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Apple today seeded the eighth beta of macOS Ventura to its public beta testing group, allowing non-developers to test the new macOS Ventura operating system ahead of its release. The eighth beta comes following the seventh public beta and it corresponds with tenth developer beta released earlier this week.

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Public beta testers can download the macOS 13 Ventura update from the Software Update section of the System Preferences app after installing the proper profile from Apple's beta software website.

macOS Ventura introduces Stage Manager, a new multi-tasking option for focusing on a task while having other apps waiting in the wings. Stage Manager puts your main app front and center, tucking your other apps to the side for quick access.

Continuity Camera allows you to use your iPhone as a webcam for your Mac, offering much better camera quality than the built-in Mac camera. Apple is building special stands to hold the iPhone with a Mac, and there are neat features like Desk View, which uses the Ultra Wide lens.

Handoff now works with FaceTime so you can answer calls on the Mac and then transfer them over to another device, and Messages is gaining undo, edit, and mark as unread features. SharePlay now works in Messages in addition to FaceTime, and the Mail app has been overhauled. Search is more relevant, emails can be scheduled, and there's even an option to undo an email for up to 10 seconds after it's sent.

Apple brought the Weather and Clock apps to the Mac, redesigned System Preferences and renamed it System Settings, and added support for Shared Tab Groups. Passwords are being replaced with more secure Passkeys in iOS 16 and macOS Ventura, and there are updates to Spotlight, Visual Lookup, Live Text, and more.

There are a ton of other features in macOS Ventura, and we have a full rundown available in our dedicated macOS Ventura roundup.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Eighth Public Beta of macOS 13 Ventura
 

smilyfox

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I have a issue when I reboot my pc it goes to the lowest screen resolution.. I hope this solves the issue.
 

gank41

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I'm on a 2020 M1 MBP with this Developer Build, 22A5365d, and am still experiencing kernel crash/reboots whenever it goes to sleep. I've resorted to using the Amphetamine App to keep it from Sleeping/Crashing/Rebooting...

I'm also still experiencing issues with specific app settings like Full Disk Access and other app specific options as completely gone. Another reboot (or two or three!) and everything is back to "normal" again.
 

The_Cynic

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First time trying the Mac Betas. Probably won't do in future.
iOS and iPad OS don't suffer as badly, at least in my years of doing them.

Probably because they are a lot simpler devices.
 

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I'm on a 2020 M1 MBP with this Developer Build, 22A5365d, and am still experiencing kernel crash/reboots whenever it goes to sleep. I've resorted to using the Amphetamine App to keep it from Sleeping/Crashing/Rebooting...

I'm also still experiencing issues with specific app settings like Full Disk Access and other app specific options as completely gone. Another reboot (or two or three!) and everything is back to "normal" again.
I have appearance set to Dark, not auto, under wall paper dynamic desktop set to the purple/violet image, Monterey Graphic is set to Dark (still), not using any screen saver. Perhaps related to why some issues crops up going to sleep or waking. This with a M1 iMac. I was thinking it might be one of those settings messing up going to sleep and later.
 

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Apple should consider taking a gap year on software releases, especially for macOS. Its time for a Snow Leopard release.
I would love this, as I think most Apple enthusiasts would. We don't need more bells and whistles, we need the ones we have to be as rock-solid as the hardware has become, and the software used to be.

I think the only reason this won't happen is that shareholders, and the overall market press, would freak out and claim doom and gloom. There is very little patience in the arena of consumer tech investing, and Apple is beholden to it's investors.

That said, those of us who have been using Apple gizmos for decades, and remember the Snow Leopard days, would celebrate and shout from the nerdy rooftops. Further, I'd bet Apple devs would welcome the time to polish their work even more!

I would adore being wrong here (my wife just perked up her ears, lol), but I doubt a year of pure polish is in our future...
 

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First time trying the Mac Betas. Probably won't do in future.
iOS and iPad OS don't suffer as badly, at least in my years of doing them.

Probably because they are a lot simpler devices.
Enable Develop menu (advanced settings at the bottom checkbox) in Safari and case too much caching need to be cleared. (empty cache)
 

Mr. Dee

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Why should we take a gap year for new Apple Silicon based Macs? We have yet to see the Mac Pro this year, that requires more from the new OS.
More from the new OS? You do realize that operating system's are pretty much a solved problem right? The main role of the operating system is be a traffic copy between you the hardware and applications: memory management, pre-emptive multi-tasking and security.
 

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More from the new OS? You do realize that operating system's are pretty much a solved problem right? The main role of the operating system is be a traffic copy between you the hardware and applications: memory management, pre-emptive multi-tasking and security.
Yes like whats been added for better AS GPU capability such as Metal 3.


However, it looks as though Apple is taking steps to change this, with a new gaming framework called Metal 3, which can more easily port over recent games from Windows, to both macOS 13 Ventura and iPadOS 16.
Thats just one example from the Ventura OS.
 

gk_brown

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> Apple is building special stands to hold the ‌iPhone‌ with a Mac

Would like to see this. Did a quick search and didn't find anything.
 

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First time trying the Mac Betas. Probably won't do in future.
iOS and iPad OS don't suffer as badly, at least in my years of doing them.

Probably because they are a lot simpler devices.
Don’t worry, as hardware becomes stagnant the software *cough* dynamic island, will present their own bugs and issues. Features will be given and taken away on a whim via firmware or update similarly to Tesla.
 
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Jerry Fritschle

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Apple should consider taking a gap year on software releases, especially for macOS. Its time for a Snow Leopard release.
Don't forget that part of Snow Leopard's elegance was in focusing on a single architecture--i.e, dumping PowerPC.

We are some ways off from being ready to say goodbye to Intel. :)
 

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Everyone would rejoice if there wasn't the annual stuff getting broken because Apple reworks all of the plumbing underneath. It's getting really tiring. "Are we there yet?" I've been asking this for years. Seems like we haven't arrived. Hopefully Apple can come to a place where it's not necessary to revamp the whole damn thing every year & add features when they're ready!
 

CarAnalogy

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Apple should consider taking a gap year on software releases, especially for macOS. Its time for a Snow Leopard release.

Every year they need one more than the last, and every year it looks less likely they’ll ever do it.

Apple is run by the bean counters now, and “no new features” doesn’t sound like a record breaking quarter to Wall Street, so they won’t do it.
 
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CarAnalogy

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Sure and then people will complain Apple doesn’t innovate anymore. Whatever Apple does, people here will keep pissing vinegar!

Anyone who follows Apple has been asking them to do this for years. Remember the Snow Leopard announcement got a standing ovation at WWDC.

And they thought it was bad then.
 

CarAnalogy

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Everyone would rejoice if there wasn't the annual stuff getting broken because Apple reworks all of the plumbing underneath. It's getting really tiring. "Are we there yet?" I've been asking this for years. Seems like we haven't arrived. Hopefully Apple can come to a place where it's not necessary to revamp the whole damn thing every year & add features when they're ready!

And it’s not just Apple, it’s the entire damn software industry.

One of the many things Facebook has done to gravely harm the world: legitimizing the idiotic philosophy “move fast and break things.”

Apple was supposed to be better than that.

Maybe it’s a side effect of our short attention span Kardashian world. Nobody cares about quality anymore, just shininess. Even if just beneath the shiny there’s no substance.
 
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