Hmm, well I am an active user and I don't mind getting apps via torrents, but an OS from a less trustwurthy place has scared me off till now.
If it all would be supported by Apple wouldn't more people particpate?
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Apple Seeds Build 12D76 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers
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Hmm, well I am an active user and I don't mind getting apps via torrents, but an OS from a less trustwurthy place has scared me off till now.
If it all would be supported by Apple wouldn't more people particpate?
Installed 1 hour ago and as far as i can see:
- Scrolling in apps like Safari is now very smooth on rMBP (This hasn't been so in past 10.8.3 Beta Builds)
- Boot and Shutdown times are blazingly fast
- Wifi seems stable
I think this (12D76) is the best Beta Build (Maybe it's compiled without debugging -> GM?).
good news, if confirmed
Nice to know. It might be coming out very soon, maybe tomorrow or in the worst case scenario, next week...I hope xD
Hoping it brings my MBP back to the performance I was used to. In the meantime, people testing it: please keep on sharing your feedback, it's always nice to know
For Shutdown times:
Try to quit following apps from the Menu Bar before shutting down:
I get a shutdown time of constantly 4-5 seconds then... I think we should not blame apple for this behavior as Mac OS X is waiting for these apps to correctly close (and perform a "last sync").
- Evernote
- Dropbox
- Skitch
- Other Apps syncing Data with a Cloud Service
After updating your OS X: Do a option + cmd + r + p at startup (immediately after power on) to clear bios, smc, pac.. whatever.
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Yeayyyyy
Neither do I, If you startup in verbose mode by holding Command-V it will also do so at shutdown and you'll see many Apple Processes not shutting down, up to 4-5 times before these get killed.
My Old Powerbook (2005) starts up and shuts down faster than my 2012 Mac Mini!
I've said this in other threads about OS X, and I think it's worth repeating here: Apple, as a rule, has never, and never intends to release beta builds of 2 branches of OS X at the same time. This means no 10.9 until 10.8.3 is good and ready.
The answer is very yes. 10.8.2 Disk Utility and Fusion are not ready.
I got a new Mac mini i7 (late 2012) first week of January. An Apple reseller sold it to me customized with the standard 1tb drive and added a Samsung 830 500gb ssd. Said merchant did great; it was new and shiny and FAST. I wanted to bootcamp Win 8 Pro 64bit so I could retire my 8-year old HP desktop and still use Morrowind, Omnipage, etc.
I knew Win 8 wasn't OFFICIALLY supported but after waiting on 10.8.3 for two weeks I foolishly took the plunge. In Bootcamp Assistant I split up the ssd halfsies so both OS'es could have speedy greatness.
Coming from an iBook 1.42 I've never had an Intel Mac to try installing a dual boot setup. I (of course) bollixed things up. The Win8 DVD iso I made was bad, shoulda used a flash drive or fresher media. Bootcamp Assistant at this point kicked me out with partition issues. "No problem," I thought, "I've got all my important stuff backed up, I'll just nuke it from orbit and try out the nifty new web install thing." System recovery did its thing great, all except for forcing the hdd and ssd to merge into a Fusion drive.
Fusion Drive mojo is reserved by osX for mac use only. Any other os you Bootcamp can use the hdd portion ONLY. The first Applecare rep didn't have a solution and said I was SOL on getting Win 8 on the ssd. Bummed out I searched the web for answers and found this:
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20121103_2-DiskUtility-nasties.html
The second rep didn't have a fix either... but handled it right, took my link and asked Apple engineers who might. MLK holiday weekend goes by and 2nd person says, "Yes, I'll walk you though Terminal." Success! All is right with my Mini again.
When 10.8.3 finally drops with official Win8 support I'll try again.
10.9 has been in development since Lion, and thus will have a two year development cycle.
Installed 1 hour ago and as far as i can see:
- Scrolling in apps like Safari is now very smooth on rMBP (This hasn't been so in past 10.8.3 Beta Builds)
- Boot and Shutdown times are blazingly fast
- Wifi seems stable
I think this (12D76) is the best Beta Build (Maybe it's compiled without debugging -> GM?).
I find it very odd that there were no incremental improvement to boot and shutdown times at all; that up until Beta 12 it kept on sucking like 10.8.0 and it's "blazingly fast" on Beta 13...
Color me incredulous.
The Disk Utility in 10.8.2 isn't Fusion Drive-aware.
