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Apple Seeds Build 12D76 of OS X Beta 10.8.3 to Developers

ghosthaunt11 said:
Do you want to know what I think would be a good feature of OS X? It could give users the option to easily program OS X so that when it shuts down or reboots, it will force quit applications automatically if they fail to quit within a certain period of time.
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Sort of what the VM on my Mac does - tells the app to close, after a very short while - if app is still there then asks me what I want to do. If app closes in the meantime while VM is waiting a response from me, the VM closes the dialog box as there is no longer any point in asking me and just gets on with shutting down. Smart.

What Apple does is - let me select shutdown, have me confirm it on a dialog box and let someone that wrote the Mail code decide no we are not going to do that.:mad:
 
cmChimera said:
I'm not sure what they did in this beta, but mission control is really fast now. It may slow down with a few more windows, but it seems quicker than it used to be.
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Fortunately, the side effect of installing any update is that it also takes care of some system housekeeping. This almost always results in some kind of perceived boost in performance. Even a clean reinstall of the current 10.8.2 plagued with bugs will zip along for a while. 10.8.3 needs to stand the "test of time" before I'll believe it.

I will probably wait a week before upgrading while I evaluate what users say and weight those comments against the new problems every update brings.
 
Krazy Bill said:
Fortunately, the side effect of installing any update is that it also takes care of some system housekeeping. This almost always results in some kind of perceived boost in performance. Even a clean reinstall of the current 10.8.2 plagued with bugs will zip along for a while. 10.8.3 needs to stand the "test of time" before I'll believe it.

I will probably wait a week before upgrading while I evaluate what users say and weight those comments against the new problems every update brings.
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That's fair, but this is the first time I've noted this from the multiple 10.8.3 betas I've installed, and it still seems to be applicable.
 
10.8.3 today? Fingers crossed.

I think we will only see ios updates for pages, numbers and keynote...it is more important...NOT
 
i hate the shut down time inconsistency. sometimes it shuts down fast..sometimes it slow.!!!!
 
For what its worth: (I havent read the whole thread)

I have installed this: os_x_10.8.3_build_12d76_combo_update.dmg on my 15" rMBP and my general feel is that things work better.

For instance I had some strange behaviour in Safari. Websites and forms could sometimes just look garbeled. This is now fixed. Also scrolling on websites seem snappier (its a new version of Safari in this update: 6.0.3).

Havent really had the time to test so much else but it seems to work better at least.
 
Is there any indication in the latest builds that Apple might offer a substantive upgrade to OpenGL, maybe to version 4?
 
Irishman said:
I was afraid you might say that.

Is that something that they typically play closer to the vest?
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Apple is just notoriously slow with adding OpenGL. OpenGL 3.3 came out 3 years ago and yet they are just now starting to add some support for it. Why they're so slow with adding support is something only they would know, probably has to do with the fact that macs have never really been seen or marketed as beng ideal gaming machines.

If you ever want to get some detailed info on the graphics drivers of your current OS check out OpenGL Extension Viewer.

Here what it's showing for me on 12D76
Core features
v3.0 (100 % - 23/23)

v3.1 (100 % - 8/8)

v3.2 (100 % - 10/10)

v3.3 (50 % - 5/10)

v4.0 (0 % - 0/14)

v4.1 (14 % - 1/7)

v4.2 (0 % - 0/12)

v4.3 (0 % - 0/1)


OpenGL driver version check (Current: 3.2 NVIDIA-8.10.42 304.10.65f03, Latest known: 3.2 NVIDIA-8.10.42 304.10.65f03):
Latest version of display drivers found
According the database, you are running the latest display drivers for your video card.

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Badagri said:
I'm going with the, it'll be released when it's released and let the guinea pigs test it out when it's officially released.
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I've been a guinea pig since July 25, 2012. Next week, its time to turn back to a human with OS X 10.8.3. :D
 
UI performance on MPRr

Can anyone tell me how the following Apps perform in 12D76 on a MBPr, preferably 15”:
- Preview (scrolling in large PDF's)
- Mail (scrolling in large mail threads)
- Safari (scrolling on large web pages)
- Calendar (all animations, especially swiping between months)

Also, how is the general UI performing? Mission Control, swiping between desktops, etc.? If someone could please do the following test in 12D76: Open QuickTime -> File -> New Screen Recording and start doing a screen recording. Then go in and out of Mission Control, swipe a bit between desktops and see how it generally performs. In 10.8.2 this action makes the machine practically useless as it takes up to 5-10 seconds just to open up Mission Control. Maybe I should add, that this action performs perfectly on a MB Air.

If anyone could please post something about these performance issues, it would be extremely helpful.
 
81Steven said:
any chance they release 10.8.3 today?
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Based on prior postings in this thread and in others, I foresee a release either today or next Tuesday. (Apple rarely releases stuff on Mondays.)

Peace said:
Highly unlikely. Point releases have almost always come on a Wednesday or Thursday.
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Did not know that. Thanks for sharing!
 
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Peace said:
Highly unlikely. Point releases have almost always come on a Wednesday or Thursday.
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There have been monday and tuesday releases (though more of them longer ago), but I don't think they've ever done a point release of OSX on a Friday.
 
milo said:
There have been monday and tuesday releases (though more of them longer ago), but I don't think they've ever done a point release of OSX on a Friday.
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Ya. I know Apple did some Monday or Tuesday releases but over the past year or two they've always done it on Wednesday or Thursday.
 
Sky Blue said:
Day between os x updates

1. 165 days, 10.4.8 - 10.4.9
2. 153 days so far,10.8.2SU - 10.8.3
3. 148 days, 10.5.6 - 10.5.7
4. 148 days, 10.6.4 - 10.6.5
5. 147 days, 10.4.10 - 10.4.11
6. 140, 10.6.2 - 10.6.3
7. 133, 10.7.4 - 10.7.5
8. 112 10.7.2 - 10.7.3
9. 111, 10.4.2 -10.4.3
10. 107, 10.5.2 - 10.5.3

Keep it going for 2 weeks and we'll have a new record!

(If you go by the original 10.8.2, it's been 168 days!)
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In proportion, I think 10.8.3 can ALREADY be considered the longest-running beta ever - and why? Because, if I am not mistaken, 10.4.9 was just a bug fix launched when Leopard was already around.

This time we don't have 10.9 out for the masses, so the effect of this slow development cycle can be felt much more strongly now - 10.8 is THE current OS X version and people ARE waiting for substantial system-level corrections.
 
I'm fed up with the impatience of some people.

Had Apple released this before it was ready you would've moaned.

Apple are taking their time and perhaps doing some decent regression testing with this release and you're moaning your arses off.

Grow up and accept that sometimes these things take time to get right.
 
cjmillsnun said:
I'm fed up with the impatience of some people.

Had Apple released this before it was ready you would've moaned.

Apple are taking their time and perhaps doing some decent regression testing with this release and you're moaning your arses off.

Grow up and accept that sometimes these things take time to get right.
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So you're going to be the first to cast a stone if 18.8.3 comes out and subsequently breaks something, right?

After all, they're taking this time to "get it right".
 
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