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It warns you before downloading, plus they're very clearly for Win7 once they're downloaded.

oh i see, yea i was wondering once windows 8 drivers are released, if you would have the option of download which ever version you need.
 
I think they will just bundle up the drivers for win7/win8 they are mostly the same anyway, as all win7 drivers (with very few exceptions) run on win8.

And the same the other way, all "win8" drivers is just as much for win7. So your download will not change at all, it will just be slightly updated versions of what ever is there.
 
I think they will just bundle up the drivers for win7/win8 they are mostly the same anyway, as all win7 drivers (with very few exceptions) run on win8.

And the same the other way, all "win8" drivers is just as much for win7. So your download will not change at all, it will just be slightly updated versions of what ever is there.

The biggest roadblock to full win8 compatibility right now is the boot camp control panel; in 8 it won't run under an administrator user, meaning you can't easily change trackpad and keyboard settings, and brightness (both display and keyboard) controls as well as startup disk controls don't work at all.
 
OK, have any of you SSD or Retina guys noticed the reboot times for this release and whether it's an improvement?
 
The biggest roadblock to full win8 compatibility right now is the boot camp control panel; in 8 it won't run under an administrator user, meaning you can't easily change trackpad and keyboard settings.

That sounds like a problem with your install. Try removing and re-installing the boot camp control panel. The control panel works just fine on my computer running as administrator.

Brightness (both display and keyboard) controls

Dunno is this is a universal fix for all apple hardware but I had this problem and you can fix it.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...mobile-gpus/brightness-controls-not-working/4

startup disk controls don't work at all.

Not sure about this one.

OK, have any of you SSD or Retina guys noticed the reboot times for this release and whether it's an improvement?

Pretty sure I already posted this but I'm still having slow shutdown with a SSD.
 
Even I have to admit, this is ridiculous. How does Apple expect to move OS X to an annual release cycle when 10.x.x updates take this long to iron out?

Apple, return to the "old school" method, release betas (and not DP's) to developers as fresh ISO's ~ every 2 weeks (a clean install ensures better analysis of any bugs that may present themselves as opposed to installing releases on top of older ones). If OS X moves to an annual 10.X release cycle as announced, based on how Craig Federighi is handling software engineering since Serlet's departure before Lion, OS X may be a hot mess.
 
I love how you're making declarations like you actually have a choice. What are you gonna do, march into Cupertino and do a stick up

You are right, he doesn't have a choice. He's just expressing anger and he has every right to do so because he is the one suffering from all the problems with his mac that aren't suppose to be there in the first place.

Anyways, all we can do is wait and it's extremely likely that we'll see this update in the next two weeks.
 
Even I have to admit, this is ridiculous. How does Apple expect to move OS X to an annual release cycle when 10.x.x updates take this long to iron out?

Apple, return to the "old school" method, release betas (and not DP's) to developers as fresh ISO's ~ every 2 weeks (a clean install ensures better analysis of any bugs that may present themselves as opposed to installing releases on top of older ones). If OS X moves to an annual 10.X release cycle as announced, based on how Craig Federighi is handling software engineering since Serlet's departure before Lion, OS X may be a hot mess.

You want stable software but don't like it when Apple takes the time needed to create stable software?
 
You are right, he doesn't have a choice. He's just expressing anger and he has every right to do so because he is the one suffering from all the problems with his mac that aren't suppose to be there in the first place.

Anyways, all we can do is wait and it's extremely likely that we'll see this update in the next two weeks.

You are absolutely right, sshhoott. Again, sorry about what I posted! I've been trying to be as patient as I can. At least my Mac is still completely usable. I think I've noticed a slight speed improvement over Lion and I love the Facebook integration, which are a couple of reasons why I think it was worth paying $20 to upgrade, despite the bugs. I also love the fact that it is now easy to use Time Machine to back up to multiple hard drives.

