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Apple Says It Has No Plans for Solely ARM-Based or Touchscreen Macs
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Apple might "applaud" Microsoft, if the Surface Studio was better than a cool looking gimmick dude.
Ever used one? The Windows UI is not touch friendly. Tiny icons etc. Photoshop is not touch-centric, and never will be since it requires precision movement and alignment. You don't get that with a fat finger, and using a pencil to manipulate tiny UI items like lists, buttons etc. gets tiring at best. It's a total piece of crap that just looks cool.
Try actually using one for real work.
The absolute BEST setup, would be something like an iPad Pro that's able to sync up with creative software to act as a digital canvass. Dedicated devices, for dedicated tasks. The UI on the iPad pro would be touch-centric, and be an extension of the canvas in your application.
That's what Apple should strive for IMO.
Ever used one? The Windows UI is not touch friendly. Tiny icons etc. Photoshop is not touch-centric, and never will be since it requires precision movement and alignment. You don't get that with a fat finger, and using a pencil to manipulate tiny UI items like lists, buttons etc. gets tiring at best. It's a total piece of crap that just looks cool.
Try actually using one for real work.
The absolute BEST setup, would be something like an iPad Pro that's able to sync up with creative software to act as a digital canvass. Dedicated devices, for dedicated tasks. The UI on the iPad pro would be touch-centric, and be an extension of the canvas in your application.
That's what Apple should strive for IMO.
Nah, windows is very much touch friendly. Not every single aspect, but MS is really pushing and improving every single day. BTW photoshop has a touch optimized version of its programs which work wonderfully on my surface pro. I can only imagine they would be that much nicer on the huge screen the AIO has.
Instead of touching the screen for a convenience option, wouldn't it be cool to finger-paint in the air for taps, pinches, cursor movements? Like put a sensor dot on your fingertip and a camera in the screen assembly could track it. No pesky fingerprints on the screen.
Atom can be good in certain setups. Synology NAS's use them and they are pretty decent. Granted its a different kind of workload than a typical desktop. I have tacked on a few packages to my NAS no complaints (server services, and such).
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It's not proven wrong. Steve Jobs was talking about competing tablets in 2010. Those manufacturers using stylists had done so because they had failed to master touch input. That's what SJ was pointing out.
There was nothing "blanket" about it and no reason to think everything said must stand for all time and apply to all contexts.
It's not proven wrong. Steve Jobs was talking about competing tablets in 2010. Those manufacturers using stylists had done so because they had failed to master touch input. That's what SJ was pointing out.
There was nothing "blanket" about it and no reason to think everything said must stand for all time and apply to all contexts.
Well if not touchscreen, perhaps Apple is exploring the future beyond this technology? (Whatever that is exactly.)
Yeah, touchscreens for macbooks are stupid... wait what? Apple already made something like this?
https://www.apple.com/v/ipad/home/aa/images/home/ipadpro_large.jpg
Quite funny that touch should work on iPads with keyboard, but should be horrible with a macbook.
Just create a macbook with a detachable screen which functions as an ipad.
-> Screen attached = macbook with macos and a touchscreen
-> Screen detached = iPad with iOS
Kind of how microsoft went with the surface book, but much better with two different OS
Quite funny that touch should work on iPads with keyboard, but should be horrible with a macbook.
Just create a macbook with a detachable screen which functions as an ipad.
-> Screen attached = macbook with macos and a touchscreen
-> Screen detached = iPad with iOS
Kind of how microsoft went with the surface book, but much better with two different OS
How in the world is it "faster"?? I can move my mouse pointer 20 inches across the screen with a 1" pivot of my wrist. If you're touching the screen, you literally have to lift and move your entire arm the full 20 inches. Besides being hugely inconvenient, it takes substantially longer.
Over 2016, mac sales are less than 8% total revenue and slipping. They have single digit market share of computers and losing ground.
Nobody outside of Apple knows for sure what their profit is from those sales, but I can't think of a better way to shrink profit further than to waste money developing processors for products that are on the decline.
And the consequence is a total fiasco due to trure lack of TRUE compatibility. That was already seen with Microsoft Office for Intel x86 (real McCoy) and for ARM (Surface RT). Actually, there are even incompatibilities between Microsoft Office (Intel x86) on Mac versus Windows, and even between Macs and even between Windows, depending on machines, operating system versions, etc. As there are for Apple applications between Mac and iOS.
