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Nice to see they are working hard on this but for the love of god please release a final build.

My UI lag plus numerous other issues need fixing :)
 
OK, have any of you SSD or Retina guys noticed the reboot times for this release and whether it's an improvement?

Boot times have improved for me. Also, general stability seems more robust.
In thesis I lost compatibility with CUDA acceleration, but it still works. NVIDIA needs to update CUDA drivers.

Shutdown times seem the same: not great, but not bad either. ;)
 
Are you suggesting that they are taking their time just to do it?
Not at all. I suspect it's a problem due to leadership without a plan or some lofty and unattainable goal to release THE BIG update to end all updates.

Also, Craig Federighi is now charged with both iOS and OSX, and he's most likely spread a little thin. (And under the microscope).

That said, my wallpapers still reset after reboot.
Were it up to me, these kinds of issues would be relegated to the 10.8.4 pile of crap nobody cares about. That said, these kind of useless "eye-candy" issues will probably move to the top of the list since OSX is now all about flash, glitter and nauseating animations that serve no purpose.
 
That said, these kind of useless "eye-candy" issues will probably move to the top of the list since OSX is now all about flash, glitter and nauseating animations that serve no purpose.

Yet this forum and like many others will praise 10.9 like the messiah.
 
Yet this forum and like many others will praise 10.9 like the messiah.

You really think so? The 10.7 release was met with widespread hate. 10.8 got a much better response, but the gist of it was "it sucks way less than 10.7".

10.9 could go either way, depends on how good the actual release is.
 
Were it up to me, these kinds of issues would be relegated to the 10.8.4 pile of crap nobody cares about. That said, these kind of useless "eye-candy" issues will probably move to the top of the list since OSX is now all about flash, glitter and nauseating animations that serve no purpose.

Luckily it is not up to you.
 
Would be pretty sad after all these beta releases, if the only "major change" is "better social media integration". The howling on these boards would be off the charts. :p
 
Not at all. I suspect it's a problem due to leadership without a plan or some lofty and unattainable goal to release THE BIG update to end all updates.

Also, Craig Federighi is now charged with both iOS and OSX, and he's most likely spread a little thin. (And under the microscope).
I don't think that makes any sense. I don't see how having multiple betas of a point update indicates a problem with leadership. They're simply ironing out a release. And Federighi isn't a one man team. There is likely adequate staff to release software.

Were it up to me, these kinds of issues would be relegated to the 10.8.4 pile of crap nobody cares about. That said, these kind of useless "eye-candy" issues will probably move to the top of the list since OSX is now all about flash, glitter and nauseating animations that serve no purpose.
I don't think this makes any sense either. It's a bug that could be fixed so they fix it. I see no reason to "wait" to fix it. I also don't buy the whole "OS X now about flash" thing either but that's a different debate.
 
Apple probably started work on 10.8.4 a long time ago. Maybe we wont see 10.9 until late Q3/early Q4. There is no way we'll see a new OS released in the next 3 months
 
Apple probably started work on 10.8.4 a long time ago. Maybe we wont see 10.9 until late Q3/early Q4. There is no way we'll see a new OS released in the next 3 months

My guess ?

10.8.3 Wednesday March 6th released to the public.

10.9 Developer Preview Thursday March 7th with the GM build going out at WWDC 2013
 
You really think so? The 10.7 release was met with widespread hate. 10.8 got a much better response, but the gist of it was "it sucks way less than 10.7".

10.9 could go either way, depends on how good the actual release is.

The hate came from the removal of Rosetta. If you take those users out of the equation then the hatred would be almost gone. Just a thought.
 
Buy yourself a SSD or Retina Macbook Pro, then you can chuckle for the good side.:rolleyes:

Regardless of rolling eyes, the SSD did solve one crucial problem I was having on the mechanical. The memory running away with things and lots of page outs I used to get stopped once I switched to an SSD. For some reason on the mechanical memory was never releasing itself. Even after closing every app and letting the system idle for hours.

I left browsers open and came back in 30 minutes to an hour and it filled all my memory. If I do that now on the SSD the memory is stationary. There were so many things that caused the memory to run away no matter what I was doing, ending with 16GB page outs.

This was one of my biggest gripes. So far for a week now I've seen 0 page outs.

You really think so? The 10.7 release was met with widespread hate. 10.8 got a much better response, but the gist of it was "it sucks way less than 10.7".

10.9 could go either way, depends on how good the actual release is.

It's strange that 10.7 was really good to me. 10.8 is the most problems I've had, or at least after 10.8.1 and 2. I don't mean a lot but it's been more than previous releases. Though I do recall 10.7 having a somewhat poor performing UI to a degree while working in spaces.


Yeah, cause nobody cries about "iOSification" and clings to an out dated OS out of spite.

Sometimes I can understand now. The obsession with social media has become madness now.
 
You want stable software but don't like it when Apple takes the time needed to create stable software?

It was more stable when Serlet was running the show. Your analogy lacks logic, like Apple speeding up major OS X releases.

Don't think different, just, think ;)
 
should i just install windows 8...then install the windows 8 drivers once OSX gets released.

grrr i hate waitinggggg
 
should i just install windows 8...then install the windows 8 drivers once OSX gets released.

Yes.

I've been running Windows 8 since it was in beta on my Macbook Pro, it was a little rough at first but at this point everything works smoothly, just a few nit picky things not working like Volume/Brightness overlays showing up when I press the keyboard buttons.
 
I really don't notice any change after jumping to 10.8.3. Imac 2011.

The focus of 10.8.3 is bug fixes, there isn't really anything new to notice unless you've been having problems with 10.8.2 already and even then some issues haven't been fixed. I've been using 10.8.3 since the first beta and it pretty much feels exactly the same.

I'm just hoping that a 10.9 beta comes out soon, I'm interested in seeing what kind of things will be incorporated into the next Cat release.
 
I know where you're coming from...we all are. You just have to be patient. Remember the longer the wait the less likely there'll be issues with the update. Due to rigorous testing.

It just seems as there was some directive from the Apple board or something likewise that a lot of things should be sorted out this time.

You have to go far back to the past to find such a high build number, especially under consideration of the shortened life cycles since Lion.
 
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