False. As a software engineer, simply coding an endless loop that uses a lot of system resources can peg a CPU at 100% infinitely. That is how an app can overheat a CPU. Apple says there’s a bug in their code that doesn’t handle that situation correctly and allows temperatures to get too high. That is NOT a hardware issue. Apple’s already said it’s a software bug and that a fix will come out shortly.
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Apple Says iPhone 15 Pro's Titanium Frame Does Not Contribute to Overheating Issue
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It’s iOS 17, but for clarity how low was your battery when you started charging? What’s the ambient temperature like?
In CT in the summer my phone tends to overheat in the car if I’m charging from a low battery and using GPS given I rarely use AC.
I find it amusing that anyone who disagrees with you is “rage replying”. That doesn’t make you right. Considering how many people are calling the titanium frame a veneer or facade should answer your question as to why I’ve been debating your contentions. Also, I’ve watched that video multiple times. At no point did they do any measurements. You’re just eyeballing it. The structure of the iPhone 15’s are roughly the same as the iPhone 14’s with the exception of the back plate on the Pros. Apple merely replaced the stainless steel rails with titanium rails. They didn’t make them thinner, nor did they turn them into a mere facade. They are solid rails meant for support. The interior, unexposed main chassis of the phone has been aluminum forever. My point is that Apple didn’t do anything but change the material of the rails from stainless steel to titanium and changed how the rails attach to the interior plate. Previously, they were screwed in. Now they’re chemically bonded. Just because they’re bonded doesn’t turn them into a facade or veneer, or whatever word people want to use to say they provide nothing but decoration.
Just got the warning on my 14 Pro about pausing charging until phone temp goes down (paraphrasing). So it iOS 17. And this is normal charging via lightning.
Started charging around 68%. Ambient temp approx 70F. Something that has been done M-F for the past several years.
Yes, 1 mm of Grade 5 titanium is present in the frame, which is majority aluminum.
I find it amusing that you make completely inaccurate statements and then are surprised when someone recognizes what it is - a rage reply. First, there were most certainly measurements. Zack had a digital thickness gauge/caliper, which produces very precise measurements. He found the titanium to be 1 mm thick and the majority of the frame was aluminum. Second, for the previous iPhones with stainless steel frame, the entire frame was stainless steel. Apple changed the frame and you may not like that but it is what they did. Third, a facade is the outer portion that one sees. You may read something nefarious into that but that's your choice and has no bearing on the objective fact that it is a facade - an outer portion that one sees. Finally, the veracity of something is not dependent on the number of people who agree or disagree with it. Zack has done extensive teardown and analysis and has consistently shown there is 1 mm of Grade 5 titanium facade, masterfully bonded to a majority aluminum frame. I understand you don't like what Apple has chosen to do, but that has zero bearing on this objective fact.
No no, you have no first hand experience, nor do you have any figures of how hot the phone is to be considered overheating, nor do you have even one reputable journalist saying the phone is actually overheating.
You're trying to say Apple has confirmed there's an over heating issue - don't move the goalposts and provide some crap link showing the phone gets warm while charging. Don't tell me to Google. Your link doesn't show that the phone is overheating.
You made these claims and you haven't provided one single shred of evidence to back them up. You should be embarrassed.
You've got no evidence the phone is overheating, no evidence that titanium is causing issues, no evidence Apple will throttle the SoC. If you have no evidence whatsoever, what is compelling you to keep making these claims? Do they give you a Mate 60 Pro if you get to 100 posts?
I don’t know where else to post this to get enough attention so I’ll post it everywhere.
My iPhone 15 Pro overheated while I was on a plane using Airplane Mode. I was using the Watch app to change the settings of my Apple Watch. I’ve had my new phone for over 9 days.
Apple says it’s an issue only with third party apps and/or background activity in the first few days. This was NOT the case for me. My iPhone 15 Pro was the hottest any of my iPhones have ever felt (unless it was in direct sunlight and I owned an iPhone 12 Pro Max prior) and the 15 Pro didn’t cool down until I stopped making changes using the Watch app.
I’m debating whether to trade my phone back in…
My iPhone 15 Pro overheated while I was on a plane using Airplane Mode. I was using the Watch app to change the settings of my Apple Watch. I’ve had my new phone for over 9 days.
Apple says it’s an issue only with third party apps and/or background activity in the first few days. This was NOT the case for me. My iPhone 15 Pro was the hottest any of my iPhones have ever felt (unless it was in direct sunlight and I owned an iPhone 12 Pro Max prior) and the 15 Pro didn’t cool down until I stopped making changes using the Watch app.
I’m debating whether to trade my phone back in…
It actually overheated? Or it got as hot as it would have if it was under full load?
