Wait to late September at least if you wan to buy it.
And yet i've owned the 2016, 2017 and now 2018 versions and I can honestly say they've been the most enjoyable MacBook Pro's I've ever owned, and i've had fair few others too!
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I think these are totally unnecessary precautions anyway and we've managed to live with 18 years of OS X without them (plus I need to boot from an external drive quite a lot!) i've heard this can help.
Ever since Apple redesigned and updated the MacBook Pro in 2016, there's been nothing but bad news and problems with them. Even more infuriating is how expensive these laptops are. At this point, the redesigned MacBook Pros have a tainted image that I certainly don't want to be a part of.
Get your **** together Apple, making great laptops should be child's play for you. Lay off the iPhone green for a while and sober up.
I hate this kind of response. I have spent tens of thousands of my own money on Apple products over the past decade (including $6,000 on the new MBP). Perhaps you're too young to remember, or just forgot, but things weren't 100% rosy when Steve was around. Remember Antenna Gate on the iPhone 4? We were all holding it wrong... Or how about how gawd awful Apple's cloud offerings used to be? Ever heard of Ping? Social for music...yeah, Myspace already happened.
Crap happens, and at least they are being proactive about trying to fix the issues.
It doesn't mean that there weren't fixes for the 2016 models... They don't list every single piece of code they've updated.
I've been having these same exact issues on my iMac Pro since the release of High Sierra. It is 100% insane considering this computer cost nearly $10k! Super pissed.![]()
[doublepost=1535741278][/doublepost]Should I install this update or not? I'm confused nowWhile I was reading this thread, responding to an iMessage in the quick reply feature, that reply hung and the computer shut off. I was finally able to get it to reboot and see the below log.
This is on a 2018 13 in MacBook Pro and is the second Bridge OS crash I've experienced in the last 8 hours. I posted details on that one in another thread, but seemed to be related to the sleep/wake. Both have occurred after installing yesterday's supplemental update. I don't recall a crash before that supplemental.
Today is 15 days since purchase, so I'm one day past my return window.
{"caused_by":"macos","macos_system_state":"running","bug_type":"210","os_version":"Bridge OS 2.4.1 (15P6805)","timestamp":"2018-08-29 18:33:34.50 +0000","incident_id":"7CE51A17-C3E0-4280-B609-9BDADABF7D6D"}
{
"build" : "Bridge OS 2.4.1 (15P6805)",
"product" : "iBridge2,4",
"kernel" : "Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Fri Jul 6 19:25:51 PDT 2018; root:xnu-4570.71.3~1\/RELEASE_ARM64_T8010",
"incident" : "7CE51A17-C3E0-4280-B609-9BDADABF7D6D",
"crashReporterKey" : "c0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0dec0de0001",
"date" : "2018-08-29 18:33:34.40 +0000",
"panicString" : "panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffff00b773984): macOS watchdog detected\nDebugger message: panic\nMemory ID: 0x6\nOS version: 15P6805\nKernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Fri Jul 6 19:25:51 PDT 2018; root:xnu-4570.71.3~1\/RELEASE_ARM64_T8010\nKernelCache
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Should I install this update or not? I'm confused now
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
What a nonsense.
So because you don't have a problem on a new machine, it's definitely hardware issues. Right. My machine didn't have any problem for a week. So what happened with the SoC? It "just broke"?
I'm observing the thread on forum and from all posts you can conclude one thing: nobody knows **** they talk about.
Clearly the issue isn't as widespread as some suggests. Yes, there are 90 pages of the topic, but some folks, like @StudioSanctum have a lot of posts there – I mean this guy is on almost every ****ing page. Sure there are many visits, but I made there at least 100 visits alone. @StudioSanctum probably doesn't work and stays on this forum whole day and refreshes the website every minute or so.
For example: I had 2 crashes after installing Mojave and downgrading to High Sierra on August, 24th.
I've googled panic string:
"macOSPanicString" : "BAD MAGIC! (flag set in iBoot panic header), no macOS panic log available”
Guess what? There are only 4 search results...
Clearly there are different issues, some have macOS panics, some have bridgeOS panic, in some cases it's related to some extra kexts installed on the OS, in some cases probably it's really hardware issues, maybe bridgeOS 3 isn't fully compatible with High Sierra (because downgrade isn't supported), etc.
Don't get me wrong, I can't work on this **** too. The crash on a new machine is so distracting and pissing off that it's hard to imagine.
Are the 2018 Macbooks Pro ****ed up? YES.
(beside the issues it's really nice machine imo)
Someone responsible for this hardware (or hardware/software integration) should be fired.
But guys, chillout. Instead of wasting time here by finding magical cure for different issues, go on f***ing https://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html or https://bugreport.apple.com/web/ and spam them after each crash you have.
Wait to late September at least if you wan to buy it.
Thanks
Glad for you that you enjoy your Macbooks.
Though why is it that Apple is being sued with a class action lawsuit due to the poor quality of the keyboard.
Also they had problems with the battery.
2018 Macbooks Pros are NOT upgradable (Ram and HD soldered) which makes them more prone failure.
No mag safe
still cannot connect your own iPhone/iPad.
What is the purpose of owning a Macbook if you need to carry an external drive in order to boot from?
USB-C is much better than Magsafe, i've not missed it once and if you're really that useless and clumsy you can buy USB-C connectors with a magnet in them that work just the same.
I can connect my iPhone/iPad just fine to be fair, I just bought the cable - though I never do, I just use the wifi sync feature, im not sure why suddenly the entire MacRumors forum so desperate needs to connect their iPhone to their Mac all the time (I suspect they don't, it's just a moan they like to push out)
Don't care about upgrade-ability, never have, I upgrade every year anyway, but even if I kept it for three years there would be other advancements i'd want on a system that aren't just CPU or RAM related.
I don't carry an external drive around to boot from, I use an deployment OS to boot systems as a Mac admin, it's got nothing to do with the MacBook Pro. Though I assume that means the one thing you do like is the T2 security - or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
It seems that the clueless is you that failed to understand that a computer with soldered components is more prone to failure. That if you are buying an overpriced, underperforming computer, the last thing I need is to go and spend extra money not only to connect other Apple products, but also in dongles to connect basic things like TV/ monitors or basic standard external products.
In addition of the bad quality keyboard design that no one likes and was failing since 2016. I do not think that is not a Pro product. But hey... go ahead and keep buying apple worst design Macbooks ever...
Maybe you should look and some real reviews...