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Apple Says New iMacs Geared Towards Pros Coming Later This Year

Stringing us along....

WTF have they been doing all this time? We're now looking at another 8 months potentially?

"Quick throw them a bone before they all jump ship...". Im surprised they didnt say "theres something magical in the pipeline".

Good that theyre starting to recognize pro users again though.
 
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Loyal users have been kicking and screaming over the lack of Mac hardware. Along comes the Surface Studio, and it's (concept) is eating iMac's lunch.
Maybe 'Reactionary' Tim is finally seeing the light.
 
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macduke said:
Are you freaking kidding me?
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No, not at all, he's the defintion of an uncritical Apple shill.

macduke said:
He honestly critiques Apple. I listen to his podcast all the time.
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Clearly he appeals to you, seeing as you can stand to listen to his podcast, more than 3 minutes. That's great, though it does make your claim that he "critiques" Apple in any meaningful way somewhat suspect.

macduke said:
He's genuine and loves design and the Mac.
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Yes, and that love is uncritical. Hence the inevitable pandering and shilling from him.


macduke said:
He's been critical and posting links to articles about the lack of Mac Pro updates over the past year. In his podcast he sometimes talks about how he can't believe Apple is waiting so long to update and that he's worried for the future of the Mac.
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Which only proves my point, because it's been at least 5 years since most Apple fans started to worry about the future of the Mac. Gruber insisted everything was juuuuust fiiiiine, until very recently.


macduke said:
I've been reading him as long as I've been reading MacRumors, which is around 2005. He's always been an independent guy making his own path.
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OK, I don't doubt you've been reading and listening to Gruber for more than a decade already. That's great, but neither here nor there.

macduke said:
I don't need to "learn any lesson."
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I didn't say you need to.

macduke said:
It's only in recent years that he has been getting special treatment, but even that is limited, and many times he has no idea what's going on and guesses incorrectly or a little off.
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So, he's incredibly reliable and should be listened to, except "many times" as he has no idea what's going on. Okie. Gotcha.

macduke said:
He's a smart guy, and he's right when he always says Apple is a company of patterns. I see the patterns too, and I've made some solid predictions (along with a few misses) over the years here in the forums.
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Sure, but then everyone can do that. Sometimes you'll be right, sometimes you'll be wrong. Doesn't really mean anything.
 
albebaubles said:
I monitor his site daily, he is very insightful. Incredibly talented writer. But my honest assessment is that he's become more of a shill in the last few years. He's not hard enough on Apple. Same with LoopInsight. Marco -- he's the man wish he posted more.
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Well, here's the deal. If you're overly critical, you don't get the scoops. Can't blame him. That being said, I think he is critical enough, and it's constructive criticism, which is something that a lot of people around here probably don't recognize as true criticism with all their whining and no solutions. But constructive criticism the best kind.

I honestly think Apple listens to him to a certain extent, and I also think he often steers the conversation or gives it a bigger microphone when issues arise because I don't often see a lot of stories on MacRumors or 9to5Mac (the bigger sites) until he starts talking about it more and linking to the smaller blogs where users are frustrated. I remember when people were talking about wanting Apple to focus on bug fixes for Mac and iOS, he seemed—at least to me—to play a big role in amplifying that and getting a conversation rolling around the entire tech world about how Apple needs to fix these issues. And Apple responded in kind, and at least anecdotally I've seen 90% of my issues go away and have family and friends complaining to me less. Although for whatever reason my iPad Air 2 stops rotating after a day and I have to reboot it, lol. Probably need to reset settings to clear something out.
 
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Well for the first time in a while, Apple has gotten me excited. It's unprecedented for them to release a "roadmap" like this. Maybe they realized the waiting and wondering about desktops that might not be released or might be discontinued had gone on long enough. I really want a "Pro" iMac so I'll be getting this as soon as it comes out :)
 
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Sasparilla said:
The current version has been through a few revs and had the bugs worked out. If the new one is a different design, the likelihood of gen 1 bugs greatly increases - and they happen for Apple products. So go for the existing one and take pleasure knowing they probably have all the bugs worked out of it for you and it'll last a good long time.

Keep in mind, the latest Intel i5 / i7 processors that are out in the PC world don't really increase their processing speed much at all, except for some clock speed increases on the highest end (gaming) chips (doubt we can even get those in an iMac anyways).

Went to the source article - woah - “If we’ve had a pause in upgrades and updates, we’re sorry for that — what happened with the Mac Pro — and we’re going to come out with something great to replace it.” Nothing this year of course, only an updated iMac, but that might be enough. Hope lives on...I don't have to go to flee to Microsoft...
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I am starting to get into video editing and went back to an iMac because #1 don't wish to use Adobe and rent the software #2 the rest of this stuff is expensive and #3 FCPX is $300 and does everything I'll need it to.

