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Apple Says 'We Won't Make an Exception' for Epic Games in App Store Dispute
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Woah, I suggest don’t wait for having both ready to launch. “More productor than blender” is quite the statement and I would love to see that happening.
Besides the issue is only for gaming, for production tools the Mac ecosystem is alive and well. Devs are constantly publishing iOS games with Mac dev tools, where I work for included. I was using Bootcamp 75% of the time and hitting back and forth both OS’s until one day decided to just kick it and embrace Mac... I regret not doing it sooner. Nothing changed for me, Blender, Photoshop, After Effects/Motion/FCPX are all there. They “feel” better with the neat windows management of OSX, all the satellite apps that can be gotten from the AppStore to increase productivity.
I got my eye on Shapr3D as I have seen some devs starting to use it.
TLDR; game on! Don’t let these news hold it back.
It's not open and shut, not even close. It seems many of you either aren't paying attention or ignoring the fact that Apple was just in front of Congress for the reasons Epic is going after them for.
They aren't all getting the same treatment now, it's been pointed out multiple times throughout this thread.
Another "they can just do what they want"
No, they can't just do what they want and just in case you missed it, Apple was recently in front of Congress for these very reasons. Stop the insane defending, it's quite gross.
No, they aren't 🙄
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Epic gives away free games weekly ranging from $15-$60. 🤷🏻♂️
It worries me that people are supporting an obvious strategized attack on iOS ecosystem to put a hole in the security through social engineering. This is a well crafted plan.
This is nothing about IAPs. This is about Epic wanting to gather user data for themselves through their own store.
It is clear that Epic is doing this not for a mere argument of payments. It's about breaking the iOS ecosystem and forcing in a 3rd party app store to circumvent all privacy and security blocks that Apple has implemented.
Its not "services make up a huge part of sales now". Apple has always done those (low storage, non-removable mac components etc) for years and years, even when Steve Jobs was still here. Clearly the average consumer who's not tech savvy doesnt mind, as Apple's sales have continued to skyrocket despite these business practises
I advise you not to get fooled by some of the users such as i7guy in the thread who naively think other brands of the store can be comparable in violating antitrust law.
APPLE is a lot more troublesome with no other alternative app store and forced the developer to pay 30% fees by restricting it from using third party payment methods for purchasing subscriptions or in-app purchases.
APPLE is a lot more troublesome with no other alternative app store and forced the developer to pay 30% fees by restricting it from using third party payment methods for purchasing subscriptions or in-app purchases.
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And if you looked at the way Apple was grilled (or rather, the lack thereof), it’s clear that Congress doesn’t exactly know what to make of the iOS App Store or how to go about regulating it, much less if it even needs regulating in the first place.
The hearings was a thinly-veiled attempt to target Facebook, Google and Amazon and Apple was there just to show that the government was targeting all tech companies equally.
So yes, laws do exist, and from what I have seen, Apple hasn’t exactly broken any of them, in the US at least.
Apple doesn’t have dominant market share in any of the markets that they operate in, they are not in collusion with Google (so nothing wrong with the current duopoly), and it’s unclear if simply asserting that Apple has a monopoly on iPhones is enough to trigger antitrust lawsuits (just about every company can be said to have a monopoly in the product they are selling). 30% is the industry norm, and it’s not a crime to be good at what you do. Epic isn’t exactly helping their case with their grandstanding and their ambitions of having their own App Store on iOS, which kinda muddies their original message of wanting to ensure a more level playing field for the little guy.
I can’t think of a clearer message to send to Apple that they can pretty much continue with what they have always been doing without fear of repercussions.
No they weren't, they were there because of their behavior and whether it warrants further inquiries. All four are very powerful.
Exactly, they are a significant amount of people who failed to grasp that the policy on the app store implemented by Apple is indeed violating the antitrust law with no optional way for the developer and the customer to use third party payment method for buying a subscription or in-app purchases.
calling it a monopoly is also an opinion
Any day now, one of you keepers of the braintrust are going to suggest suing Ford because GM parts don't fit Ford vehicles. How outrageous! 
Apple's competition for the iOS app store is called Android and the Google Play store.
Mark
Apple's competition for the iOS app store is called Android and the Google Play store.
Mark
Congress don't know what they're talking about - see their chat with Zuck on Facebook.
If you want to write apps for the iPhone and not run through the App Store then make them javascript/web hosted as the iPhone was actually originally intended to be developed for.
You want to use the iOS frameworks, etc. for a native app, you pay the fees required.
apple still controls the api’s to build apps with. That is what enforces the security and privacy. It isn’t the appstore’s review process.
How can Apple ensure developers don't abuse the API's if they can have their apps on a 3rd part app store?
I get it seem arbitrary I am not sure it does
Keep in mind Uber offers a service in the real world and not at the digital space
now I am not saying that it doesn’t look bad
It looks REALLY bad, and feel scammy and that’s why the policies and guidelines need to be better like yesterday but at the same time people are jumping on the arbitrary notion way too quickly
but maybe I’m wrong I’m sure you’ll find an app that sells real life goods with IAP Wouldn’t put it past Apple
The press is not the law, and don’t represent the sentiment on the ground. It’s not the first time the press has been negative about Apple, and it won’t be the last.
You know the App Store is not a product it is not a commodity nor a service per say it is more of a feature Then anything
while the service part angle is frankly the most easy to grasp and hard to let go
the App Store does not stand alone it is a feature of the iOS platform that could be of service to you but also may not many people out there don’t install 3rd party apps
Not for security reasons but because they just don’t
but hey that could be just me rambling on at 3am