Lately, OS X upgrades have been incredibly cheap compared to Windows, even though Macs are generally a lot more expensive and, of course, better than PCs (I think that Apple overprices Macs, by the way). Plus, if you stay up-to-date with the lastest version of the OS that your computer can run, its compatibility with new software will last longer. In fact, because there are a lot of people who still use Snow Leopard, I think that new software will support Mountain Lion for a long, long time.

Also, if you do keep upgrading, then unless your computer will not support the next version of the OS, there is a guarantee that you will be in its upgrade path. But still, I do want the critical bugs, including the "file" bug and the wallpaper resetting issue, to be fixed. Also, security improvements usually come with a new update. However, on my Mac, the wallpaper has only been reset when connecting the Mac to an external monitor.
 
The biggest roadblock to full win8 compatibility right now is the boot camp control panel; in 8 it won't run under an administrator user, meaning you can't easily change trackpad and keyboard settings, and brightness (both display and keyboard) controls as well as startup disk controls don't work at all.

right click -> new -> new shortcut
Code:
runas /trustlevel:0x20000 "C:/Windows/System32/AppleControlPanel.exe"
Start it with admin rights. This even works with the AHCI mod where the bootcamp control panel also won't open normally.
 
The biggest roadblock to full win8 compatibility right now is the boot camp control panel; in 8 it won't run under an administrator user, meaning you can't easily change trackpad and keyboard settings, and brightness (both display and keyboard) controls as well as startup disk controls don't work at all.

Not entirely true, it does run, just not in an easy fashion.

http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/...nel-applet-from-windows-8-on-macbook-pro.aspx

and

http://kyzog.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/fixing-boot-camp-control-panel-and-windows-8/

Is 2 ways you can make it run, but like I said not "easy". But it does work if you are willing to make it work.

But other than that I think people expect WAYY too much of this osx 10.8.3 update. I have installed and been using all beta updates since beta 8 I think and I have yet to see any real difference in both responsiveness or problem fixing. That said I do not have some of the problems that some people have. Also if people are stressing that badly to get the updates that it might hold, why not just install the betas and see if its fixed? I mean its not that hard to google and download.... anyway good luck guys!
 
This is ridicules, 3 months for a fix pack......or Is Apple going o surprise us with a total new OSX. As this will not be the case, why didn't the break up the fix in smaller releases instead of us having to wait for months 'enjoying all the bugs'.

Apple COME ON!!!!! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Fools... did you HONESTLY think apple devoted an entire team to a mid cycle release? ha, they are not spending four months perfecting ML... All they care about is getting another $19.95-$29.95 in July.
 
10.8.3

Yet another "Released tomorrow!" prediction in 3...2...1...

Well don't hold your breath - People appear to forget that OSX is now second fiddle to IOS and with the problems they are continually having to address with that is eating their resources, and Mackers and Hackers have to wait.
 
You want stable software but don't like it when Apple takes the time needed to create stable software?
What makes you think they are willfully taking their time just to achieve some magically gaol of never-before-acheived stability? Everybody assumes this but there is no proof to this end.

Nobody knows why 10.8.3. is taking so long or why the betas keep coming in short bursts. It sounds like there are problems we aren't aware of... which isn't good. Personally, I think the longer list of bugs they squash over time only introduces new ones.
 
Sorry about what I posted! I'm just upset that it has taken more than four months. I'm trying to be as patient as I can.
Yeah they are taking a lot of time. 10.8.2 was released in september! But since I can still remember Lion and the many problems that had for months (I could no longer access the WIFI of my university!), I'm quite happy with ML as it is.
 
What makes you think they are willfully taking their time just to achieve some magically gaol of never-before-acheived stability? Everybody assumes this but there is no proof to this end.

Nobody knows why 10.8.3. is taking so long or why the betas keep coming in short bursts. It sounds like there are problems we aren't aware of... which isn't good. Personally, I think the longer list of bugs they squash over time only introduces new ones.

Are you suggesting that they are taking their time just to do it? I'm pretty positive my theory seems more plausible.


That said, my wallpapers still reset after reboot.
 
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