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Apple Seeds 10.4.10 Build 8R208/8R2208

kingofkolt said:
It's kinda funny to see the difference between how Windows and Mac users react to OS updates. With Windows, it's "Oh God, another service pack?!" :D
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Since its release in 2001, Windows XP has had two service packs. Windows Server 2003 is also on SP2.

Apple's monthly patches (this is the fifth update, released in May, right?) are like Windows' "Patch Tuesday".

A minor monthly automatic update that usually reboots your machine (but with Windows, only one reboot ;) ).
 
vasu said:
No, RAW support is added at the OS level to libraw, which is part of the Core Image framework.

It's done this way so that all RAW image rendering is identical between Preview, iPhoto, Aperture, Final Cut Studio, or any app that can tap into Core Image.
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It's actually part of ImageIO, not Core Image, but close enough :p

Aperture exposes all of the RAW fine tuning and control provided by the framework which iPhoto and Preview don't currently do.
 
Finally!

Simon R. said:
Man, that is the weirdest reasoning I ever saw. You'll have to explain this one to me. Because Apple releases an update to their current OS, it means that Leopard is getting closer? Of course you are right. By definition, Leopard is getting closer each and every day, but how on earth is that related to this Tiger update?
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Thank you sir, you are my hero. I've always found amusing how people 'predict' the release of Leopard based on the current revision of Tiger. For example, when 10.4.9 people were expecting Leopard to be out a couple of weeks later WTF???? This is OS develpment, there are no statistics in play! Leopard will be out when it's ready and as far as we know this won't happen before Ocober.
 
PlaceofDis said:
wouldn't that be an Aperture update and not OS X? :rolleyes:
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Probably both, actually. If I remember correctly, RAW support is built into the OS, not just individual applications.

edit: should have read the rest of the thread; beat'd several times!
 
Simon R. said:
Man, that is the weirdest reasoning I ever saw. You'll have to explain this one to me. Because Apple releases an update to their current OS, it means that Leopard is getting closer? Of course you are right. By definition, Leopard is getting closer each and every day, but how on earth is that related to this Tiger update?
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I'm don't have access to macintel's interal thought process, but I suppose that 1) the fixes noted seem to be somewhat minor and peripheral to the central OS and 2) Apple called them minor fixes. You can't really worry about minor fixes until the big problems as just about resolved, so maybe it points to Tiger being as good as Apple wants it to be. That would free up resources to push Leopard out the door a little faster.

But who knows?

I'm just amusing myself with the people that can't handle the .10, the people that make jokes about the people that can't handle the .10, and the people whose heads are exploding because they can't tell the difference between those two groups and need to correct everybody.:D I can't wait for 10.4.10 to be released!
 
nbs2 said:
and the people whose heads are exploding because they can't tell the difference between those two groups and need to correct everybody.:D I can't wait for 10.4.10 to be released!
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So true, it has been pretty good so far.
 
richthomas said:
i bought my wireless might mouse a few weeks ago. the batteries are still 100% (as said by istat pro) the trackball and touch sensors are flawless and i never loose connectivity.... the only thing is it takes about 10 sec to pick it after a restart (but who cares!). it also has no problems in vista! im sorry about your problems maybe you could try installing the cd again that came with your mighty mouse and keyboard.... or was the software pre-installed in you mac?
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Yeah, it was preinstalled. I've gotten so tired of it, I've gone back to an old Apple USB keyboard and mouse that I have. Also, I was never able to get Windows XP to properly install the keyboard (It never gives me enough time to type in the encryption key). Not a huge deal, but I prefer not having to fuss with the cord.
 
If anything, wouldn't it mean that Leopard is farther off? Patching mindless little bugs, that are most likely non-existent in the next major release would suggest that they're keeping us happy while Leopard moves farther and farther away.
 
Dont ya'all get your hopes up too much-October 1-31 is a long ways off (and thats assuming no more delays)
Heck, we MIGHT even see a 10.4.11!
 
