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Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of iOS 11 to Developers, Removes iCloud Messages for Now

FoxMike said:
Weather and Temperature are still broken on apple watch.
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How are they broken? The weather complication (default Apple weather app) on my Apple Watch shows the temperature. At least they worked under DP 4 (iOS 11 and WatchOS 4).

My watch is currently updating to DP 5, so I can't swear that it's not broken under DP 5. :)
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Just finished updating, and have already found a new bug. For some reason the lock screen will not show my wallpaper, just a time and date against a black background.
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Had the same issue on my iPad Pro, restarting again after the update seems to have fixed it though.
 
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KoolAid-Drink said:
Does anyone know if they meant removed only during the beta, or if the final shipping version will not have iMessages in iCloud? I was planning to get the new iPhone this fall, and do a clean install (AFTER uploading all iMessages to iCloud).
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From the release notes:

The “Messages in iCloud” feature has been removed in iOS 11 beta 5 and will ship in a future software update to iOS 11. Users can continue to receive and store messages on each device, and they can continue to backup and restore messages using iCloud Backup.
 
noraa said:
Had the same issue on my iPad Pro, restarting again after the update seems to have fixed it though.
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But it will return back soon after.

It’s pretty weird that when I took a screenshot of the time and date and black background for the lock screen wallpaper, the screenshot shows the correct lock screen.
 
jhfenton said:
How are they broken? The weather complication (default Apple weather app) on my Apple Watch shows the temperature. At least they worked under DP 4 (iOS 11 and WatchOS 4).

My watch is currently updating to DP 5, so I can't swear that it's not broken under DP 5. :)
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Well it was broken. Mine has started working again as I type this. for awhile it would not pull my local weather. It would just give me the loading circle. I manually went into weather and it loaded my local weather. All thru beta 3 it was not working.
 
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The Carny said:
I’m unable to install Apple's own non-mandatory apps on both iPhone 7 and iPad Pro 10.5”. The iPhone is restoring a back-up as I wanted to free up space taken by the 'System' storage bug that has carried over from Beta 4, but this is worse because I now can’t access the majority of the stock apps.

I tried downloading an Apple app I don’t have (Home) on the iPad and it states that it is unable to install, so it doesn’t seem as though it’s isolated to the iPhone, and as far as I can tell, it looks like the only way around it for the time being is by setting up as new.
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Same problem after a hard reset and restore from iTunes. . .Which means I can't re-pair my watch.

However Siri now works as expected..
 
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csurfr said:
I just performed a hard reset and a backup via iTunes, and none of the Apple apps will download... watch, mail, calendar, etc. . . not so good.
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Same here. Wouldn’t download on my backup and the same applies now that I’ve tried a clean install. I'll try rolling back to 10.3.3 later and updating OTA from there.

I suspect it’s simply a server-side issue with the versions of the apps the iOS 11 store is pushing out, but if not, this beta is going to be pulled / replaced in short order because a complete inability to do a functional clean install is a pretty big oversight. If it remains unresolved, I wouldn’t expect a new public beta this week.
 
fullfast said:
Wonder if they have fixed the DONE button when you have taken a screenshot on the 7p
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No, but that I can cope with better than them still not putting the 3D Touch app switcher back. Yeah, beta, blah blah. But for Christ’s sake that shouldn’t be left out, there was bugger all wrong with it in the first place.

Unless they’re planning some awesome new variation on it. In which case, get yer arses in gear and get it in the beta :D
 
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FoxMike said:
Well it was broken. Mine has started working again as I type this. for awhile it would not pull my local weather. It would just give me the loading circle. I manually went into weather and it loaded my local weather. All thru beta 3 it was not working.
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I'm glad I could be of assistance! ;)
 
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KoolAid-Drink said:
Does this happen when you hit the power and home buttons at the same time to take a screenshot? I hope this screen won't pop up each time I take a screenshot. I prefer taking quick screenshots and then editing later.
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When you take a screenshot in iOS 11, at least on the iPad, a thumbnail shows up in the lower left corner. You can either tap it to edit immediately with all of the markup tools readily available, or let it "disappear" after a few seconds; it will be in your photos for you to edit later, where you'll have to take a few extra steps to get to the markup tools that are available.
 
this is new during setup from clean install (taken by macbook camera with screen protector on phone)
 

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andybno1 said:
this is new during setup from clean install (taken by macbook camera with screen protector on phone)
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Yeah, I saw this same screen, and even used it a moment ago when I was attempting to restore my 7 Plus that wouldn't download the Apple Apps. . . Man, even with a backup I lost a ton of messages I would liked to have kept. Such is the way it goes with Betas.
 
Screenshot Done button finally works normally. Some my main apps works perfect - no crash at all... Also noticed it charges much faster now with previous beta it was quite slow..
The Carny said:
Same here. Wouldn’t download on my backup and the same applies now that I’ve tried a clean install. I'll try rolling back to 10.3.3 later and updating OTA from there.

I suspect it’s simply a server-side issue with the versions of the apps the iOS 11 store is pushing out, but if not, this beta is going to be pulled / replaced in short order because a complete inability to do a functional clean install is a pretty big oversight. If it remains unresolved, I wouldn’t expect a new public beta this week.
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eoblaed said:
The current PB has been running really well on my iPPv2, this PB (tomorrow?) might be the one I put on my phone.
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The dock in the PB is pretty horrific on my iPP 10.5". Adding or removing apps from docks requires a reboot every time. Next PB can't come soon enough.
 
csurfr said:
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Same problem after a hard reset and restore from iTunes. . .Which means I can't re-pair my watch.

However Siri now works as expected..
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Had a same issue ! Downloaded iOS 11 beta 5 ipsw and did dfu mode recovery. All works fine now.
 
I just with Calendar would stop alerting me to things that happened WEEKS ago. This 'feature' seems to have only popped up in since the last update. It's a multi-week event, and I get two updates. One for the one weeks ago, and one for the current event.
 
Guys open Safari or any other App and take a screenshot, tap on that screenshot and notice those buttons are stil off. Also try to share that screenshot right away. Do you notice that weird animation?

Trying on IP7.
 
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