Just use special fonts, animations, different video formats and codecs, backgrounds, colors, tables, special layout and al breaks. So much that even Apple has guidelines to use simple setups to overcome some of such issues. But that is not the answer for the professional user. We need power, flexibility and last but not least, TRUE COMPATIBILITY with 95% of the world (read Windows). Besides true virtualization like VMware Fusion.
Why not just make Mac OS touch friendly and only have one OS? Trying to do 2 in one device would be a nightmare & the Surface Book does this just fine with one.. so does the SurfacePro
As to the no touching the screen or touch on a desktop is horrible etc etc
SurfacePro4 with dock & dual 24" monitors... when on the couch watching tv I can just use it as a tablet, use the pen which sticks to the side via magnets for more precise touch actions, fingers for everything else. I work in my office, dock via a single cable and I have standard keyboard mouse & three screens, the SP screen is used for anything touch related and I have it sitting just behind the external keyboard, it is also a great way to have something like a twitter feed going for easy watching while keeping the large screens for other stuff.
Don't get locked in to the idea that touch doesn't work, once you adapt you can find many different ways to take advantage of it. Seems to be too much defense of Apple (shock horror I know!) not adopting touch and too little realization that you can do so much more with it.
Maybe the killer for Apple is that to really do more with touch & MacOS they need to change how their laptops function (i.e. the hinge to have the screen presented multiple ways) and the moment they do that it is harder to justify two or more different lines doing the same thing. Once you take say an Air and give it the various positions then it functions the same way as an iPad with an external keyboard.
It's sad when you have to give interviews to reassure the public that the product line you neglected for so long isn't totally dead and that you have a "plan."
No, in my opinion, apple should put a trackpad on the smart keyboard cover, and have ios for the ipad pro support the trackpad in text intensive tasks like wordprocessing and email. That' s all.Yeah, touchscreens for macbooks are stupid... wait what? Apple already made something like this?
https://www.apple.com/v/ipad/home/aa/images/home/ipadpro_large.jpg
Quite funny that touch should work on iPads with keyboard, but should be horrible with a macbook.
Just create a macbook with a detachable screen which functions as an ipad.
-> Screen attached = macbook with macos and a touchscreen
-> Screen detached = iPad with iOS
Kind of how microsoft went with the surface book, but much better with two different OS
Windows 10 is amazing and only getting better. It's far from being a Frankenstein.
Except they haven't. Following the rest of the industry wouldn't be "thinking different".
Instead of creating a touchscreen laptop like everyone else they thought differently and released the Touch Bar and increased the size of the trackpad instead.
Now you get touch functions without your arms getting tired, getting fingerprints all over your screen, putting your hands in between your eyes and your screen and it's also on a much stabler horizontal plane instead of vertical.
So more talking about doing something. To my uninformed eye, it looks like Apple are planning to do the minimum they think they can get away with. I can't see there will be any reason to upgrade my present iMac.
You really believe it's that simple?
The entire Mac experience is designed around mouse/trackpad input. Every change would effect another function; you can't just cherry pick the best of both worlds. Even the initial concept doesn't make sense, because you would have to consider how the U.I scales itself depending on how far away you are from the said screen size.
There's also commercial aspects to this. iOS is perfect for a smartphone because your content and apps are where you expect them, with straightforward commands. Why would Apple then water down Mac OS just to make it useable on a phone?
Likewise, developers who created the several... MILLION.. apps on the iOS App Store would have to reengineer their software.
I can see Apple introducing a second-screen option and 'Wacom' tablet functionality for iPads with Macs, but not a single OS.
Of course those words were mentioned for using a stylus on a mobile/cell Phone.
That comment doesn't apply for Tablets, Laptops etc.
What is it with so many people who can't comprehend a basic concept.
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Times change yes, but SJ's comment as just as valid today as it was back then.
It was referencing for the use on a mobile phone and also as it's primary interfacing method
Yes, yes we have. Twice, in fact.
And each time, the result was a massive architecture change. First, from 68K to PowerPC. Then from PPC to x86.
Apple is really good at it. And they happen to have an OS architecture that is fairly Processor-Agnostic. If anyone can do it, and do it seamlessly, it's Apple.