Apple Says Latest macOS Supplemental Update Addresses Audio and Kernel Panic Issues on 2018 MacBook Pro

I wonder what features Apple disables yo remedy those issues.
Normally the "fix" is to disable certain optimisations in a driver that itself has side effects nobody can really analyse.
So "No kernel panics, but play it safe code".
 
And yet i've owned the 2016, 2017 and now 2018 versions and I can honestly say they've been the most enjoyable MacBook Pro's I've ever owned, and i've had fair few others too!
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I think these are totally unnecessary precautions anyway and we've managed to live with 18 years of OS X without them (plus I need to boot from an external drive quite a lot!) i've heard this can help.

Glad for you that you enjoy your Macbooks.
Though why is it that Apple is being sued with a class action lawsuit due to the poor quality of the keyboard.
Also they had problems with the battery.
2018 Macbooks Pros are NOT upgradable (Ram and HD soldered) which makes them more prone failure.
No mag safe
still cannot connect your own iPhone/iPad.

What is the purpose of owning a Macbook if you need to carry an external drive in order to boot from?
 
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Ever since Apple redesigned and updated the MacBook Pro in 2016, there's been nothing but bad news and problems with them. Even more infuriating is how expensive these laptops are. At this point, the redesigned MacBook Pros have a tainted image that I certainly don't want to be a part of.

Get your **** together Apple, making great laptops should be child's play for you. Lay off the iPhone green for a while and sober up.

The problem with these laptops is that.. they are not really PRO they are more of a "show piece". PRO who needs to get work done should not have to deal with paper thin, expensive to fix, flimsy hardware that has hard time functioning right. It should be sturdy and reliable just like how every other "heavy duty" machinery is labeled. Not heat throttled.

I wouldn't have mind if this was the new "Macbook" which is a fashion statement I guess.

I hate this kind of response. I have spent tens of thousands of my own money on Apple products over the past decade (including $6,000 on the new MBP). Perhaps you're too young to remember, or just forgot, but things weren't 100% rosy when Steve was around. Remember Antenna Gate on the iPhone 4? We were all holding it wrong... Or how about how gawd awful Apple's cloud offerings used to be? Ever heard of Ping? Social for music...yeah, Myspace already happened.

Crap happens, and at least they are being proactive about trying to fix the issues.

Apple did release bad products here and there like Ping which was a social network, and maybe the G4 Cube.

But the overall pictures was that it was always moving forward amazingly improved products. The first imac->iMac flatpanel->All in one iMac. The OS Xs for example, the iphones, the ibooks.. the list goes on. Apple really do have a dedicated hardware loyalists. But...

Now days the ball has been dropped, the current iMac is basically the same form from like 14 years ago except thinner. The Mac Mini has not been updated in centuries, the majority seems to hate on the new touchbar expensive macbook pros, the Mac Pros are a joke, and people seem unhappy with the Air. OS X is getting the 2nd class citizen treatment. Its not been getting the major useful improvements it used to get. It was the star of the show.

Sure, the iphones, airpods, iPads are fine... but the Mac state is sad compared to what it used to be honestly.
 
What about 2017 Macbook kernel panic problems? I'm having a complete freeze once a week now. After reinstalling the OS it stopped for a while, but now it's back.
 
I've been having these same exact issues on my iMac Pro since the release of High Sierra. It is 100% insane considering this computer cost nearly $10k! Super pissed. :mad:
 
I got my 2018 MBP on 7/20 [15" / 2.6GHz i7 / 16GB RAM / 1TB SSD....] and have had a couple of crashes - none recently while running 10.13.6. After a few weeks, I tried to install Mojave (Dev Beta4) unsuccessfully. Along with Dev Beta 4, I've tried every subsequent Dev Beta including Monday's (DB9). The same thing happens each time - right when the install appears as it is about to finish, the machine's fans spin hard for a second as it crashes to a total power off state. Then I boot via the power button and Mojave's login screen appears. At this point one of 2 things happen: 1. It crashes the same way - hard fan rev while crashing to black, but it then reboots itself into a loop; OR 2. I can actually type in my password with the login screen being super slow (~10sec) after typing the PW, it displays the *s indicating the pw entered and then after spinning gear for about 30s, it crashes - again with the fan rev while crashing followed by reboot. I can boot into safe mode and actually login but the responsiveness remains painfully slow along with an X in the WiFi icon which if clicked says something like 'No Wireless Hardware Installed.'

I've done about as much troubleshooting as I know how or have had help from the kind individuals on the forums here and in the Apple Support and Dev Forums have shared - helping me with commands to move old extensions away from where the OS will try to load - amongst several other helpful advice, but alas, no dice on Mojave. I am able to boot to Restore mode (which I do first anyway to use disk utility within Restore and double check the restrictions) and restore to High Sierra TM backup.

