Which T-Mobile did 8 YEARS AGO with the FIRST Android Phone...
"Confirmed: T-Mobile G1 has no 3.5mm headphone jack"
https://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/confirmed-t-mobile-g1-has-no-3-5mm-headphone-jack/
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Apple Says 'You're Only as Good as the Last Thing You Did' Amid Sales Slowdown
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Which T-Mobile did 8 YEARS AGO with the FIRST Android Phone...
"Confirmed: T-Mobile G1 has no 3.5mm headphone jack"
https://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/confirmed-t-mobile-g1-has-no-3-5mm-headphone-jack/
Putting engineering and marketing resources into the Mac Pro at this time is probably a net loss for Apple considering how slow it must sell. Apple is probably deciding if they even want to keep it around before they go and plow money into it. Tim Cook is just doing what most CEOs do and that is focus on the products that have the best return for investment. Jobs was more of a visionary, whereas Cook is more of typical CEO that focuses on shareholder value and profit margin. Mac Pro (or most Macs for that matter) have a much lower profit margin then iPhone. I can't really blame them for focusing on the product line that makes the most money.
funny, i remember reading this and many other headline and article's stating the exact same thing between 95-2015.
always the same thing "apple is doomed"
my favorite was from a certain tech magazine publication that, ironically, is no longer in business, that Apple's rumored move into the cell phone industry would spell utter destruction for the company, and that companies like black berry and motorola would be "picking up the pieces" of apple's would be failed trivial attempt at over turning the cellular industry.
i guess we will see
That's a ham-fisted way of looking at things.
- Nobody has good TV content packages. It's not Apple's fault; the people who own the rights are digging their heels in. What did Apple do instead? They created the AppleTV. It's early days, but the product is already quite successful and they are building the most attractive platform for TV out of anybody.
- Apple Watch took a long time? Do you know how long the iPhone took to develop? Can you appreciate the amount of work that is required to get a computer of that processing power in to a device you can wear on your wrist and that will still have battery life by the end of the day? I don't see anybody doing a better job of pushing that market forward than Apple is.
As Eddy Cue says in the interview, they are not perfect, and they never claimed to be. They can't just leapfrog 3,4 or 5 years of R&D like they were time-travellers. They try their best to create the best products they can, and for all their faults, they have a fleet of products which are all basically at the cutting-edge.
funny, i remember reading this and many other headline and article's stating the exact same thing between 95-2015.
always the same thing "apple is doomed"
my favorite was from a certain tech magazine publication that, ironically, is no longer in business, that Apple's rumored move into the cell phone industry would spell utter destruction for the company, and that companies like black berry and motorola would be "picking up the pieces" of apple's would be failed trivial attempt at over turning the cellular industry.
i guess we will see
"Apple is Doomed" is different than "The Macintosh is Doomed"...
Apple seems to be touting "The PC is Doomed", hence look at the lineup and the product refreshes...
and hey if yearly iPhone upgrades and apple watch releases bolster up the billions of their floating cash, more power too them, hopefully in the long run, they use the excess iPhone money to help update the mac's or maybe even cut intel out of the picture completely and put a good chunk aside at making their own chips for their computers as well.
A non-Intel mac might work for home use, but not for many professional work as software compatibility will be a huge issue.
the point is still the same, people always say the company or its products are doomed, and then those same people go and buy the new iPhone.
I'm not saying apple is making the best decisions, but they are not completely throwing it out the window either.
and the fact that it was still "macintosh is Doomed" yet here we are in 2016 with how many "mac" computers in their line up?
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true.
This Apple narrative is slowly costing them money, they just don't know it yet. By steadfastly living in denial and believing their own hype, Apple is paying the price.
Doomed? Not a chance.
Limiting the growth of their gross profits? Absolutely!
Exactly! Also, the convoluted product lineup Apple nows offers is reminiscent of the 1990s marketing run Apple that had to be rescued by Jobs.
Doomed = Going Away...
The Mac won't be going away. Just a "re-birthing" as rumors (I can't find it now) that Apple's Macintosh line will go to their Ax Processors and iOS....
That could be very possible with the iPad Pro being the "PC replacement".
You start to wonder.
When the iPod with A9 came out, I thought, wow, add a phone chip and you have an iPhone 6c! It would replace my iPhone 5c (which I love).
What does Apple do? They take a 5S and throw the A9 in that for the "SE"...
Really, Apple? Seriously?
Definitely Apple is the new "Super-Status Symbol" and very precise "culture".
I managed to get an interview at an Apple Store recently (again).
Needless to say, the 2 male Managers had beards and lots of tattoos. Talking about hobbies, theirs was like "Trekking in Nepal" and "Snowboarding in the Rockies".
I'm lucky if I can find the time and money to go to Wisconsin...
Didn't get that job... nor will I ever be applying again.
Apple is no longer "For the rest of us...."
Nvidia Shield TV makes the Apple TV look like a joke though. Well, actually, it is a joke.
I don't think Apple was the only PPC user, didn't Nintendo use them on a few of their consoles?
Indeed, under Cook Apple's products have become increasingly US-centric, as demonstrated by the one year delay in getting international smart keyboards out for the iPad pro, the lack of Siri support in ATV 4 in pretty much all but the English speaking countries, the lack of sensibility for non "always on" or "flatrate" data environments, long delays in getting products out the doors in non US territory, not understanding the viewer preferences in iTunes for multilingual countries etc.
Apple used to cater very specifically to their international markets. Nowadays you either like what eorks for the US or you leave it.
