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What is your position on the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities? Im asking respectfully as someone that is concerned about older iterations of OSs in light of these risks

Doesn't really concern me.

It has been there for ages and nobody found out, or the NSA was in it which I doubt or it was a intensionally made that way back then without the knowledge that it could be potentially dangerous later on.
Been on OS X/macOS since the beginning and had never had any problem.
 
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I don't really see that happening. And I refuse to wait 2-3 years for a major update. That would just suck. A lot. I like the yearly cycle, even with all the bugs that crop up, which I'm fine with. No software is perfect, and all software is going to have bugs and/or issues. Also, pushing back the cycle to 2-3 years would basically kill WWDC. WWDC is a yearly event, and that's where they showcase new OS releases, such as releases for iOS. If they reduced the iOS release cycle to 2-3 years, RIP WWDC as iOS is basically the primary attraction at the conference.
There's no reason they can't have big updates in regular builds. I don't see it happening either. They just really need to focus on quality control again. You could use the excuse that they're focused more on the iPhone because it's their biggest revenue source, but iOS 11 is a steaming pile of dookie, so it's definitely not their resources. They need to fix some things inside the company.
 
I sure hope so! As a matter of fact, I am really hoping Apple does not release 10.14. this summer and just focuses on fixing the loooong list of bugs in this operating system.
that´s why I'm still on the latest Sierra release that seems to be pretty stable and "bug free". I have had so many issues last couple of years with always rushing into the latest release so I finally gave up on their buggy SW and happily staying on the latest Sierra. My experience is - fI you really need a stable machine for work don't gamble with the latest Apple OS
 
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There have been many big changes in OS X, such as moving to x86, killing Carbon and QuickDraw, or replacing initd, etc. with launchd. APFS doesn’t stand out next to those.
It may not stand out to you, but it is definitely the biggest change the OS has seen thus far. They built it from the ground up. I've been through those other changes as well and yes I agree they were big changes.
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Doesn't compute.
What's confusing to you? Both of what you responded to makes perfect sense.
 
Still waiting for messages in iCloud
Yes, and AirPlay 2. Both have been promised for 10.13 so they should arrive within the next few months.

Given it’s tied to the HomePod—currently scheduled to deliver before the end of April—AirPlay 2 is likely a higher priority. Maybe they’ll both drop at the same time, fingers crossed for 10.13.4!
 
There's no reason they can't have big updates in regular builds. I don't see it happening either. They just really need to focus on quality control again. You could use the excuse that they're focused more on the iPhone because it's their biggest revenue source, but iOS 11 is a steaming pile of dookie, so it's definitely not their resources. They need to fix some things inside the company.
Right. The way I look at it is that Apple had a choice given the changes they targeted for iOS 11 and High Sierra: ship stable or ship on time. They made their choice.

I suspect it's the same reason AirPlay 2 was pushed, Messages in iCloud was (indefinitely) pushed/abandoned, and the HomePod was delayed. Their resources seem oversubscribed across the board and/or the management is setting unrealistic targets that are slipping.
 
It may not stand out to you, but it is definitely the biggest change the OS has seen thus far.

Utter nonsense. Early OS X even used to boot from UFS. APFS per se is a big effort, but from an OS perspective, it’s just one layer of many.

They built it from the ground up.

APFS? Yes. OS X? No. It’s still an evolution of NeXTSTEP.
 
Doesn't really concern me.

It has been there for ages and nobody found out, or the NSA was in it which I doubt or it was a intensionally made that way back then without the knowledge that it could be potentially dangerous later on.
Been on OS X/macOS since the beginning and had never had any problem.

True, it wasn't a problem because the vulnerability wasn't exposed. Now that it's out there, it's only a matter of time before people start to exploit it. I mean, the code to open the soda machine has been the same for years and years without incident. But some kids figured out how to change the prices and now your soda costs $69.69. Only uh, I guess probably more worrisome than that.
 
Oh please, 100GB? No. macOS requires about 10-15GB for a fresh installation. Also, the whole point of the unified OS means that Apple will install only the Macintosh components on a Mac, and the mobile components on an iPhone/iPad/etc. Windows 10 does pretty much the same thing... I believe it's called a modular installation.

Also, nothing is truly impossible.


Microsoft tried to cram the same OS on every device. Thus they had a failed (preWin10) mobile OS, tablet OS, and pc/server OS. Apple was right when it decided to write OSes with only the functions necessary in each memory/storage footprint available. Your mythical AppleOS would not run on an AppleWatch if it was wrapped in the aOS. How would you install it? OTA? Then why not keep it as it is? Separate code bases for different function. Sometimes you cannot fit a toaster into a fridge.
 
He has magical powers.
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No, it wasn't. It's a brand new file system ... the biggest change to OS X since it was first debuted.
While a file system is a dramatic change on OS level it should be simply adding 1 more driver. It could be counted as 2 if you count the one on EFI level as a separate one.
 
I'm hoping that most of these bugs are simply attributed to High Sierra being a brand new file system and that the next iteration will be a lot better. But the pattern over the last few years has been that Apple has just lost the ball on quality control lately.

Do we have a solution for fusion drives yet?
 



Apple today seeded the fifth beta of an upcoming macOS High Sierra 10.13.3 update ...

Maybe they finally bring back the feature to print to HP Laser Printers again? The Airprint driver does not cover ((m)any of) the features delivered by HP such as brochure printing etc. Not that HP Laser printers (e.g. M552dn) or high sierra were something totally new in the universe by now (grumble)... How can they break such a standard (with their obvisouly poorly tested new PDFKit) in the years 2018 post christ for christ's sake? Professionalism long gone to hell?
 
