I’m looking forward to maxing out the spec on the Apple store and seeing how much it is and then not buying it. The amount of people who think this is just an ordinary consumer computer with an Apple premium is incredible.
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Apple Says New Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR Are Coming in September [Updated]
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It's a really backwards way of saying it's a $6000 display that you can have for a bit less if you have a VESA setup or are just ordering a replacement because something unfortunate happened involving the intern, the office cat, and a double espresso.
I'm looking forward to buying a maxed-out Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR, with rack mounting, just to schit-post on MacRumors. Safari will be so snappy, it'll break my neck.
I'd say the entry level Mac Pro is another questionable machine. I don't see anyone buying that without adding some extras. It only becomes a competitive high end machine with better specs. And yeah, the price for that is totally justified then.
Agree...Not including a stand for the monitor is like selling an exotic car with no wheels!
It does some telescoping and (I assume) is made of some very nice materials. Seems excessive to me, but I'm not the target audience.
I would assume that it's left out of the standard SKU for this because Apple has some kind of market research that says a large enough portion of their user base is going to use VESA and stick this thing on a wall or arm mount, so instead of making it $1,000 more expensive for everyone they just sell the stand separate and eat the mocking PR that comes along with it. I'm sure there's a decent segment of companies out there who are planning on picking these things up that are pretty jazzed they don't have to pay $6k for the monitor only to take the stand and stick it in a storage room.
If you recall from the keynote, the types of companies that this is targeted for (companies like Pixar, high-end colorist houses, etc.) certainly will be buying these. For the companies you are referring to in your post, a PC makes more sense. Apple isn't really targeting them. Apple's target market are the companies that want to work on a Mac, but didn't have a viable option beyond the iMac Pro and trash can, both of which are not what they're looking for in 2019/2020.
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Not really. Many professional users have VESA mounts in their workflows, so forcing them to buy the stand would merit additional criticism. Apple should have said the display costs $5,999, but if you don't need the stand, it's $1,000 cheaper (technically $801 because the mount costs $199)
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Your assumption is not quite true. The new Mac Pro is supposed to work fine with regular PCI express cards but the MPX modules provide more horse power than is possible with regular PCI express graphics cards at the moment.
I’m not so sure. Prolly could get away with McDonalds 3X per day if you didn’t mind the 30lb+ weight gain and other health issues.
You sort of have a point, the VESA mount should have been included as standard as that's what most people are going to do with it. Putting that amount of money on the table for the intern to knock off is a bad idea!
Buying 1 entry level MP and 1 monitor and stand. Excited for my future machine.
Yes you've got it. That is just it. Average individuals want a user upgradeable headless mac and since is it not for them (and me), this is the basis of all complaints, remarks and jokes. I just want Apple to make one for the rest of us, where there is no need for 1TB of ram, a dozen GPU's, stainless steel, space frame, etc.
The base model is a terrible deal, no matter which way you look at it.
Came here to ask the same question. However even a stand that costs 10% of the purchase seems rather stupid.
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This literally made me laugh out loud.
One thing people should learn is that the pro display does come with a monitor stand in the box. They won’t sell it to you without a stand... but it’s a basic stand. If you want the pro magnetic stand then you’ll have to pay extra.
More than happy to buy one immediately. Really curious what the price will be with more cores. Used to buy a couple of new Mac Pros every year or two. Haven't bought anything since the 2013 trash can, still running 2010 Mac Pros because we also need PCI cards.
Keep in mind it'll depend entirely on how much of a **** Apple decides to be. You'd need to be able to power any future GPUs, which might prove complicated given Apple's new propietary PCIe system. It's also PCIe 3.0, which is already being phased out in favour of 4.0. Apple has a recent history of making an upgradable Mac Pro, but not creating any new GPUs to upgrade them with so unless you NEED it (or don't care about later upgradeability) it would perhaps be wise to wait and see.
But don't you worry about what you get for such a high price?
I mean, I get that its upgradable, but isn't the base model like an iMac, performance wise?
How is a three year old "meh" GPU and a mid-tier processor for 6K not a terrible deal?
If Apple repeats their six year gap without updates for the MP there will be no MP or trickle down. As for the MBP, the Magic 8 Ball says thinner and higher prices.
Essentially this. It’s like us complaining about the price of an ARRI camera when most of us have no business dealing with one.
This is literally what've been saying too. People who purchase luxury items like BMW and Benz aren't doing it because of the money. Clearly they get value from what these companies are offering. This particular Mac was built for a professional client that will understand and appreciate the value they can get from such a capable machine. They probably don't care about the price, or understand they are receiving great value for that price. All these people out here being haters on a machine they probably would never buy. That's why there are companies like Samsung, LG, Google, Windows making lower-tier phones, computers and other devices for those that find value in those products. There's no need to trash Apple for conducting business.
I'm a plastic surgeon in a major metropolitan where image is everything. I want the shiniest, latest and greatest (and most unattainable) Mac sitting on my desk.
My motives for getting the new MP aren't traditional but I don't care because I can afford it.