My mini does not exhibit this supposedly normal jelly scrolling phenomenon. Should I return it for repair, since I clearly have an abnormal unit?
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Apple Says 'Jelly Scrolling' on iPad Mini 6 is Normal Behavior for LCD Screens
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Yes it is but it is the only mini I have so I am keeping it too and I love the form factor.
Also it is quite bad in this forum / more visible with all those lines. It bothers me less on some other websites.
Conclusion it is the content not the hardware 🤣
I just can’t imagine getting a 13 pro and this mini 6 and using them interchangeably and being like “eh whatever” but that’s just me.
The year of iPhone pro motion makes it saltier in my view
The year of iPhone pro motion makes it saltier in my view
Haha agreed this forum is one of the best to showcase the issue
i really do love the device too, there is no other device in the same league
Another non-issue to worry about.
How many are still worrying about their M1 Mac ssds going kaput within 365 days.
or the imac white bezels destroying the experience.
The internets likes to create problems to worry about.
How many are still worrying about their M1 Mac ssds going kaput within 365 days.
or the imac white bezels destroying the experience.
The internets likes to create problems to worry about.
If this problem does not clearly manifest itself on the larger iPad 9, iPad Air 4 or 11" iPad Pro, you wonder if there is a manufacturing defect with the screen on the new iPad mini?
Nearly every consumer LCD, OLED, and CRT display has scrolling skew. Whether or not the orientation of the display or its use case makes it noticeable is another issue.
Moving to higher refresh rates will help mitigate it. LCD VR headsets have flickering backlights that remove the skew and motion blur.
being perceptible is the difference
and the degree to which we have see saw gate visibly in front of our eyes for 499+
gaslighting just isn’t the move here
do you work for apple pr or something or are you that insecure about what people on the internet think of your purchases? Asking for a friend
Never happened on any of mine over the years, and I pick up on these kinds of things quite easily.
^^ this is 100% of the issue
In landscape mode on previous iPad minis, the jelly was almost impossible to detect for almost everybody, which is why it never became a discussion point.
Apple changing the panel orientation for the mini six has now made it easily detectable by a lot of people and it’s now an issue.
Jelly has always been there but how perceptible it is ...is the issue
Your comment was factually incorrect.
I am not defending Apple's choice to change the scanning direction on the new iPad. It looks like they made a poor choice.
Also, I have not purchased or owned any iPad minis.
And I can give you plenty of criticisms of displays used in Apple devices, including the display used in my 10.5" iPad Pro
Not all screens. But agreed, I noticed my 11 Pro Max does this too, and even worse on this M1 MacBook Pro I am typing on when swiping to different workspaces.
Learning more about this issue and the tech it appears it is specific to Sequential scan refresh as opposed to global. There are trade-offs to both methods, but cost and battery life is part of why sequential is used in these devices.
My unit was worse than I have seen in videos. Apples response is a joke to me but I can see the defenders coming out strong. In 10+ years of Apple LCD's, I have never seen this "effect".
If your unit doesn't have this display weirdness or you don't see it then more power to you.
If your unit doesn't have this display weirdness or you don't see it then more power to you.
It's a function of the width of the screen edge along which the refresh occurs, and on the mini 6 the refresh occurs along the short edge, which makes the issue very prominent. It's like how an ascending slope gets steeper the shorter you make the horizontal distance, assuming a fixed vertical height. With the iPad Pros, the 120 Hz also decreases the effect by half. There may be other factors like pixel response time (how fast a pixel reacts to a change in color).
This is ridiculous to make this big of deal about it. My mini 6 does it very slightly. At normal scrolling, you don’t even notice it. The only time I can get it to do it on mine is to wiggle the scrolling up and down fast.
But they didnt just 'change the scanning direction' as in make portrait the inferior one. its perceptibly worse period.
on a mini 5 its imperceptible to me in either orientation. the jelly is gravy.
On virtually every other device I own ( though I havent tried 90 degree shifting my MBAir and scrolling vertically admittedly or with my TV's) I have never seen this rear its head. it's beyond judder.
The limited time I used a browser on an OLED tv, or watched Star Wars with vertical scrolling for the pre text, there was no jelly whatsoever.
So this goes further than 'well its all tech' because its not.
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I legitimately would love to hear the backstory for how this was QA'd. 1 minute of using the device for one of its intended purposes and core strengths, reading articles, show it. Even if you can't place your finger on it, its perceptible immediately.
With a company so proud of attention to detail - this is such a fundamental thing to either miss or not care about.
It’s kind of where we’re at with Apple now.
The defense cult seems stronger than ever
I don’t get it…
It serves everyones interest to hold this company to a higher standard...not defend their missteps
It’s kind of where we’re at with Apple now.
The defense cult seems stronger than ever
I don’t get it…
It serves everyones interest to hold this company to a higher standard...not defend their missteps
If an android device did this, we'd all be dunking and alley oop'ing each other on how the buttery smoothness of iOS is light years ahead of anything Google can put out, 60 or 120hz.
I’m sure they’ll also say the same thing about my 13 pro max being dimmer than both a 11 and 12 pro max, also has a grey and red hue.
Won’t be buying any more apple products on launch day anymore, won’t be upgrading every year anymore as well.
They are cheaping out on display quality, so their shareholders and Timmy boy can get them extra dollars.
Won’t be buying any more apple products on launch day anymore, won’t be upgrading every year anymore as well.
They are cheaping out on display quality, so their shareholders and Timmy boy can get them extra dollars.
iPad mini 6 owners have been complaining about a "jelly scrolling" problem that affects some iPad mini models when using the device in portrait mode, and Apple now says that the behavior is normal for an LCD screen.
"Jelly scrolling" refers to screen tearing, which can cause text or images on one side of the screen to appear to be tilted downwards because of a mismatch in refresh rates. It can cause one side of the display to look as if it's responding faster than the other side, a visual disturbance that's hard to miss once you notice it.
Apple told Ars Technica that jelly scroll is normal behavior for an LCD. The screen is designed to refresh line by line, which can cause a tiny delay between when the lines at the top of the screen and the bottom of the screen are refreshed, resulting in uneven scrolling issues.
As many MacRumors readers have pointed out, the jelly scrolling effect is much more pronounced on the iPad mini 6 than on other iPads that also have an LCD screen like the iPad Air, or even the ninth-generation iPad that was released at the same time.
Unfortunately, with Apple calling the issue normal behavior, it means that those who are unhappy with the jelly scrolling effect will likely not be able to get a replacement device from Apple.
iPad mini 6 owners who can't get past the jelly scrolling on their tablets should make sure to make a return or get a replacement within 14 days after purchase during the standard return period. Not all iPad mini devices seem to be experiencing the issue to the same degree, so it may be possible to purchase one that has less of a scrolling delay.
Apple may also issue some kind of software fix in the future to address the problem, even though the company claims that it is normal behavior.
Article Link: Apple Says 'Jelly Scrolling' on iPad Mini 6 is Normal Behavior for LCD Scre
Why is it every time Apple gives a response to an issue I see Tim Cook saying it in my head!
Absolutely…
It would be a bonfire of wood burning at the android stake.
The hypocrisy of the cult knows no bounds.
(I say this is somebody who doesn’t like Android by the way)