The best this machine runs is when after the 8th Dev Beta came out, I did an experiment and in Disk Utility added a volume (not a partition) within the APFS container and then installed the DevBeta on this new volume without any of my old settings, data, prefs, or anything brought in - just a dummy account.

Since I have had (from the console log) MacOS and BridgeOS panics, would anyone recommend how to learn which stuff to get rid of as there are extensions that are very old and likely carried over from other machines and drives. I've been looking up what each .kext file I have is but even then I'm not 100% clear as to how to remove some software permanently (amongst other actions, getting rid of certain pref .plist files) as often a related process is found running in Activity Monitor. Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the total clean install as I'm paranoid to totally erase the drive. I wonder if there's something to what was posted in this thread earlier about a difft version of BridgeOS in Mojave. At one point I had to install HS and use Migration Assist but did something screwy forcing me to setup a new user and delete my user so I could resume using my name as I'm used to for my user/home.

Sorry, kind of unrelated, but wanted to make sure I shared also (see above) that I've had this problem a few times and also that the best this machine was running was on Mojave clean install on a new volume....thanks to those who are solution minded and I definitely feel the pain of spending thousands and thousands since my first PowerPC running Jaguar along with every iPhone gen after multiple Macs, iPods, iPads, Apple Watches, and more - the amount of time spent on issues is something I try not to think about....sorry for the long post....thnx.
 
While I was reading this thread, responding to an iMessage in the quick reply feature, that reply hung and the computer shut off. I was finally able to get it to reboot and see the below log.

This is on a 2018 13 in MacBook Pro and is the second Bridge OS crash I've experienced in the last 8 hours. I posted details on that one in another thread, but seemed to be related to the sleep/wake. Both have occurred after installing yesterday's supplemental update. I don't recall a crash before that supplemental.

Today is 15 days since purchase, so I'm one day past my return window.

{"caused_by":"macos","macos_system_state":"running","bug_type":"210","os_version":"Bridge OS 2.4.1 (15P6805)","timestamp":"2018-08-29 18:33:34.50 +0000","incident_id":"7CE51A17-C3E0-4280-B609-9BDADABF7D6D"}
{
"build" : "Bridge OS 2.4.1 (15P6805)",
"product" : "iBridge2,4",
"kernel" : "Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Fri Jul 6 19:25:51 PDT 2018; root:xnu-4570.71.3~1\/RELEASE_ARM64_T8010",
"incident" : "7CE51A17-C3E0-4280-B609-9BDADABF7D6D",
"crashReporterKey" : "c0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0de0001",
"date" : "2018-08-29 18:33:34.40 +0000",
"panicString" : "panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffff00b773984): macOS watchdog detected\nDebugger message: panic\nMemory ID: 0x6\nOS version: 15P6805\nKernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Fri Jul 6 19:25:51 PDT 2018; root:xnu-4570.71.3~1\/RELEASE_ARM64_T8010\nKernelCache
[doublepost=1535741278][/doublepost]Should I install this update or not? I'm confused now
 
What a nonsense.
So because you don't have a problem on a new machine, it's definitely hardware issues. Right. My machine didn't have any problem for a week. So what happened with the SoC? It "just broke"?

I'm observing the thread on forum and from all posts you can conclude one thing: nobody knows **** they talk about.
Clearly the issue isn't as widespread as some suggests. Yes, there are 90 pages of the topic, but some folks, like @StudioSanctum have a lot of posts there – I mean this guy is on almost every ****ing page. Sure there are many visits, but I made there at least 100 visits alone. @StudioSanctum probably doesn't work and stays on this forum whole day and refreshes the website every minute or so.
For example: I had 2 crashes after installing Mojave and downgrading to High Sierra on August, 24th.
I've googled panic string:
"macOSPanicString" : "BAD MAGIC! (flag set in iBoot panic header), no macOS panic log available”
Guess what? There are only 4 search results...

Clearly there are different issues, some have macOS panics, some have bridgeOS panic, in some cases it's related to some extra kexts installed on the OS, in some cases probably it's really hardware issues, maybe bridgeOS 3 isn't fully compatible with High Sierra (because downgrade isn't supported), etc.
Don't get me wrong, I can't work on this **** too. The crash on a new machine is so distracting and pissing off that it's hard to imagine.

Are the 2018 Macbooks Pro ****ed up? YES.
(beside the issues it's really nice machine imo)
Someone responsible for this hardware (or hardware/software integration) should be fired.

But guys, chillout. Instead of wasting time here by finding magical cure for different issues, go on f***ing https://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html or https://bugreport.apple.com/web/ and spam them after each crash you have.