Apple used to cater very specifically to their international markets. Nowadays you either like what eorks for the US or you leave it.
Actually, Tony, I think you're the majority and your comment is very accurate. And most of the people who bother to come to rumors sites (myself included) are geeks or tech junkies or "power users", whatever that means. And for most of the user base in the world, an iPad is the greatest device ever, I use mine a ton and my dad is ditching his iMac because he never looks at it any more.
The problem is, I can't write code on on an iPad, I can't run virtual machines on it, I can't connect it to a physical LAN to get true Gb network speed for big file transfers, I can't run "real" photoshop or lightroom, and I have no control over file system management - just to identify a few of many shortcomings. So yep, I can access cloud storage (with limited scope of what I can do there) and I can run email, browser, and productivity apps. But my computing requirements far exceed that set of tasks and if Apple won't update their hardware for macOS, I'll run Windows (while complaining about it because HiDPI Windoze is a disaster!).
So you're very right, most people don't need that functionality. But if you want to develop for iOS, you HAVE to run a Mac and when all of their machines are 2+ years old, who wants to buy that? So geeks don't buy Macs since AAPL has essentially abandoned them, therefore geeks don't develop for iOS any more, therefore in a few years the state of the app store will start to look pretty sad, and then Tim's beloved iOS devices will have no decent apps to run and Tim can hope some golden goose comes along and lays another iPod for them.
This is a slow, painful decline, ask Blackberry fans about it. They've experienced this since Steve first walked out on stage with an iPhone, and it's still going on.
The word that I haven't seen yet in this thread that comes to mind is "toxic". Yes, updates to a lot of Apple's products are delayed. Yes, I am really eager to see them arrive too. But a faction of commenters here on MacRumors have taken that as their license to complain endlessly on every single story about how Apple is horrible now and Tim should be dead and Steve should be reanimated.
The difference between these folks, and someone on a drunken rampage is, the next morning the formerly drunk person will generally apologize profusely for their behavior and feel ashamed of it. But these folks spewing toxic sludge into every thread here... if they finally get, say, a shiny new MacBook Pro that they love, in two months, or six months, or whatever, I have no false hope that they'll come back here and apologize profusely for being such dicks and yelling over every thread for months on end.
MacRumors could post a (somehow Apple-related) story about "Puppies are adorable", and it'd get 100+ comments from people angry they still don't have a new computer/phone/widget today (which is entirely different from the seven stories yesterday on which they bitingly commented that they still didn't have a new computer/phone/widget yesterday). It's getting to where it's hard to discuss the actual content of a story - the intended purpose for these forums - because of all the bitching/moaning/whining negativity one has to wade through to find the comments that are actually about the story, rather than yet more toxic whining. And it's kind of killing the MacRumors forums.
The difference between these folks, and someone on a drunken rampage is, the next morning the formerly drunk person will generally apologize profusely for their behavior and feel ashamed of it. But these folks spewing toxic sludge into every thread here... if they finally get, say, a shiny new MacBook Pro that they love, in two months, or six months, or whatever, I have no false hope that they'll come back here and apologize profusely for being such dicks and yelling over every thread for months on end.
MacRumors could post a (somehow Apple-related) story about "Puppies are adorable", and it'd get 100+ comments from people angry they still don't have a new computer/phone/widget today (which is entirely different from the seven stories yesterday on which they bitingly commented that they still didn't have a new computer/phone/widget yesterday). It's getting to where it's hard to discuss the actual content of a story - the intended purpose for these forums - because of all the bitching/moaning/whining negativity one has to wade through to find the comments that are actually about the story, rather than yet more toxic whining. And it's kind of killing the MacRumors forums.
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that group is pretty much the only reason we still had Macs prior to Jobs' return.
It still annoys me the bare faced lying to the public.
He stands on stage and says to the worldwide public "We make the best computers we can"
Yet, he takes a desktop PC (iMac) fits a laptop low end GPU, and a 5400rpm physical hard drive.
Sorry Tim, But I don't like people who stand there and basically lie to my face.
He stands on stage and says to the worldwide public "We make the best computers we can"
Yet, he takes a desktop PC (iMac) fits a laptop low end GPU, and a 5400rpm physical hard drive.
Sorry Tim, But I don't like people who stand there and basically lie to my face.
Quite right.
Yet those who enjoy their Macs aren't wrong in wishing Apple would continue with computers in _addition_ to their other products.
Currently Apple is hyper focused on consumer electronics, gadgets like Apple Watch and products that involve little R&D.
Social issues like politics have surged to the front of Timmys priorities. He shares Apple's craving for attention and headlines.
Reporting on news straight from a MacRumors' comment.
This site, man. There isn't a big enough facepalm.
Beautifully articulated. It's a shame, because there are genuine criticisms about Apple's upgrade cycle which are well argued and make great points.
However, there lies an army; bitter posters, brandishing their pitchforks in a sea of blind hatred; posters who will not hesitate to use every single article as a springboard to somehow twist into an anti-Apple rhetoric. It's nauseatingly repetitive.
When I see the same posters saying the same things for no reason other than to hate, I just add them to my ignore list. It makes it more tolerable.
Also making excuses is a child's game. I'm not so much worried about the length of time between new Mac but rather the attitude they had on display here. At the very least they could have suggested that new product is on the way.
I wonder about the profit margins on the MBP which gets by with old hardware. Apple doesn't lower the price and the older parts probably decrease in cost.
I think you're right about the Mac Pro. It will never have nowhere near the profit margins as the Apple Watch bands, or cases, or whatever other junk accessories Apple will get into.