Apple Says Latest macOS Supplemental Update Addresses Audio and Kernel Panic Issues on 2018 MacBook Pro
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Plutonius
macrumors G3
Very good advice.
I always wondered why people want to pay to be a beta tester by buying new hardware right after it comes out ?
Peperino
macrumors 65816
Glad for you that you enjoy your Macbooks.
Though why is it that Apple is being sued with a class action lawsuit due to the poor quality of the keyboard.
Also they had problems with the battery.
2018 Macbooks Pros are NOT upgradable (Ram and HD soldered) which makes them more prone failure.
No mag safe
still cannot connect your own iPhone/iPad.
What is the purpose of owning a Macbook if you need to carry an external drive in order to boot from?
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MacBH928
macrumors G3
The problem with these laptops is that.. they are not really PRO they are more of a "show piece". PRO who needs to get work done should not have to deal with paper thin, expensive to fix, flimsy hardware that has hard time functioning right. It should be sturdy and reliable just like how every other "heavy duty" machinery is labeled. Not heat throttled.
I wouldn't have mind if this was the new "Macbook" which is a fashion statement I guess.
Apple did release bad products here and there like Ping which was a social network, and maybe the G4 Cube.
But the overall pictures was that it was always moving forward amazingly improved products. The first imac->iMac flatpanel->All in one iMac. The OS Xs for example, the iphones, the ibooks.. the list goes on. Apple really do have a dedicated hardware loyalists. But...
Now days the ball has been dropped, the current iMac is basically the same form from like 14 years ago except thinner. The Mac Mini has not been updated in centuries, the majority seems to hate on the new touchbar expensive macbook pros, the Mac Pros are a joke, and people seem unhappy with the Air. OS X is getting the 2nd class citizen treatment. Its not been getting the major useful improvements it used to get. It was the star of the show.
Sure, the iphones, airpods, iPads are fine... but the Mac state is sad compared to what it used to be honestly.
itsamacthing
macrumors 6502a
I returned my 2018 after daily BridgeOS crashes, no way I am going to sit around and wait for a fix... I'm sitting this disaster out.
rhoydotp
macrumors 6502
Don't you love people that says "clearly" ... I'm with you, I was also looking at what they've updated for older models. I have a mid-2014 and mid-2015 MBP.
I've been having these same exact issues on my iMac Pro since the release of High Sierra. It is 100% insane considering this computer cost nearly $10k! Super pissed.
https://www.apple.com/feedback/imac.html
https://bugreport.apple.com/web/
dizash
macrumors member
I got my 2018 MBP on 7/20 [15" / 2.6GHz i7 / 16GB RAM / 1TB SSD....] and have had a couple of crashes - none recently while running 10.13.6. After a few weeks, I tried to install Mojave (Dev Beta4) unsuccessfully. Along with Dev Beta 4, I've tried every subsequent Dev Beta including Monday's (DB9). The same thing happens each time - right when the install appears as it is about to finish, the machine's fans spin hard for a second as it crashes to a total power off state. Then I boot via the power button and Mojave's login screen appears. At this point one of 2 things happen: 1. It crashes the same way - hard fan rev while crashing to black, but it then reboots itself into a loop; OR 2. I can actually type in my password with the login screen being super slow (~10sec) after typing the PW, it displays the *s indicating the pw entered and then after spinning gear for about 30s, it crashes - again with the fan rev while crashing followed by reboot. I can boot into safe mode and actually login but the responsiveness remains painfully slow along with an X in the WiFi icon which if clicked says something like 'No Wireless Hardware Installed.'
I've done about as much troubleshooting as I know how or have had help from the kind individuals on the forums here and in the Apple Support and Dev Forums have shared - helping me with commands to move old extensions away from where the OS will try to load - amongst several other helpful advice, but alas, no dice on Mojave. I am able to boot to Restore mode (which I do first anyway to use disk utility within Restore and double check the restrictions) and restore to High Sierra TM backup.
The best this machine runs is when after the 8th Dev Beta came out, I did an experiment and in Disk Utility added a volume (not a partition) within the APFS container and then installed the DevBeta on this new volume without any of my old settings, data, prefs, or anything brought in - just a dummy account.
Since I have had (from the console log) MacOS and BridgeOS panics, would anyone recommend how to learn which stuff to get rid of as there are extensions that are very old and likely carried over from other machines and drives. I've been looking up what each .kext file I have is but even then I'm not 100% clear as to how to remove some software permanently (amongst other actions, getting rid of certain pref .plist files) as often a related process is found running in Activity Monitor. Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the total clean install as I'm paranoid to totally erase the drive. I wonder if there's something to what was posted in this thread earlier about a difft version of BridgeOS in Mojave. At one point I had to install HS and use Migration Assist but did something screwy forcing me to setup a new user and delete my user so I could resume using my name as I'm used to for my user/home.
Sorry, kind of unrelated, but wanted to make sure I shared also (see above) that I've had this problem a few times and also that the best this machine was running was on Mojave clean install on a new volume....thanks to those who are solution minded and I definitely feel the pain of spending thousands and thousands since my first PowerPC running Jaguar along with every iPhone gen after multiple Macs, iPods, iPads, Apple Watches, and more - the amount of time spent on issues is something I try not to think about....sorry for the long post....thnx.
I've done about as much troubleshooting as I know how or have had help from the kind individuals on the forums here and in the Apple Support and Dev Forums have shared - helping me with commands to move old extensions away from where the OS will try to load - amongst several other helpful advice, but alas, no dice on Mojave. I am able to boot to Restore mode (which I do first anyway to use disk utility within Restore and double check the restrictions) and restore to High Sierra TM backup.