I bought the latest iMac refurbished on eBay (full apple warranty) for $1600. There are some going for $1500 now as well (kinda irritating). This is the higher end i5 with 2TB fusion drive, etc. The bugs have been worked out and the price is quite nice.
 
macfacts said:
The excuse you gave for not using Nvidia (power efficiency) does not line up with reality (imacs don't run on batteries)
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The reason, you mean. Of course you know better than Apple. And Apple chooses AMD, and has for half a decade. I wonder which one of you is wrong.
 
Interested by the form factor reference but essentially Phil is simply preparing the ground for yet more huge price hikes.

In Apple-talk, pro=$$$. And not very worthy dollars based on the recent history of the clowns in charge.
 
I'm willing to bet we're 2 or 3 years away from Apple dumping AMD cards in favor of a new in-house custom high end graphics solutions for both phones and for their macs. I hate to admit because I love AMD, but Nvidia is the performance king right now by a wide margin but Nvidias cost way more. And AMD has better pricing, but they are taking too long to release products which ultimately fail to impress performance wise. Polaris was decent, but only for the midrange at best. A lot of people are saying Vega will be a much more powerful release, but I've heard that kind of stuff before...

Any, you heard it here first, Apple made GPU in 2-3 years.
 
SteveJobzniak said:
There is only one thing that can make me buy a desktop Mac: A touchscreen. Never buying another desktop Mac until that day.
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The day the iMac gets a touchscreen is the day I stop buying iMacs. :(


Rantipole said:
WTF happened to early 2017, which is what they said last fall?
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Apple never said that - analysts said that.


scott911 said:
I wish they would would reconsider making the memory and storage so hard to get to and change.
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Memory is easy enough to change on the 27". As for the 21.5", it's memory is only available in a soldered package.

As for HDDs, if Apple goes all-SSD on the line, they could have a second door with access to the M2 slot. But I expect they won't and the 2018 Mac Pro will be the one for people who want to be able to upgrade over time.
 
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macduke said:
I don't need to "learn any lesson."
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Atlantico said:
I didn't say you need to.
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Oh, you didn't?
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Gruber is the shill. You'll learn that lesson. You'll also learn to doubt him very, very much.
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I'll say it again, are you freaking kidding me? You literally just said that. Nobody can take anything you're saying seriously. You're just making up stuff about Gruber, and then making up stuff about what you just said.
 
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jonnysods said:
Surprised he admits that. Apple are normally pretty mum on this stuff.
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When you wait as long as they do to update, you gotta say something. They really need to get their act together. Are they really blindsided by people not wanting to pay 2017 prices for 2015 technology???
 
I never quite understood the touch screen argument. Just because it supports a touch screen, doesn't mean you have to use it (keep the UI, such that both still work).

Of course, your significant other and your kids will drive you bat5#!^ crazy by walking over and touching your screen.... :D
 
TheTruth101 said:
Prepare to be.... DISAPPOINTED!!!!
Every time Apple launches a new line it takes all the good features away to add some useless ones.
So better to get this latest revision before the next... DISAPPOINTMENT.
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Thats because Apple is about the bottom line and not about the customer.
 
fischersd said:
I never quite understood the touch screen argument. Just because it supports a touch screen, doesn't mean you have to use it (keep the UI, such that both still work).
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The presence of a touchscreen is not the issue - it's everything else that needs to be done to the design to support it.

Look at the Studio - it has hinges to allow you to adjust the screen down so you can lean over it and draw on it. They need to make the screen as light as possible for this so they moved the internal components to the base. And that base needs to be compact so you can drag the machine around the desk so as thermally-constrained as the iMac is, the SS is even more - it uses slower mobile CPUs (desktop class are too hot) and has less expansion ports.


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There is a part of me that thinks that, if they ever release a macOS 11, it will be touch-capable.
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Based on what they said at the event, they're going to better integrate the iPad Pro with the Mac - make it operate like a Wacom Cintiq.
 
1Zach1 said:
Hope I can keep my 2013 iMac up and running that long, it's on it's last legs.
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Just curious, what 2013 iMac do you have? And what do you use it for?

My Late 2012 27" runs great considering the age of it. Sometimes I forget how fast it is until I stop using it a while and only use my 1 year old stupid work Dell laptop with Winblows. When I get back on my iMac, I am amazed at how fast it is.

I did max out on the BTO options like the i7 and graphics, except for RAM, which I upgraded myself to 24GB. I am just wondering what you are doing with you 2013 iMac that makes it on it's last legs.

Actually, my 2006 MacPro still runs really well and my kids use it to play World of Warcraft. Although, I did upgrade a lot of stuff to it over the years.
 
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Sweet "iMac Pro - Same design - Double the Price" thanks Tim. Oh wait they will make it thinner that ALWAYS adds value.
 
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