Wait to late September at least if you wan to buy it.
Thanks

The log file for T2 panic is in a different location. You
 
i have a new issue since the update - now my external 1920x1200 dell monitor will only run at 30Hz on usb-c -> displayport, despite system prefs reporting it as 60Hz, unless i do a crazy unplugging, messing around with resolutions, turning the monitor off and on kind of thing until it eventually (sometimes) works correctly. problem is as soon as it goes to sleep, the problem returns. the way i know it's running in 30fps is that my game runs perfectly smooth on the internal screen but as soon as i drag the window over to the old dell monitor, the framerate halves (with corresponding stutter), despite the game still reporting 60.

this means that serious gamedev is impossible on the machine, as is displaying the game at shows, the reason i bought it.

at least it hasn't kernel panicked or speaker-exploded since the update i guess
 
Last night I started experiencing the crackling audio issue on my 2018 15" MacBook Pro. I'm running the newest version of macOS Mojave Beta 10.14. I did a clean upgrade to Mojave before Apple released the High Sierra supplemental update.

If I erase my hard drive and reinstall High Sierra, apply the supplemental update, and then upgrade to Mojave beta again, will my laptop retain the fix? Or is this a software fix that will be overwritten after I upgrade to Mojave again?
 
Wow. Seems you guys are having a rough time with these computers. Have you considered switching to the new X1 Extreme by Lenovo?
 
another issue i'm seeing quite often is safari freezing up, beachballing. from then web pages refuse to load beyond about halfway. only a restart fixes this, but the restart is hard to do, often requiring waiting for force quit dialogue to come up which takes ages, then force quitting things like iTunes, Unity and Safari before i'm allowed to restart. the restart itself then takes several minutes. this often happens at the start of the day, meaning i lose track of all my open docs + tabs

i really don't like this computer. the other thing that's really getting me beyond the instability of the software is the noise - i frequently can't even hear netflix at decent volume through 8-inch speakers because of the fans. they come on seemingly randomly
 
Glad for you that you enjoy your Macbooks.
Though why is it that Apple is being sued with a class action lawsuit due to the poor quality of the keyboard.
Also they had problems with the battery.
2018 Macbooks Pros are NOT upgradable (Ram and HD soldered) which makes them more prone failure.
No mag safe
still cannot connect your own iPhone/iPad.

What is the purpose of owning a Macbook if you need to carry an external drive in order to boot from?

USB-C is much better than Magsafe, i've not missed it once and if you're really that useless and clumsy you can buy USB-C connectors with a magnet in them that work just the same.

I can connect my iPhone/iPad just fine to be fair, I just bought the cable - though I never do, I just use the wifi sync feature, im not sure why suddenly the entire MacRumors forum so desperate needs to connect their iPhone to their Mac all the time (I suspect they don't, it's just a moan they like to push out)

Don't care about upgrade-ability, never have, I upgrade every year anyway, but even if I kept it for three years there would be other advancements i'd want on a system that aren't just CPU or RAM related.

I don't carry an external drive around to boot from, I use an deployment OS to boot systems as a Mac admin, it's got nothing to do with the MacBook Pro. Though I assume that means the one thing you do like is the T2 security - or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
 
USB-C is much better than Magsafe, i've not missed it once and if you're really that useless and clumsy you can buy USB-C connectors with a magnet in them that work just the same.

I can connect my iPhone/iPad just fine to be fair, I just bought the cable - though I never do, I just use the wifi sync feature, im not sure why suddenly the entire MacRumors forum so desperate needs to connect their iPhone to their Mac all the time (I suspect they don't, it's just a moan they like to push out)

Don't care about upgrade-ability, never have, I upgrade every year anyway, but even if I kept it for three years there would be other advancements i'd want on a system that aren't just CPU or RAM related.

I don't carry an external drive around to boot from, I use an deployment OS to boot systems as a Mac admin, it's got nothing to do with the MacBook Pro. Though I assume that means the one thing you do like is the T2 security - or are you just arguing for the sake of it?

It seems that the clueless is you that failed to understand that a computer with soldered components is more prone to failure. That if you are buying an overpriced, underperforming computer, the last thing I need is to go and spend extra money not only to connect other Apple products, but also in dongles to connect basic things like TV/ monitors or basic standard external products.
In addition of the bad quality keyboard design that no one likes and was failing since 2016. I do not think that is not a Pro product. But hey... go ahead and keep buying apple worst design Macbooks ever...

Maybe you should look and some real reviews...
 
It seems that the clueless is you that failed to understand that a computer with soldered components is more prone to failure. That if you are buying an overpriced, underperforming computer, the last thing I need is to go and spend extra money not only to connect other Apple products, but also in dongles to connect basic things like TV/ monitors or basic standard external products.
In addition of the bad quality keyboard design that no one likes and was failing since 2016. I do not think that is not a Pro product. But hey... go ahead and keep buying apple worst design Macbooks ever...

Maybe you should look and some real reviews...

Hahaha a Linus tech tips video - and that's where you lost me.

You do you man x
 
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