The best this machine runs is when after the 8th Dev Beta came out, I did an experiment and in Disk Utility added a volume (not a partition) within the APFS container and then installed the DevBeta on this new volume without any of my old settings, data, prefs, or anything brought in - just a dummy account.
Since I have had (from the console log) MacOS and BridgeOS panics, would anyone recommend how to learn which stuff to get rid of as there are extensions that are very old and likely carried over from other machines and drives. I've been looking up what each .kext file I have is but even then I'm not 100% clear as to how to remove some software permanently (amongst other actions, getting rid of certain pref .plist files) as often a related process is found running in Activity Monitor. Obviously, I'm trying to avoid the total clean install as I'm paranoid to totally erase the drive. I wonder if there's something to what was posted in this thread earlier about a difft version of BridgeOS in Mojave. At one point I had to install HS and use Migration Assist but did something screwy forcing me to setup a new user and delete my user so I could resume using my name as I'm used to for my user/home.
Sorry, kind of unrelated, but wanted to make sure I shared also (see above) that I've had this problem a few times and also that the best this machine was running was on Mojave clean install on a new volume....thanks to those who are solution minded and I definitely feel the pain of spending thousands and thousands since my first PowerPC running Jaguar along with every iPhone gen after multiple Macs, iPods, iPads, Apple Watches, and more - the amount of time spent on issues is something I try not to think about....sorry for the long post....thnx.
**maestro**
macrumors member
I received my new 2018 Macbook Pro yesterday. All updated yesterday to the latest OS and today.... exactly this crash! NOT HAPPY.
[doublepost=1535741278][/doublepost]Should I install this update or not? I'm confused now
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Delgibbons
macrumors 6502a
I think Microsoft should make any Apple computer's network connection on Windows display a kernel panic icon... .. Just to show how the tables have turned
The log file for T2 panic is in a different location. You
i have a new issue since the update - now my external 1920x1200 dell monitor will only run at 30Hz on usb-c -> displayport, despite system prefs reporting it as 60Hz, unless i do a crazy unplugging, messing around with resolutions, turning the monitor off and on kind of thing until it eventually (sometimes) works correctly. problem is as soon as it goes to sleep, the problem returns. the way i know it's running in 30fps is that my game runs perfectly smooth on the internal screen but as soon as i drag the window over to the old dell monitor, the framerate halves (with corresponding stutter), despite the game still reporting 60.
this means that serious gamedev is impossible on the machine, as is displaying the game at shows, the reason i bought it.
at least it hasn't kernel panicked or speaker-exploded since the update i guess
this means that serious gamedev is impossible on the machine, as is displaying the game at shows, the reason i bought it.
at least it hasn't kernel panicked or speaker-exploded since the update i guess
ryanflanders256
macrumors regular
Last night I started experiencing the crackling audio issue on my 2018 15" MacBook Pro. I'm running the newest version of macOS Mojave Beta 10.14. I did a clean upgrade to Mojave before Apple released the High Sierra supplemental update.
If I erase my hard drive and reinstall High Sierra, apply the supplemental update, and then upgrade to Mojave beta again, will my laptop retain the fix? Or is this a software fix that will be overwritten after I upgrade to Mojave again?
If I erase my hard drive and reinstall High Sierra, apply the supplemental update, and then upgrade to Mojave beta again, will my laptop retain the fix? Or is this a software fix that will be overwritten after I upgrade to Mojave again?
another issue i'm seeing quite often is safari freezing up, beachballing. from then web pages refuse to load beyond about halfway. only a restart fixes this, but the restart is hard to do, often requiring waiting for force quit dialogue to come up which takes ages, then force quitting things like iTunes, Unity and Safari before i'm allowed to restart. the restart itself then takes several minutes. this often happens at the start of the day, meaning i lose track of all my open docs + tabs
i really don't like this computer. the other thing that's really getting me beyond the instability of the software is the noise - i frequently can't even hear netflix at decent volume through 8-inch speakers because of the fans. they come on seemingly randomly
i really don't like this computer. the other thing that's really getting me beyond the instability of the software is the noise - i frequently can't even hear netflix at decent volume through 8-inch speakers because of the fans. they come on seemingly randomly
dannys1
macrumors 68040
USB-C is much better than Magsafe, i've not missed it once and if you're really that useless and clumsy you can buy USB-C connectors with a magnet in them that work just the same.
I can connect my iPhone/iPad just fine to be fair, I just bought the cable - though I never do, I just use the wifi sync feature, im not sure why suddenly the entire MacRumors forum so desperate needs to connect their iPhone to their Mac all the time (I suspect they don't, it's just a moan they like to push out)
Don't care about upgrade-ability, never have, I upgrade every year anyway, but even if I kept it for three years there would be other advancements i'd want on a system that aren't just CPU or RAM related.
I don't carry an external drive around to boot from, I use an deployment OS to boot systems as a Mac admin, it's got nothing to do with the MacBook Pro. Though I assume that means the one thing you do like is the T2 security - or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
Peperino
macrumors 65816
It seems that the clueless is you that failed to understand that a computer with soldered components is more prone to failure. That if you are buying an overpriced, underperforming computer, the last thing I need is to go and spend extra money not only to connect other Apple products, but also in dongles to connect basic things like TV/ monitors or basic standard external products.
In addition of the bad quality keyboard design that no one likes and was failing since 2016. I do not think that is not a Pro product. But hey... go ahead and keep buying apple worst design Macbooks ever...
Maybe you should look and some real reviews...