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Apple enabled apps by building the phone and the surrounding infrastructure to support apps.
The cost of this is included into the price of the phone and the price of the developers tools. How do you think computer manufacturers get profits without having their app stores? The fact that Apple has such high profits indicates just that - they overcharge (double dip if you wish). Also, everybody should be paid only for what they do. If Apple wants to charge for tool development and app hosting -that's fine. But why should they be paid based on the content distribution? Content is paid for and hosted/distributed by Spotify. Apple contributes exactly nothing to it, yet they get paid for it anyways. They are the parasites.
 
why should apple get to have their own music service with much lower cost and price spotify out of the market?

why should Google be able to advertise for free on their own search engine for free?
why should Meta be able to advertise their Quest VR devices for free on their Facebook site for free?
why should NBC be able to advertise their own new shows on their own network for free?
why should Samsung be able to advertise their own watches on their TVs for free?
 
The cost of this is included into the price of the phone and the price of the developers tools.


nope. iPhone SE is $429 with 5 years of updates. it does not pay for tens/hundreds of apple services/products provided to developers for free (Apple Maps/CloudKit/push notifications/etc...)

$99/year barely pays for a few hours of App reviewers time. Spotify submitted 40+ updates, exceeding the $99/year budget easily. Google Maps alone charges thousands/month for high volume users. Facebook gets to use Apple Maps for free for their billions of users.
 
Apple has carefully considered what they believe is fair compensation for the services they offer to developers. I tend to trust their judgment on what is the correct decision to make there.
 
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App Store reviewer makes, what? $20/hr? one submission is about 30 min work?
At their reported daily quotas of 50-100 apps to review, I sure hope it doesn’t take 30 minutes.
are their primary product offerings digital or physical?

basic question.
Why should there be a difference in commissions or allowed payment methods between the two?
Why can developers promote offers for physical goods sold outside - but not digital ones?

Basic questions.

I mean… digital downloads are cheaper to deliver than physical goods - and have marginal costs approaching zero.
 
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why should Google be able to advertise for free on their own search engine for free?
why should Meta be able to advertise their Quest VR devices for free on their Facebook site for free?
why should NBC be able to advertise their own new shows on their own network for free?
why should Samsung be able to advertise their own watches on their TVs for free?
Terrible analogies. No other search engines, social media sites, TV networks or watch makers are FORCED to ONLY advertise and distribute their goods on Google, Meta, NBC, or Samung (respectively). Spotify is a competitor to Apple. You left that out of your analogies.
 
why should Google be able to advertise for free on their own search engine for free?
why should Meta be able to advertise their Quest VR devices for free on their Facebook site for free?
why should NBC be able to advertise their own new shows on their own network for free?
why should Samsung be able to advertise their own watches on their TVs for free?
Because Google is the one providing service? How much did you pay for Google Search? As much as you paid for iPhone? You own the iPhone, not Apple. Why Apple is getting paid for everything that's happening on your device? What's next? You buy a TV in Wal-Mart and then you have to pay them a fee for every streaming service you watch on it?
 
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You download the app so that you CAN be a paying customer.
stupid logic.

your logic was that Spotify is so well known before downloading the app. If they were so well known, customers don't switch off from their desktop/web just to sign up on the least comfortable device for inputting data.
 
First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.


I‘ve hardly ever seen Apple fighting another company publicly with words as fiercely in this instance.
A stark contrast to their usual very muted public communication - if not (very often) refusal to comment.
 
no government has defined laws for "general compute platform" in that they have to be "open" so far.

only EU has defined "gatekeepers" which is not the same as "general compute platform". now what?
They did not create the laws for it yet. It's time they did. They are working on it. In fact, some regulations do exist (they do not have to be laws). For example, government requires that all smart phones properly handled 911 calls.
 
They did. Apple have appealed it to death as you would expect.

They are happy to freeload when it suits but heaven forbid someone has a mobile app and doesn't pay them rent.
No it's called smart tax planing. This was perfectly legal and devised by Tax Attorneys. If one is a big corporation, it behooves you to pay top dollar to international Tax Attorneys and Accounting firms. It's not just Apple that did this.

What Apple and other corporations did is perfectly legal to the point that new regulations are being proposed to mitigate this. In the world of global taxation, think of it as a game of cat and mouse. One thing closes, another thing opens. Before Ireland, we had the Swiss, Bahamas etc. Its all a game.
 
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The government decides when one company begins to exert too much power and influence over its people. Somehow I don't think Xbox or Nintendo qualify for that.
"general compute platform" is not the same as a company that "exerts too much power"

the argument OP was making was that Switch is not a "general compute platform".
 
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