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Nah, also when People make a bit longer Phone calls, or FaceTime calls with Apples own Apps, and also while charging.

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Wow, thanks for that.

I don’t dismiss that it’s happening, but my experience has been positive, both mine and my partners iPhone 15 Pro Max 256GB arrived on the 23rd, setup as new. We have not had a single issue yet, touch wood, we have even been in Rhodes for the last week and I usually get a warning too hot message when on holiday at least 2/3 times. Nothing with this phone.
I’ve setup apps from scratch and downloaded data such as all my photos, videos in Netflix, Disney, Prime, Spotify audio and video podcasts. I’m running two SIMs on 5G and using only mobile data, as WiFi is shocking at the hotel.

I do think it’s a shame that new releases can’t choose to have the previous OS version, as it would be good for comparison when these issues arise as it could just be an OS issue. I have had new release devices with issues before and it is frustrating.
 
Man, the amount of confident simplistic reasoning in this thread is both hilarious and depressing.

I've never seen anything like it. I think it's some sort of state sponsored troll raid. China is undergoing a nationalistic uproar against Apple's popularity in the wake of Huawei's failures. You see these kinds of posts occasionally by loonies but not anything as intense and widespread as this.

Every thread about this issue is full of it. Reddit is full of it.
 
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Are you going to answer my question? How is there insufficient cooling when the phone runs essentially no hotter than last year's phone?
Yes. On your 15 Pro, do an objective CPU/GPU benchmark test before, then after Apple’s fix. And then do it again every time Apple implements a software update. If the scores trend down, the phone is being throttled because of insufficient cooling.
 
Yes. On your 15 Pro, do an objective CPU/GPU benchmark test before, then after Apple’s fix. And then do it again every time Apple implements a software update. If the scores trend down, the phone is being throttled because of insufficient cooling.

No no, you said there's insufficient cooling. But you can run a stress test on a 15 Pro and a 14 Pro right now, with no software updates, and find neither is significantly hotter than the other.

So explain your claim about how there's insufficient cooling. Stop dodging the question, or stop making the claim.
 
I've never seen anything like it. I think it's some sort of state sponsored troll raid. China is undergoing a nationalistic uproar against Apple's popularity in the wake of Huawei's failures. You see these kinds of posts occasionally by loonies but not anything as intense and widespread as this.

Every thread about this issue is full of it. Reddit is full of it.
Your posts in this thread are actually part of what I was referring to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Glad they’re jumping on this. Did no one test these apps before release?
The bug could have creeped into a late build of iOS 17. Apple’s software is getting more and more buggy. Admittedly the code is getting increasingly complex, but there must surely be a way to further improve code quality.
 
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Yeah, like Apple ever acknowledged when the messed up… so, did they say when can we have our free anti-heat bumpers? :D
 
How is the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max overheating not a hardware issue? It's the A17 Pro chip that's generating the heat, is it not? If the A17 Pro chip is not hardware, then what is it? It's certainly not software.
As has been said it could easily be a software issue as Apple claims. If it were a hardware issue, every 15 Pro Max with the same hardware would experience that same issue. My 15 Pro Max has remained noticeably cooler to touch than the 14 Pro Max. I don’t use any of the apps Apple mentioned either, so I’m inclined to believe Apple on this one.
 
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Your posts in this thread are actually part of what I was referring to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Please explain. Or are you also part of the brigade of people making claims and refusing to actually engage?

What have I said about the technology that leads you to that conclusion, specifically? Can't wait for this.
 
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As has been said it could easily be a software issue as Apple claims. If it were a hardware issue, every 15 Pro Max with the same hardware would experience that same issue.
There are manufacturing tolerances, and different copies of the same SoC may be running hotter or cooler. There may well be a manufacturing and/or QC and/or hardware design issue, in addition to software issues. Only Apple will really know.
 
The entire frame (the metal part around the phone) is titanium. Only the "substructure" (the "interior" portion of the chassis to which the components are fastened) is aluminum. This has been verified independently as well...

The entire frame (the metal part around the phone) is titanium. Only the "substructure" (the "interior" portion of the chassis to which the components are fastened) is aluminum. This has been verified independently as well...
I have a question, what material is the internal frame of iPhone 14 and 13 made of? I always thought it was aluminum too
 
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It’s not the hardware, it’s the software and our lack of QC. We couldn’t be bothered to test our flagship product with some of the most common apps on the planet. That’s what our users are for.
lol right…it’s now apples responsibility to test instagram so all those wanna be influencers are satisfied
 
I would like if there was a ‘low heat’ mode where whatever needs throttling is throttled but the phone /never/ heats up or dims the screen.
In warm places phone dimming the screen so often renders it nearly useless. I don’t care how smoothly or fast the apps run, I can’t use them if I can’t see the screen 🤷‍♂️
 
But the frame isn’t directly connected to the SoC or battery. Those numbers are scientific, but theoretical.
With war scars from both 15- and 16-inch MacBook i9, I’ve lived through Apple thermal issues.
But the frame isn’t directly connected to the SoC or battery. Those numbers are scientific, but theoretical.
With war scars from both 15- and 16-inch MacBook i9, I’ve lived through Apple thermal issues.
I want to know a question, is the internal frame of iPhone 14Pro and 13Pro aluminum or steel?This answer is very important to me
 
NEWS AT 9: In a world’s first breakthrough, Apple defies physics by creating a new form of Titanium that is as thermally conductive as Stainless Steel. Until Apple’s new iTit (TM) was introduced, Titanium had roughly half the thermal conductivity compared to a piece of stainless steel with the same cross sectional area.

Moreover Apple was able to achieve this physics defying feat of dissipating with titanium walls only 70% the thickness of the previous steel frame and amazingly has managed all this while using a chip 10% more power consuming than the previous model. Certain Nobel prize incoming for the material scientists that worked on this truly incredible device.


I’m a bit of a high power flashlight enthusiast and while titanium is a popular body material due to its weight / strength ratio, its hideous thermal performance means that heavy copper inserts are basically a must, offsetting much of the the weight advantage and creating a conductive mass in which to sinc and dissipate thermal energy.

If iPhone had introduced a vapour chamber I could believe that performance is similar to the prior model, but as it is, thinner walls, combined with the phone’s low overall mass and much poorer conductivity it’s clear that throttling will be more difficult to mitigate.
 
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How is the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max overheating not a hardware issue? It's the A17 Pro chip that's generating the heat, is it not?
If you found your car to be out of gas every other morning you'd probably ask yourself why Mr. Misbehaving App is driving your car around at night. You could just fill the tank more often or hide the keys but even though the car tires are wearing out much faster due to the extra mileage and the check engine light is on the real issue isn't with the car. It's Mr. Misbehaving App driving your car around recklessly for no good reason.
 
No no, you said there's insufficient cooling. But you can run a stress test on a 15 Pro and a 14 Pro right now, with no software updates, and find neither is significantly hotter than the other.

So explain your claim about how there's insufficient cooling. Stop dodging the question, or stop making the claim.
What I said is if there is insufficient cooling, there would be throttling. One example is an Nvidia video card I have.

The manufacturer has software that allows you to overclock the GPU. If it gets to a certain temperature, the speed of the GPU will be throttled.

I never said the 15 Pro runs hotter than 14 Pro. Apparently Apple thinks the 15 Pro runs too hot or they would not be coming out with a fix, which will probably throttle the processor.
 
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