There is an updated version of Disk Utility, but it is only available on Macs bought with a factory Fusion Drive.
Although you can configure your own Fusion Drive on some older Macs that have both an SSD and HDD, you can't administer it with the 10.8.2 Disk Utility.
We just need Apple to include the updated version in 10.8.3.
Truer words haven't been spoken. Lion became usable for me about a year after it's initial release, and now it's been over 7 months after Mountain Lion and we're holding our hopes that 10.8.3 finally fixes the issues we're experiencing.
Are You Kidding Me?
We're talking about the operating system of the computer. Something that should be stable, allow you to run apps, and not get in the way. It's not Google Chrome for crying out loud.
This isn't something where a new major version should be released every 6 months. It just causes agony as device manufacturers, software vendors, etc. have to re-release drivers, update apps, rework processes, and so forth to support the new OS. I really think every 12 months is quite aggressive for a new OS, and I was surprised to see Apple move to that model, as it leaves little time for the currently shipping OS to mature.
Any faster than every 12 months for a major OS release, and I think you will drive software developers away from your platform.
We're talking about the operating system of the computer. Something that should be stable, allow you to run apps, and not get in the way. It's not Google Chrome for crying out loud.
This isn't something where a new major version should be released every 6 months. It just causes agony as device manufacturers, software vendors, etc. have to re-release drivers, update apps, rework processes, and so forth to support the new OS. I really think every 12 months is quite aggressive for a new OS, and I was surprised to see Apple move to that model, as it leaves little time for the currently shipping OS to mature.
Any faster than every 12 months for a major OS release, and I think you will drive software developers away from your platform.
That is why Apple is making sure 10.8.3 is stable and as a result, everybody is complaining about it.
You can't have it both ways...
But Apple don't bundle just the OS, see earlier in thread about thirty plus apps having changed in this 'point' update.
For example it is now over four months since release of Safari 6.0.2 (8536.26.17). In approx 35 years of IT development and use I struggle to recall anything so poor. Has it been fixed in public release yet? Apples own 'Update Software...' doesn't think so.
My wishlist
1. First of all, Apple should allow us to connect non-Apple devices via Display Port. Since 2011 iMac was introduced, this is no longer possible. There is no explanation as to why Thunderbolt port (which is backwards compatible with Display Port) shouldn't accept Display Port signals. For sure, this limitation was put in place intentionally by Apple.
2. Give us a better file manager - Finder is a joke. Replace it with something more useful, or clone Microsoft's file explorer.
3. Embrace Java and Flash and stop fighting these technologies. Adopt Java as the default development environment.
1. First of all, Apple should allow us to connect non-Apple devices via Display Port. Since 2011 iMac was introduced, this is no longer possible. There is no explanation as to why Thunderbolt port (which is backwards compatible with Display Port) shouldn't accept Display Port signals. For sure, this limitation was put in place intentionally by Apple.
2. Give us a better file manager - Finder is a joke. Replace it with something more useful, or clone Microsoft's file explorer.
3. Embrace Java and Flash and stop fighting these technologies. Adopt Java as the default development environment.
You have no idea what you are talking about do you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ftwjSNdI4E
Also you know nothing about the history of Apple or OS X
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It must be.
10.8 released about five months after the first public beta. I agree that there will certainly be at least 10.8.4 if not another one too.
Nope, twelve.
32, 38, 43, 44, 50, 54, 58, 61, 65, 68, 74, and now 12d76. That's twelve.
There wasn't one in-between, 54 was the sixth. Looks like that's where their count went wrong.
10.7.5 was in beta at the same time as 10.8 (and some testers had different partitions set up to test both). Soon we'll see 10.9 beta, but soon after that there probably will be a 10.8.4 beta.
He's not talking about public release of 10.9 now, he means the announcement and the first beta. Public release would be in a few months, a year or slightly more after the last major release.
If it's anything like Apple naming the SIXTH generation iPhone the iPhone 5, it might not be such a chuckle. That made zero sense, other than to feed the media illiteracy.
The only thing Google is innovating is how well they can troll the patent office for Apple's (and others) patent applications, come up with their own half-a$$ed version, and rush it half-baked to market to claim Android had it first. If you call that innovation, then I guess that's innovative...
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I've let it go. I was just pointing out someone's comment about an OS X release being 15.x.x.
Not pathetic at all. I'm just stating the obvious.