I wonder if Apple will continue to update Tiger (10.4.11, 10.4.12.. etc) AFTER Leopard is released.
IIRC Panther (or Jaguar or Puma before that) was never updated past 10.3.9, after Tiger was released. It did get security updates and QT updates etc, but not a .X update.
 
zackkitzmiller said:
If anything, wouldn't it mean that Leopard is farther off? Patching mindless little bugs, that are most likely non-existent in the next major release would suggest that they're keeping us happy while Leopard moves farther and farther away.
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No, because even when Leopard is released Apple knows that there will still be people using Tiger and so they want to get it as bug free as possible so that they don't have to go back and patch it after Leopard has been released (I'm not even sure if Apple support older OS systems at all really with point releases).
 
kingofkolt said:
It's kinda funny to see the difference between how Windows and Mac users react to OS updates. With Windows, it's "Oh God, another service pack?!" :D
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lol seriously. That's an interesting point. When I was a Windows XP user, I used to dread updates as they almost always caused problems. On OS X I look forward to them, kind of funny eh lol. :eek:
 
Cromulent said:
No, because even when Leopard is released Apple knows that there will still be people using Tiger and so they want to get it as bug free as possible so that they don't have to go back and patch it after Leopard has been released (I'm not even sure if Apple support older OS systems at all really with point releases).
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Not exatly true.

Apple seems to backport some frameworks from the new system to the old, which many times *breaks* the old system. This was the case with Panther (10.3.8 was notably less buggy than 10.3.9) and Jaguar (10.2.6 was the least buggy version). And seems also be the case with Tiger (10.4.8 is stable, 10.4.9 is not).

So, instead of making "bugfree" release, they include some new technologies that make the old system "supported" for a little longer.

And they do release security patches for old systems as well.
 
Be glad of 10.4.10, 10.5 will cost you $129.00 or more MSRP ( BELIVE IT!!! )

BTW

10.4.10 really should be 10.4.A or else 10.4.1 should have been 10.4.01 .
 
AidenShaw said:
Since its release in 2001, Windows XP has had two service packs. Windows Server 2003 is also on SP2.

Apple's monthly patches (this is the fifth update, released in May, right?) are like Windows' "Patch Tuesday".

A minor monthly automatic update that usually reboots your machine (but with Windows, only one reboot ;) ).
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Service Packs are different from OSX updates - the service packs, as well as fixing bugs, also introduces quite a lot of new functionality.
 
newtech said:
10.4.10 really should be 10.4.A or else 10.4.1 should have been 10.4.01 .
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Sigh. Posts like this are getting f?cking irritating.

Its a ****ing decimal.

What number comes after 9? If don't know then go back to school and learn to count.
 
Stella said:
Sigh. Posts like this are getting f?cking irritating.

Its a ****ing decimal.
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Actually it's not a decimal, that's the confusion ;)

Anyhow, i don't see how this changes anything. If people are hoping for Leopard to be released earlier than Apple have said, then i think that's far too optimistic. Preview at WWDC, release at Fall.
 
Much Ado said:
Actually it's not a decimal, that's the confusion ;)

Anyhow, i don't see how this changes anything. If people are hoping for Leopard to be released earlier than Apple have said, then i think that's far too optimistic. Preview at WWDC, release at Fall.
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Sorry, I meant, its not a decimal.

Anyway, at the end of the day, its a version number.

Those people who were expecting 10.5 after 10.4.9... well, this aint Leopard... look at other software and Apple follows the same numbering system. its pretty much standard.
 
I hope this will be the final update to Tiger. For Leopard, I predicting that Leopard will have 10.5.11 or 10.5.12 for a final update.
 
after LEOPARD is released, all further TIGER updates will be titled security/bug fixes: TIGER 2008.4.4, or TIGER 10.4.11 Security update 2 or the like.
 
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