That's only one cause. I found a base iPhone 15 on display at the Apple store that was really hot for no reason.
Only you can make that decision. From everything we know this is just a software issue, but if you're not happy with the phone you're welcome to return within 14 days.
To be clear, I don’t think anyone should take it back because of this. That was not the point I was trying to make.
How much of the frame was aluminium compared to the titanium?
How much of the frame was aluminium compared to the titanium?
Objectively, how much aluminium was there?
I have asked one single question, based on the fact you say there is objectively more aluminium in the frame, and you have not been able to provide a single reference to objectively prove your claim. I’ll give you an out. You can say, "it appears there is likely to be" but objectively, nah… that’s a lie.
If there is even the slightest tinge of doubt over your expensive, shiny new device, then do it. Give yourself a piece of mind while we wait and see how Apple addresses these issues, and if they really turn out to be anywhere as serious as people are making them out to be.
This doesn't explain why my iPhone 15 Pro Max never gets hot. Not a single time since I got it last week it ever gets hot.
Should I start to worry I have a defective iPhone? 😢
Should I start to worry I have a defective iPhone? 😢
Most of the vapour is already supplied by people on here making false claims about the world catching fire and objective evidence. We have that covered.
Blown out of proportion. Apple has a history of fixing issues. They have only been required, on the basis of being found guilty, to reimburse twice on hardware issues. Once for the Battery issue (settled this year) and they had to replace some MagSafe plugs in 2011. Potentially another ipod battery issue, but it was settled outside of litigation.
You are welcome to direct your question to Zack, who said the titanium was an adornment.
The frame is thicker than 2 mm. If there is 1 mm titanium, then the objective fact is that there is more than 1 mm of aluminum. I understand your subjective dislike of what Apple did but that doesn’t change the objective fact that there is 1 mm of Grade 5 titanium and more than 1 mm of aluminum.
You are welcome to direct your question to Zack, who said the titanium was an adornment.
Can you link to the part of the video where he measures the entire frame please? I mean… objective and all. I wouldn’t ask, but you made the claim. I can’t find the entire width measurement in the video and I have looked through the entire transcript. Actually making up evidence that is not there is not objective.
If you watch the video properly (maybe for the first time) you will see the thickness varies.
You’re funny. I love what Apple did and my iPhone 15 Pro is on order. As I have said numerous times. There is probably at least as much aluminium as titanium in the frame, but as we have no measurements (weight or width ) of the aluminium AND the titanium, we have no objective evidence. But you know that. You’re just trying to cover for making up claims with more of the same. There is no point anyone lying about this when we have all seen the video.
He doesn’t even measure the titanium width accurately. This is apparently 1.05mm. It’s probably more like 1.2 or 1.3 mm and the aluminium is maybe 1.4 in this section?? Who knows, he didn’t measure it accurately. You certainly don’t know. The area closest to the left shows clearly there is more titanium.
Thanks for finally watching the video. As you can clearly see in the screenshot you posted, there is objectively more aluminum (the lighter, lower portion) than there is titanium. It’s clear that your actual issue is with Zack, because you don’t like how he measured the frame. Zack had a proper tool to measure the thickness of the titanium and measured 1 mm of titanium in a frame that is thicker than 2 mm. It doesn’t have to be in a transcript or video to know that 1 mm of something that is thicker than 2 mm means that there is more of the remaining thickness. You may subjectively dislike the math but it doesn’t change the objective fact of the math.
Thank you also for confirming that you actually agree with me but are so invested in your rage replies that you are just denying objective fact so you can continue to “refute” claims I never made and actually argue for the thing you say you’re arguing against.
LOL. I apologise for upsetting you when pointing out facts you made up that aren’t there. I really don’t know if it was just a lack of knowledge or you simply felt like making up information, but it doesn’t matter. Internet and all. Being a person who has dealt with actual facts all my life and presenting expert technical evidence to criminal courts, I see using words accurately as important. You don’t, so I understand. It’s a big world. I won’t be replying to any more rants as clearly we live in different realities where I don’t make up evidence and call it objective. Meh.
Edit: I just re-read your last post. Seriously, are you okay? I'm actually, seriously starting to get worried.
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Are you claiming that the aluminum is thicker than the titanium? Clearly in Zack's video they are roughly the same thickness. His and your use of the term "adornment" is both dismissive and silly in the face of the evidence.
I never called it adornment, Zack did. The cut bent the frame, making the titanium appear thicker at the edge (hence why your line is angled). The aluminum is clearly thicker. Regardless, contrary to what some above claimed, the frame is most certainly not entirely titanium.
But somehow the cut didn't bend the aluminum to make it look thicker? Nice trick you've got there.