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Apple and their Mr. Bean doesn't care for good products and their customers anymore.
Lowering the production costs and revenue maximization is all they really care for.
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Apple Says iPhone 15 Pro's Titanium Frame Does Not Contribute to Overheating Issue
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Apple and their Mr. Bean doesn't care for good products and their customers anymore.
Lowering the production costs and revenue maximization is all they really care for.
Waiting on the iPhone 16. None of this iPhone 15 PM nonsense.
I didn't say they should delay anything. But their SW QC lately leaves much to be desired.
I don't have the 15 Pro/Pro Max...yet. (still 13 PM) One thing I did notice with Instagram especially after iOS 17.0, this data sucking app is sucking data more than before. iPhone Storage showing an obscene 9.45GB in "Phone Storage" section in settings. That was yesterday...so I deleted it, again. 2nd time.
The night of Sept. 18 when I initially installed 17.0, Instagram showed just over 8GB of space used (I deleted the app, installed it again, which knocked it was down to 350mb). My phone is not showing heat issues...but 9GB in 10-11 days, no way I used that amount on this app. Something off is with IG, and other 3rd party apps.
I DO hope these rouge apps are the root cause..or a majority of it. I still wonder about those talking on the phone and other regular uses..and this phone heats up. Guess we'll see. I personally would like to grab this phone..but I will wait until this issue clears up.
The night of Sept. 18 when I initially installed 17.0, Instagram showed just over 8GB of space used (I deleted the app, installed it again, which knocked it was down to 350mb). My phone is not showing heat issues...but 9GB in 10-11 days, no way I used that amount on this app. Something off is with IG, and other 3rd party apps.
I DO hope these rouge apps are the root cause..or a majority of it. I still wonder about those talking on the phone and other regular uses..and this phone heats up. Guess we'll see. I personally would like to grab this phone..but I will wait until this issue clears up.
I do remember. Steve Jobs was already dead a year when Apple Maps launched.
Also, you’re comparing one of Apple’s most ambitious projects (mapping the world is hard!) to minor, iterative updates to a well established product.
Under Steve Jobs, the executive ranks were like a turnstile. Under Cook, it’s become a retirement home.
“We”? You mean, fanboys? Because no critically thinking, objective person could say that Apple is a better company now than it was under Jobs… it’s not even close.
I’m paying relatively high prices for gas but that doesn’t mean I like it. Smartphones are a necessity at this point.
And there are other factors for Apple’s “success.” Namely, the even greater ineptitude of their competitors… all 1 of them, and smartphones isn’t even their core business.
And stainless steel has less conductivity than Titanium. It’s not like these phones had aluminum frames before.
Try doing some basic research on Google or Wikipedia. Glass is 100x more insular vs. metal
Every version of iOS, and really every single OS, has had this happen. The 16.6.1 update was a security patch.
Your snide comment aside. Glass does conduct heat. It’s not as conductive as metals but it does conduct heat. That glass back is where the iPhone radiates most of its heat.
Titanium is replacing stainless steel which has even less thermal conductivity. How is the titanium the reason for this overheating? Is it the metal frames getting hot or the back glass?
Yep. Probably up to the developer to test their own apps. But that is just a guess.Uncommon games like Instagram and Uber?
I Google it and actually yes, but no idea how much better.
They're using Grade 5 titanium which has a thermal conductivity of 6.7 W/m-K. So it's even worse with regard to that material.
But that said, the new aluminum substrate makes it a lot more complicated. The aluminum is acting as a heat spreader allowing that heat to be spread evenly along the titanium outer frame (which is very thin). So it's possible that this engineered combination is giving the phone an overall better thermal flow than the previous stainless steel frame unitary frame. That likely had all the heat dissipating over a smaller region of the overall frame. Obviously we don't have the heat flow model, but it might be a really elegant solution.
It was just stainless steel for the old pro phones. I don't believe they had the aluminum substrate.
The thermal conductivity of glass is very low (1.38 vs 16.3 for SS and 6.7 for Ti). So a large portion of the heat does escape from the metal frame. The non-pro aluminum phones have the best material for this, but even with stainless and titanium's relative bad thermal conductivity, they're far superior to glass and the heat will flow through those regions faster.
It would look so cool too... Brass or Bronze would make a sweet frame (though bending would be an issue again)
I watched the same video and got something completely different out of it. He never said there was only 1mm left. He saw that the entire rail was made of Titanium. That same video also said it was Grade 5, which means Apple was not lying when it said that the rim was made of titanium. The leftovers looked like a lot more than 1mm of side rail.
His first video on the teardown of the 15 showed where the aluminum internals and the titanium met. Those meet on the inside each rail, not detracting at all from the width of the rail. The rail itself is titanium. I resist saying pure, since nobody uses pure. That’s where the grading system comes in. The railing looks the same pre-melting versus post-melting. He even commented he was surprised Apple made the USB-C ring out of titanium since it’s not as exposed, which to me shows Apple was using more titanium than promised.
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For security I can understand that but not really for privacy reasons otherwise they wouldn't approve Tiktok, Instagram or any other similar anti-privacy app.
Here’s the screen shot. The darker metal is Titanium, the lighter aluminum. I think everyone needs some clarification that when we’re saying “width” at this point, we’re talking about the cross section as seen in this photo, not the profile that is exposed on the sides of the phone. I have a feeling everyone is probably saying the same thing.
What is more or less clear is that the titanium portion of the frame is made up of a 1mm (in this cross sectional dimension) band of grade 5 titanium bonded to the aluminum, plus the buttons and USB-C ring.
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Your loss. After using it for a while now there is no doubt in my mind that the 15 PM is the best iPhone yet. The 16 will probably be improved as is usual, but doing without the 15 PM for a year will be your loss.