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Passing along the cost to the customer, for things that are already in orbit pricing, instead of taking a bit of a margin hit on crazy high margin products, while blaming orange man seems like a really good political and economic play. I'm not being sarcastic either:

Get more of their money, and foster even more resentment towards this administration and let that manifest itself towards anyone who doesn't equally hate it with a passion.

Win-win for corporate backed resistance!
 
I was thinking more like...

Or...

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When someone comes in and makes changes so simple and straightforward that solves problems that no one has managed to deal with for decades there are either two things happening:

They are liars.
Or they are liars.

I’m just waiting for a few years down the line when everyone is wondering how they fell for it all... Steve Carell with a blonde comb over?
 
This whole tariff thing is one of the stupidest things Trump has done in office, other than obstructing justice to the point that he’ll immediately be indicted once he’s no longer in office.

Hopefully he stops monkeying around with the economy like this before driving us into a recession.

Oh stop watching MSNBC. Trump has done and said some pretty stupid things but what you listed are just hysterical left hopes and dreams. Trump will NEVER be indicted. When he’s done in office he will just fade away and we will be onto the next person half the country loves and half the country hates.
 
You trust a man that has told over 10,000 falsehood, misleading statements, or just straight up LIES since he has been in office? For comparison, Obama credited for 18 in 8 years.

You also trust a man who has filed for bankruptcy 4 TIMES. Great businessman there.....

Credited for 18 by the Fake News Media?...just like Biden says they had no scandals. Funny stuff.
 
There is no action Drumpf has taken that makes him trustworthy. Indeed, all the demonstrable evidence shows the exact opposite.

To be fair he has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do if he won. Seems he was honest about his plans and goals from where I’m sitting.
 
Mass shootings, opioid deaths, budget deficit, national debt, education, stagnant wages. What "faction" is great? Wake up.

Mass shootings: unrelated
opioid deaths: unrelated
national debt: Dems want even more
illegal immigration: Dems want even more
education: unrelated
stagnant wages: fake news, they are up over inflation and moreso in lower economic labor
home ownership: all time high
black unemployment: all time high
hispanic unemployment: all time high
female unemployment: all time high
4.6 million off food stamps since taking office
stock market: incredible
Most regulations cut ever
Small business optimism: all time high
5 million jobs created
Left Iran Nuclear deal: Thank God
Left Paris Climate Agreement: Thank God

Let's add how GDP has been going: Incredible.

And that just scratches the surface. And if you ask what Obama did in 8. lol laughter.
 
Wait a minute here, you are saying that the economy has these tariffs to thank? After just a few weeks? Do you have any clue how an economy works?!
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Nobody is saying anything of the sort. Securing the country has nothing to do with tariffs, not sure why I'm even bothering replying. But this is where they've gotten you, you'll support stupid nonsense in the name of security. Remember that quote everyone was throwing around after 9/11?

I agree tax incentives would have been a better move but at least someone is trying to do something for once. Ill advised methodology but better than the status quo so far which is back to your stance "everything is cool as long as we can compete on price point". Sad.
 
'Fake News' = terminology used by people who would rather close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears and believe what they want to believe, instead of accepting the demonstrable facts.

Like the facts that Hillary Clinton should be indicted for illegal activity? Or maybe we should open a couple dozen more investigations into how she willingly accepted damaging information on her opponent from foreign sources since now that’s apparently the worst crime in the world... how about we look at the fact that the Obama justice department lied to FISA judges and used known false information to launch an investigation into the opposing party’s rising candidate because they realized they were going to lose the coming election... you’re right. Facts matter. The media isn’t doing it’s job when it’s only focused on the people it doesn’t like. That’s why so many people cry fake news. Because it’s so obviously biased and one sided that it’s not taken seriously anymore.
 
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Like the facts that Hillary Clinton should be indicted for illegal activity? Or maybe we should open a couple dozen more investigations into how she willingly accepted damaging information on her opponent from foreign sources since now that’s apparently the worst crime in the world... how about we look at the fact that the Obama justice department lied to FISA judges and used known false information to launch an investigation into the opposing party’s rising candidate because they realized they were going to lose the coming election... you’re right. Facts matter. The media isn’t doing it’s job when it’s only focused on the people it doesn’t like. That’s why so many people cry fake news. Because it’s so obviously biased and one sided that it’s not taken seriously anymore.

Well said.
 
Like the facts that Hillary Clinton should be indicted for illegal activity? Or maybe we should open a couple dozen more investigations into how she willingly accepted damaging information on her opponent from foreign sources since now that’s apparently the worst crime in the world... how about we look at the fact that the Obama justice department lied to FISA judges and used known false information to launch an investigation into the opposing party’s rising candidate because they realized they were going to lose the coming election... you’re right. Facts matter. The media isn’t doing it’s job when it’s only focused on the people it doesn’t like. That’s why so many people cry fake news. Because it’s so obviously biased and one sided that it’s not taken seriously anymore.

Wow. That world salad was just one massive logical fallacy. Care to try again? And this time try staying on topic.
 
Being American naturally I want America to succeeed. When others want their country to succeed it’s perfectly fine. But When it’s America, it’s somehow offensive and totally out of line And requires relentless apology and explanation.

I don’t prescribe to this

Why *distinctly* you ask? America is only the leader of Western society. If America collapses, freedom as you know or understand it internationally will Eventually follow

Not that many people outside of America consider it a ‘leader’ at all, and I think we will all be fine when [not if] it collapses. They all do. I look to the east now not west for the future and it is far too later to try and compete with China.
 
Reducing ILLEGAL immigration, pushing back on China’s IP theft, stepping up the action taken against ISIS, waking up the rest of NATO so they would pay a more fair share into it... yeah totally horrible plans and goals...
Honestly?

It's not the goals, it's the execution that dooms this administration.
 
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