There's no reason they can't have big updates in regular builds. I don't see it happening either. They just really need to focus on quality control again. You could use the excuse that they're focused more on the iPhone because it's their biggest revenue source, but iOS 11 is a steaming pile of dookie, so it's definitely not their resources. They need to fix some things inside the company.
Yeah, I agree that they need to fix some issues in their company structure. Very much so. The past few years haven't been the greatest of friends towards Apple. I really, really hope that this year will be different.
 
Yeah, I agree that they need to fix some issues in their company structure. Very much so. The past few years haven't been the greatest of friends towards Apple. I really, really hope that this year will be different.
Me too. :(
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Do we have a solution for fusion drives yet?
Apparently the only solution right now is to not have a fusion drive. :confused: Hopefully there's a fix in the near future.
 
From this line It's not yet clear what improvements you just do copy and paste from old posts :)
 
I will skip HS entirely, for me it's the worst version of macOS released yet. Huge battery drain, slow and unresponsive on my rMBP 2015 (had it till the previous beta). Since I reversed to Sierra, everythings perfectly fine again. :)
I’m tech, I install High Sierra everyweek in costumers Mac, it is fast and stable. Online paranoia always dominate forums.
In my experience 90% of users blaming OSes are indeed wrong configuration or user errors.
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How long will it take them to fix Command-B not working for BOLD in the MAIL program?

How many times to I have to file the bug? Command-B clearly works here, but not correctly in MAIL?

And every new update still confuses mail servers in the MAIL program requiring remembering passwords and such. Isn't the Keychain supposed to make this not happen?

Btw, Command B hasn't worked since Sierra.

I know someone is going to say, c'mon, it's your keyboard, but it's not as I see the flash at the top of the screen showing the key was hit, not to mention I've tried multiple keyboards with the same result. How can they not fix something so simple? Do I type too fast for Apple?

It makes me seriously wonder if they know what they're doing or there's just not enough people working on this. :(
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Still no RAID support...

Or at least let us keep using the old file system for High Sierra....

Still can’t upgrade my Mac mini server because of Raid 1....
 
I’m tech, I install High Sierra everyweek in costumers Mac, it is fast and stable. Online paranoia always dominate forums.
In my experience 90% of users blaming OSes are indeed wrong configuration or user errors.
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It's not online paranoia. I did numerous fresh installs on my laptop, tried to reset smc and pram, tried official and beta software and tried apfs and JHFS, all leading to a much slower and instable result than I had with previous macOS versions. Also battery life at least for me seems to be definitely worse. So I doubt it's a faulty configuration but more a lack of software quality.
 
How long will it take them to fix Command-B not working for BOLD in the MAIL program?

How many times to I have to file the bug? Command-B clearly works here, but not correctly in MAIL?

And every new update still confuses mail servers in the MAIL program requiring remembering passwords and such. Isn't the Keychain supposed to make this not happen?

Btw, Command B hasn't worked since Sierra.

I know someone is going to say, c'mon, it's your keyboard, but it's not as I see the flash at the top of the screen showing the key was hit, not to mention I've tried multiple keyboards with the same result. How can they not fix something so simple? Do I type too fast for Apple?

It makes me seriously wonder if they know what they're doing or there's just not enough people working on this. :(

Eh...I just checked with my mail app with High Sierra (MacBook Air mid 2013) and typed something and hit command+B...

It worked....

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Your right. Apple has fallen way short in the software quality assurance department. With the security vulnerabilities, it seems like it is only a matter of time before something really bad happens. Apple has lost their mojo with their software and it has been doing sharply downhill over the last couple of years.

Not defending Apple on this, but working in security some years ago...as the OS gets more complicated and as time goes bye, more and more issues in security will come along (its normal unfortunately). Security issues will ALWAYS be around and will get worse as more people understand coding and the complexities of technology.

QA concerning security vulnerabilities is not really the issue, Apple is better than most about working on fixes as fast as possible and if able...

the issue is really the "sloppiness" in putting things out just to make the launch day or hit the yearly cycle, making "the low hanging fruit" older Macs obsolete to keep the machine going is more of the issue.

Coding sloppiness is the issue..
 
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Oh please, 100GB? No. macOS requires about 10-15GB for a fresh installation. Also, the whole point of the unified OS means that Apple will install only the Macintosh components on a Mac, and the mobile components on an iPhone/iPad/etc. Windows 10 does pretty much the same thing... I believe it's called a modular installation.

Also, nothing is truly impossible.
man many people will love what you said about windows 10 to be true but many old school users hate the fact that Microsoft merge the OS after the last true windows which was windows 7, the nightmare started from windows 8 upward, it is a tablet or a PC , I always like the idea , one OS for desktop PC'S and Laptops, another OS for tablets etc ,but they put unnecessary components and processes on a windows desktop, who needs all those tablet services on a desktop pc , at least give the user the option to remove tablet mode, a desktop pc don't need it, this is why I like apple, iOS for iPads, iPhones etc and Mac OS for Macs, I really hate windows bloatware. the way it used to be was perfectly fine.
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Still no RAID support...

Or at least let us keep using the old file system for High Sierra....

Still can’t upgrade my Mac mini server because of Raid 1....
you can use raid on High Sierra but only in HFS+ file system, but there is another problem , the preboot partition, HS updates need to access that partition in order to install the update, so if you don't have that partition the update will fail, so you need another drive, a single drive non raid running High Sierra to install the update there, then clone that drive to the raid after you finished installing the update, yeah I know it sounds like too much trouble, I didn't have to do that in Sierra. I been a raid user on Mac OS up to High Sierra, when apple forced me to give up on raid, at least on bootable volume, what I do now if I need some extra speed, I use iram disk, also even if you have a Samsung 960 that app will help you not to wear out you Samsung drive if you do a lot of writing, I do all the heavy writing with iram disk so I can keep my Samsung 960 healthy so it can last longer
 
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