Apple Says 'Jelly Scrolling' on iPad Mini 6 is Normal Behavior for LCD Screens

[turbineseaplane]

Have you seen it in person yet? I'll try to drop by the Apple Store this week. I was really hoping to update both my mini 5s to mini 6 but not if it has weird vertical scrolling. They are mounted to the yokes with a RAM X-grip and used on every flight. Even scrolling the ForeFlight map needs to be smooth and stable which can obviously move in any direction.

Sigh. One step forward, two steps back.

Yep - brought my Mini5 to BestBuy yesterday and did a half hour with it.

It was easy to see the jelly - you won't miss seeing it (I don't think - some really seem to not notice it).

Was a major bummer.

Also, just on the screen quality front, it was disappointing to confirm that the quality of the screen wasn't upgraded at all. I'm not expecting miracles, but for how I use the Mini, the screen quality is numero uno for me.

The 6 just feels like a lateral move for me (and a downgrade if considering the portrait jelly thing). It has some other changes of course that some people benefit from, but I don't really care about on the Mini. That stuff is all subjective.

Hopefully you have a better experience when you get hands on one.
Please do report back!

 

[dennislaska]

You're holding it wrong.................

 

[jdb8167]

Definitely. But anyone reading on a phone in landscape is insane. Portrait on an iPad mini is the main use case.

I read my iPhone in landscape occasionally but usually in response to a poorly designed website. So I agree that Apple didn't consider this carefully enough and seemingly just copied the iPad Air 4 design.

 

[macduke]

Apple: You jelly?

YUSSSSSSS

 

[dojoman]

Holding it wrong and gate comments are getting annoying.

 

[turbineseaplane]

And in every other metric such as color depth and apparent resolution this display is better than previous Minis.

Citations needed if you please..

Where are you getting data showing better color depth?
The 6 and 5 screens, from a specs standpoint, that I can see anywhere, are identical in quality.

Side by side in hand, they appear absolutely identical from all I could tell also.

 

[Okasian]

Yes, the screen is operating within its specifications. Those specifications just happen to be a mid level tablet from 2014.

For those of a litigious nature, the 2014 iPads had (and were advertised as) Retina Displays, not Liquid Retina Displays, as potentially falsely-advertised by Apple in this latest iteration.

 

[MDMac]

This is the first time I’ve noticed this issue on an iPad. I noticed this right out of the box before any news broke.

I’m returning the Mini 6 not for this issue specifically, but because motion handling is poor in general. Scrolling around just fatigues my eyes. Smearing everywhere.

 

[turbineseaplane]

This is the first time I’ve noticed this issue on an iPad. I noticed this right out of the box before any news broke.

I’m returning the Mini 6 not for this issue specifically, but because motion handling is poor in general. Scrolling around just fatigues my eyes. Smearing everywhere.

That's a great point too - I sort of felt this way as well (about the smearing).

That plus the jelly being so pronounced, really does make me wonder if they sourced some cheaper panels here.

 

[Jensend]

Hey Apple, how about just making all your touch displays 120Hz so this is less noticeable? That should reduce the possible jelly effect by half.
(though I can still see the skew on my 120Hz OLED tv using https://www.testufo.com/scanskew )

 

[WilliamG]

We got to the point where Apple being in blatant denial is also normal behavior.

I remember this effect even on iPhone screens in the past. This isn’t a new phenomenon.

 

[turbineseaplane]

For those of a litigious nature, the 2014 iPads had (and were advertised as) Retina Displays, not Liquid Retina Displays, as potentially falsely-advertised by Apple in this latest iteration.

I think we've figured out that "liquid" simply means "rounded corners" in this case.

All the other quality related specs between the Mini 5 and Mini 6 screens seem to be identical.

 

[tonie walker]

…the jelly scrolling is really obvious across the apps (youtube, apple music, etc). Sorry ipad mini, a must return. Feels like we are living backwards. After a year, Tim will acknowledge this as issue but minor.

 

[smorrissey]

My expensive ipad pro 10.5 has a white spot for free:

 

[Lucas Curious]

I just spent 2 hours looking at mini 6 reviews. 2 hours wasted and keeping the 5

 

[CPx]

Interesting video, showing that other iPads and tablets also have this “jelly effect”. It just seems more pronounced and in portrait mode as opposed to landscape.

Wow, that's pretty bad. The jelly scroll on the Mini 4 made me stop using it. Mini 5 was much better. Sorry to see things have regressed.

 

[NMBob]

Hope I can get my money back on my 2 yo 10.5, because it doesn't do it. Must be abbynormal.

 

[macuser29385]

Okaaaay, so my unit has to go back to them 😢
I like the form-factor, the colours, everything, but I use it only in portrait mode, so the issue is a serious one for me. Damn 🥺

Virtually every LCD screen does this - surely you can just ignore it?

 

[MikeZTM]

I just spent 2 hours looking at mini 6 reviews. 2 hours wasted and keeping the 5

Just rotate 90 degrees and you will find your mini 5 have jelly effect too.
Apple is being honest for this question. If they said it will be fixed in the future through software update/hardware refresh that would be lying.

 

[ScanTheNavian]

I read my iPhone in landscape occasionally but usually in response to a poorly designed website. So I agree that Apple didn't consider this carefully enough and seemingly just copied the iPad Air 4 design.

Apple: So we made an iPad Air 4 Mini
Buyers: Hoooray!
Apple: We mean...really like an Air 4
Buyers: Oh no!

 

[Psychicbob]

iPad is fine. Your eyeballs are oscillating

 

[BradLA]

Now I want to go to the Apple store and check this out. I‘ve had a mini 5 for a year and a half and never noticed anything like this.

 

[betasp]

I bet it is quietly fixed in the next 6 months.

 

[MikeZTM]

Now I want to go to the Apple store and check this out. I‘ve had a mini 5 for a year and a half and never noticed anything like this.

Just do the scroll test in landscape mode and you will find it's doing jelly scrolling too.
Almost all LCD panel have this issue. This issue can be workaround by using higher refresh rate.

 

[carlsson]

I have a Mini v5, and I can't see this behavior at all (and I am extremely anal about these things). Seems to be different versions and different batches.
I feel bad for those who get a panel like this. Immediate return. Apple should return them to the producer.

With that said; I wonder how many get a bad panel? 10%? More?