanks to Apple’s Chinese finger trap update routine.

Makes me laugh every time I hear an Apple officer brag proudly about user adoption rate when updates are probably 5% comprised of loyal satisfied customers and 95% comprised of a mix of users who decided to finally update and stayed, plus users who wish they didn’t update and are trapped.

Apple fooled me once with ios7, fooled me twice with ios11’s podcast app. I’ll investigate long and hard before next update.

I still remember iOS7. Since then I've been very cautious on the major release of iOS.
 
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In once case I have contacted the developer and he said an update was pending in the next few weeks--that was years ago and the update never came. Since it is abandonware at this point I have asked him to give or sell me the source code but he will not. I have also offered to pay the developer to update it himself but he is not interested.

In a second case I offered to pay the developer to update but he does construction work now and told me he basically has no interest in it any more.

I did not know about the loss of the incremental improvement path. Obviously time for me to move on.
Apple tries the make the changes between OS versions “less” painful. So if devs were making changes as they went they could be almost on track. But a lot of early, cool iOS 7 era apps just stayed stuck at that level and “just barely” updated. So now they’d have to jump straight to iOS 11 apps and all the “pull forward” tools are long since removed.

There’s some good money in some of the brands. I have a BillTracker app that just barely made the cut because two years ago the dev moved it to iOS 8 and 64-bit. But the iPad version of the app missed the cut. Of course stable companies all want revenue streams and iOS buyers notoriously don’t like paying for new versions.
 
Glad you can ignore the nags and delete the actual update file. Still running iOS 10 on my 6S Plus and Sierra on my MBP thank you very much.

I used to be first in line to upgrade, now i wait till .3 updates at least because the mantra "ship now, fix later" is increasingly popular in the industry. And i don't have time for troubleshooting and 'walkarounds'

I updated my iPad Air 2 though since i rarely use it, hence a useful guinea pig. That has not been fun, bugs and app crashes galore.
 
Wish I hadn't upgraded my girlfriend's 6S to iOS 11 it's truly awful on older devices. It's OK on my iPhone 8+ but far from perfect. 2017 has been the worst software year in a decade for Apple.
 
I think the iOS 11 is not really the problem. I put it on my old iPhone 6+ and it was ok. What the 6+ lacked was the better network stack. I could immediately tell that with my hue lights. The 6 would always take 2-3 seconds to connect where the 8 is immediately there. Now imagine that in every new iOS version they bolt more “online things” in and there’s your lag compounded by the older network stack to initiate it.

The “music” app is the biggest fail at adding the Internet kitchen sink. It has one job to open and push “play” and abjectly fails at it. If I used synced playlists instead of Apple Music I would be pissed because it’s unusable as a “music player” with songs right on the device. It’s equally true on an iPhone 8 as a 6.

Funny, I have no problem with hue lights. It's smooth. The only time there is an issue is when the app has been ejected from memory and needs reloading (yep, that 1Gb issue).

As for the control center music player, it's just horrible. It often forgets what it was last playing (typically a podcast) so it decides to play some random music... sometimes with a 3 second lag whilst thinking about. The transport has trouble skipping songs which are not downloaded but appear in a playlist. That's the kind of crap behavior I've noticed in iOS 10 which wasn't there before.
 
Your 4 works with ios7?? Mine was rendered COMPLETELY useless from being so slow and poorly responsive. Three year old phone rendered completely useless thanks to Apple’s Chinese finger trap update routine.

That's why it's just a music jukebox. I wouldn't be able to tolerate the lag if it was more daily driver.

Stunningly beautiful hardware now marred by its struggling software. :-/
 
Compared to my iPhone 5s, it drops a lot of calls, has worse reception (on Verizon), I keep getting images with corrupted metadata that can't be exported whenever I use burst mode, and I can't export my health data (but I can't on my iPhone 5s either). The main issue is connectivity—it's just bad at making phone calls, drops calls, and is often so crackly I can't be understood or understand the person I'm talking to. When I turn on Verizion Wi-Fi calling it will switch back and forth between that and regular mode and drops calls when it switches, so I've just left it off.
Weird, haven't had those type of issues with a couple of iPhone 7 devices (on Verizon) that I've been dealing with through iOS 10 and 11.
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Why is there no mention of the apparent problems with iOS 11.2. I got this from the official iPhone Stocks App:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/12/05/apple-ios-11-2-problems-ios-11-problem-iphone-battery-life/
Potentially because there are articles like that for a lot of releases, and in most cases they aren't dealing with truly widespread issues.
 
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