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Apple Says 'Privacy Matters' in Humorous New iPhone Ad
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Does anyone really deny that Apple stands up for privacy and security like no other company?
By allowing Facebook and and taking payment from Google? Smoke and mirrors.
Nobody is forcing anyone to use facebook or google. Every safe has a door - nobody is forcing you to leave yours open. But good luck keeping your privacy intact no matter what you choose to install or use on an android device.
I don’t use Android but I know many who do and none of them have had any problems with privacy.
How so? Does any of the PII that apple has collected, flow into Facebook or Google unless you allow it or put it there. Are you advocating that apple should start censoring the internet because other sites have less than honest policies about the handling of your PII that apple has collected?
No, I don’t think Apple should censor the internet, that’s up to us as individual users. I don’t get the Apple cares so much about my privacy worshiping that goes in here with most of you. Some act like making a phone call on an Android phone or doing a Google search has your social security number and bank PIN numbers posted everwhere on the internet.
Nobody has suggested your bank PIN has been posted on the dark web. What Apple is suggesting, imo, is your PII is not collected, analyzed and sold third party concerns for uses you didn't agree to, because the privacy policy didn't specify such activities happen. Nor is your PII analyzed and then given away to targeted ads can be delivered to you, or that you are tracked through the internet as you go from site to site.
Meanwhile in other real news, your network traffic still goes thru your ISP and the Internet. The rhetoric that Apple doesn’t collect data is just their mission statement to make customers confide into their ecosystem.
Yes, it's obvious that once data leaves the phone it's tracks are recorded. But, please continue with the hyperbole.
Actually no NOT done. What you describe is a half-a solution that only works for photos. But Apple doesn’t actually hide them, instead they are simply moved into a folder called “hidden” that anyone who is using your phone can tap into and look at. A folder named “hidden”? Really Apple?
So discrete!Files on the other hand, don’t even seem to be addressed at all with that limited option. No way to hide them. They just sit there showing in the files app.
It’s an entirely inadequate and incomplete solution. On my Samsung phone I could enter a seperate hidden mode where all files I wanted would be. Outside of that mode, the files didn’t exist from a users perspective. They weren’t just moved to a folder that anyone who is using your phone could look at.
Apple needs to do much better here.
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If one installs 3rd party apps, one is at the mercy of the privacy policy of those apps. Apple can’t control what the app developer does with your data once it’s on the interwebs. What apple can control is if those apps have access to your photos and contacts. That much should be obvious. No different than on a windows computer entering information into a website. Microsoft can’t control that.
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Do people honestly think that's an acceptable solution, or are they just trying to be funny?
How about just not answer? It’s possible to let a phone ring and not answer it, you know. You can call them back.
I mean, nobody was bitching at Ma Bell because you couldn’t respond to a ringing phone with Morse code just in case you happened to be taking a crap when the call came in and you didn’t want the caller to hear your toiletry.
there is no privacy using iphone - this is basicly what you just described.
however, apple has created an image that appstore is a safe place, and every apps works sandboxed. appstore clearly isnt a safe place and apple really doesnt check what apps actually do. after letting for years app makers collect personal information, building databases and sell them, apple is suddenly a privacy hero here? no, they only reacted just on last year when companies were on the headlines about privacy issues and i quess they felt that apple may be next on the headlines due to letting devs to do whatever they wanted to do with your information. apple changed the appstore policy just on last year - and now if you only get caught by selling user info, you may be banned from appstore. ”get caught and may be banned”...
it was a good example that letting an app to access your contact details for example to send messages, the app was able to collect all the data linked to that contact info - not only the phone number but photos, name, birthday etc. everything you put on that contact card. if you were storing bank card pins, passwords or such those info were collected aswell.
you are saying that what you put on internet, apple cant control it. that is true, but now we are not talking about internet but apps on the phone and files and information stored locally.
Your missing the point the average consumer does not know how to change there default search engine so the fact that apple keeps google as the default search on ios just show that don't really care that much about privacy it's just that there business model doesn't require much data collection.google actually earns more mobile revenue off of ios than android what does that tell you.most users don't change there default search engine and there marketing privacy to the average consumer
And no one has to download them. It’s real simple. Then people bitch about the walled garden. Make up your minds.
No that's what you want to say, not the reality of it.
This is not an all of nothing proposition, which is what you are making it. One bad "app" does not mean there is an "illusion" of privacy. This also isn't about apps, its about Apple not using your data against it's privacy policy. Apple will protect the data you gave apple, but it can't protect the data you give the apps. (It can also enforce the devs tos, which it has been doing)
Do you put credit cards in your contact wallet? I don't. But it's a good reminder that if you grant access the app has access. There is nothing wrong that. So be beware before you say yes. Otherwise, the point still stands. Apple protects your PII. It's you who let's it go.
El oh el. Another person who’s completely missed the point and is deliberately ignoring Apple’s doublespeak.
You don’t get to sit there and lecture about how much you value privacy when you’re taking kickbacks from the same company you crow about and demonize for privacy violations.
It doesn’t matter if you can change the default. It doesn’t matter if it’s the “logical thing to do”. That’s nothing more than deflection.
You don’t get to sit there and lecture about how much you value privacy when you’re taking kickbacks from the same company you crow about and demonize for privacy violations.
It doesn’t matter if you can change the default. It doesn’t matter if it’s the “logical thing to do”. That’s nothing more than deflection.