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Apple Says Spotify Wants 'Limitless Access' to App Store Tools Without Paying
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This argument only works without caveat if Apple doesn't release Apple Music. It is a special case. It's perhaps the biggest attempt to Sherlock an app short of Maps, and it's the biggest that requires a subscription fee.
You're not wrong -- Spotify should pay something. But they're right to think Apple isn't playing fair. Think of all the places Apple Music is privileged in ways that no other music service is. Payments, services bundles, much easier integration with HomePod & Siri. They don't have to pay Spotify 30%.
It isn't a fair playing field. Apple asked for this, fair or unfair, when it entered the streaming market.
finally somebody with common sense!
Sounds like all websites should give 30% of their ad revenue to Apple since people are accessing them on an iPhone. 🙂
Seriously, Apple has absolutely nothing to do with the service provided by Spotify. All of the Apple servers in the world could experience an outage at the same time and Spotify would still function on your iPhone because the service is provided by Spotify. Why does Apple think they deserve any piece of this at all?
If apple complains Spotify are spongers, just let people have 3rd party stores! (Without fees designed to prevent their existence)
If Apple wants to charge for access to its "tools", then they should charge for access to its tools, not charge a commission on what you make with the tools.
Or, give the developer a choice: they can pay a flat upfront fee for "access", or charge a commission from sales.
Or, give the developer a choice: they can pay a flat upfront fee for "access", or charge a commission from sales.
Spotify could make the only access on an iPhone through a web browser and they would not have to pay Apple anything at all, not even the $99 developer fee. If they want to use Apple's IP, which is required to make an app for iOS, then they should have to pay like everyone else.
Apple can choose to run their business how they want. And every developer on the planet has a choice. iOS is not the only platform to develop on. Developers CHOOSE to develop for iOS.
Because most people that buy iOS devices are happy with the way Apple runs. If they were not, Apple would be loosing money, but they keep selling craploads of iOS devices with everyone buying one knowing about the walled garden.
Apple is extremely successful, their userbase is passionate, and that shows that the path they are on is correct; we are all happy with this arrangement.
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Maybe Spotify should allow ad-based users without limiting Japanese users to 18 hours of use. I don't feel sorry for them. They are just as bad.
Developer tools are free. Get educated.
Apple and all big USA tech need to leave the EU. Let them have the crap from China. The EU ONLY goes after US tech companies because they aren't smart enough or capable of making anything worth buying. They are protecting their own.
The price is $99 because that is what Apple decided. It is not the developer's fault if Apple offers a service with a negative margin. This is a business decision that subsidizes some developers, and on average it works.
There are many examples were developers pay nothing but the annual fee, and yet Apple doesn't seem to complain about them:
- ex: Uber. Millions of people download the Uber app. It gets regular updates. But Apple does not charge any commission on physical goods/services, so they get ... $99.
- ex: Flappy Bird was a free game with no IAPs. But it was full of ads, which Apple doesn't get any share of, so they get... $99
I am very well educated. Apple developer account is free. But you have to sign-up for a $99 USD/yearly membership. If you want to distribute your app to the app store. You have to pay $99 USD every year.
Spotify wants access to artists without paying them their fair share of the revenue.Apple wants access to the market in the EU without paying its fair share in taxes.
Apple Takes on EU’s Vestager in Record $14 Billion Tax Fight
Apple Inc. fights the world’s biggest tax case in a quiet courtroom this week, trying to rein in the European Union’s powerful antitrust chief ahead of a potential new crackdown on internet giants.www.bloomberg.com
"Dependency" was used loosely. The problem is one can't pick and choose the apps/services from different platforms. Say, you got used to some app on one platform. If you switch to another platform, you may lose this app. So there are barriers to switching (in addition to costs). To help the customers deal with this, the government needs to come up with the regulation to prevent abuse. If there is just one grocery store in a location, any other chain/businessman can open another store. You can't open another app store for iOS hence the need for regulation.
You mean, people do it? Not only would you have to use a browser, it would have to be a crippled Apple browser which may or may not work on a given web site (and I suspect it would not work with Spotify web site properly).
Keep moving those goalposts — you’ll convince someone someday 😂
app distribution service is provided by Apple.
app review service is provided by Apple.
developer tools is provided by Apple.
push notification services provided by Apple.
billing/billing support services provided by Apple.
if Spotify didn't want any of that, they can build a web version which Apple deserves $0. oh wait, they did.
not hard to understand.