What
What's an alternative to App Store on iOS?
Why does there need to be an alternative?
What
What's an alternative to App Store on iOS?
Why does there need to be an alternative?
I am pretty sure It varies worldwide and I guess in us aswellPlot twist: There's only two or three chains of bars that sell drinks in the whole country.
7% on average, in the US.*
Seems fair enough.
* I googled it up couple of days ago
Not all games use servers thoughI think what the real issue Epic is trying to show is, if an app were to cost $0.99 to purchase, Apple gets $0.31 and the dev gets the rest.
Ok that's cool and all, but forcing purchases for extra items from within a game hurts the dev since they have to go through Apple payments. Apple takes 30% of those transactions and the dev gets what's left.
Ok, you host the app in your store, you can have 30% of the sale of the app and that is what the host should get, they shouldn't have to hand over 30% of in game transactions to any host as they hosted the purchase of the initial product, anything else inside the app should be directly to the dev.
It's double dipping. "Because we allowed the game on our stores but the servers for play are elsewhere, and development happens outside of Apple, we should get 30% of EVERY transaction cause we only allow payments through our payment method, yours is not allowed as we wouldn't be able to get that additional residual income on all future in game purchases.
Now you see why Apple is a trillion dollar company, they know how to con people very well, and now someone is calling them out on their practices which makes them the bad guy....
I'm not an Epic fan, wouldn't matter who was fighting Apple, I see what they mean and I get why they're fighting for a change.
It’s not about should...Apple didn’t even originally want the App Store. True adherents to the intended Apple way use a one-handed screen with only stock Apple apps and web apps! We know this is true because Apple said it before! Why should they change? Why should anyone change?
Just another thing Apple dictates, the browser engines and search providers. It’s also something that needs to be fixed by laws and freed.There is an alternative, it's called building your app as a web app.
The App Store was never originally going to exist, the iPhone is designed to be able to run web apps quickly.
You can pin a webpage to the home screen as a web app - this is how it was originally designed to work.
The App Store was added very late in development, if I recall even after the original iPhone's release.
I love to see Apple fans support anti-competiveness. That kind of support is why we still have flash, after all, so it fits right into Apple's forward thinking ideals in an inverse way.
Imagine where the internet would be today if Internet Explorer hadn't dominated browsers. Imagine where gaming could go without Apple clawing it back.
Just another thing Apple dictates, the browser engines and search providers. It’s also something that needs to be fixed by laws and freed.
I love to see Apple fans support anti-competiveness. That kind of support is why we still have flash, after all, so it fits right into Apple's forward thinking ideals in an inverse way.
Imagine where the internet would be today if Internet Explorer hadn't dominated browsers, being the last to adopt new standards, keeping HTML5 and the like as novelties for far too long. Imagine where gaming could go without Apple clawing it back.
Tim Cook's Apple will always favor profit over innovation, even if it means fighting tooth-and-nail against the latter. He's turning Apple into the Microsoft of the next decade. A profitable company, but a leader in nothing.
Out with the Chief Operations Officer!
Develop a web app and you can circumvent any restriction Apple put on the App Store all you want. You can also advertise to your users that your app is only available to side load on Android. If you want to use the App Store, then it’s your decision to agree with the policies. If you think your product is so superior, then ditch iOS users. If your product was truly superior, users will follow you and buy a different phone.Exactly, they are a significant amount of people who failed to grasp that the policy on the app store implemented by Apple is indeed violating the antitrust law with no optional way for the developer and the customer to use third party payment method for buying a subscription or in-app purchases.
There are a lot of limitations with a web app compared to a native app.Develop a web app and you can circumvent any restriction Apple put on the App Store all you want. You can also advertise to your users that your app is only available to side load on Android. If you want to use the App Store, then it’s your decision to agree with the policies. If you think your product is so superior, then ditch iOS users. If your product was truly superior, users will follow you and buy a different phone.
Most likely pseudo techies and stock holders....they care two hoots about competition or collaboration. It has been always revenues, bottom lines, cut, commissions, profit....et al all synonymous to accounting than technologyI love to see Apple fans support anti-competiveness. That kind of support is why we still have flash, after all, so it fits right into Apple's forward thinking ideals in an inverse way.
Shareholders never like the idea of reduced erningsSeeing people being against Apple cut their share from 30% to 15% is insane to me. Who would protectic a multi billion dollar company that does tax evasion because you get turned on by grey aluminum. I'm flappergast.
Epic gives away free games weekly ranging from $15-$60. 🤷🏻♂️
I advise you not to get fooled by some of the users such as i7guy in the thread who naively think other brands of the store can be comparable in violating antitrust law.
APPLE is a lot more troublesome with no other alternative app store and forced the developer to pay 30% fees by restricting it from using third party payment methods for purchasing subscriptions or in-app purchases.
I never explicitly implied it was, but clearly the government has an issue with them 🙄calling it a monopoly is also an opinion
Actually industry norm would be the higher volume you do, the cheaper it gets.
See any provider of cloud resources, it gets cheaper per unit the more you buy.
Another "they can just do what they want"
No, they can't just do what they want and just in case you missed it, Apple was recently in front of Congress for these very reasons. Stop the insane defending, it's quite gross.
Yay, more stupid analogies! You can buy parts from multiple companies for any car 🙄Any day now, one of you keepers of the braintrust are going to suggest suing Ford because GM parts don't fit Ford vehicles. How outrageous!
Apple's competition for the iOS app store is called Android and the Google Play store.
Mark
You and others have very CLEARLY said it's their store and they can do what they want, now you're just lying. And it's not JUST epic that has a problem with this, other developers do but have been afraid to speak and we can see why and now Congress is looking at them. To say otherwise is just lying.🙄It didn't say 'whatever' Apple wanted.
Apple charges 30%.
Epic don't want to pay it.
Nice and clear for you.
Corporations don't like giving other corporations money. Newsflash. Then set up your own store and charge what you like.
If they don't like the 30% go to another supplier.
Azrael.
The people with real money pay no taxes at all, but that’s not the discussion.My proposal would support the startups and individual contributors a lot better. Epic is not using a service more. They're making more profit. If what you're proposing would be applied to taxes, the richer you get, the less taxes you'd pay and all the janitors and garbage collectors would pay a 45% tax? Doesn't sound right to me... Service providers of cloud resources also often offer a free/very cheap tier for startups and individual contributors.