As a person in a household of Windows users? Things break all the time with 10 updates, sometimes the OS itself.
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Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.3 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]
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As a person in a household of Windows users? Things break all the time with 10 updates, sometimes the OS itself.
You seem to be consistently missing the point. As a person in a household of Mac users, things break with macOS updates as well. I keep the entire house backed up via a Synology NAS in the event of inevitable stupidness.
And you seem to be incapable of having an actual discussion. So as a cop out you use terms like "straw man" and "moving the goalposts" because you don't actually have anything to say.
SMB bugs I was running into with 10.13.2 are all fixed in the 10.13.3 public beta 5 - will take some time to see if the Active Directory bugs are also fixed.
Oh, really? Why don’t you answer any of the questions, then?
For instance, what makes you call APFS „definitely the biggest change the OS has seen thus far“? How is it bigger than the move away from UFS? Why is it significant at all, when OS X has a clean VFS layer?
Or, what makes you think Windows 10 Version 1709 isn’t a major release, but macOS 10.13 is?
Or, why do you appear to think features don’t impact stability?
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That’s great to hear. Maybe someday, macOS SMB reliability will reach that of Windows 2000. Not holding my breath, though. It’s been hit and miss since 10.0.x.
I didn’t miss that. You were the one that said Microsoft doesn’t break apps due to their amazing update strategy. And I pointed out that you’re wrong. It happens. It just happens less because Microsoft does much less in their updates.
Literally all of this is your opinion conflicting with mine and you being upset that I don't agree with you. I accept the fact that you don't think having a brand new file system is a big change. It's perfectly okay for you to think that. Just as it's okay for me to think what I think. We're arguing over subjectivity. The big Windows patches are big releases, but they are big releases within the confines of a unified groundwork so apps have a much longer lifespan within the Windows ecosystem than on macOS. When's the last time a macOS app could run on new version of macOS for 5+ years? The big point releases of Windows 10 add many new features just like macOS adds new features. I just got done saying why they're similar and how they're different. I think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm actually trying to have a discussion. You also continue to inject straw man verbiage all over the place, such as as beginning a question with your assumption of how I feel as part of the question. Things like "why do you appear to think features don't impact stability?" I never said anything related to that. I said that new features don't necessarily require a major OS release. The way you brought up this talking point which I never even started in the first places makes it look like you think that any features, regardless of how big or small, require a major release and therefore you can't have any stability when new features are added. The opposite can be asked since you keep going at this thought process of yours ... why don't you think stability is possible just because new features are added? None of this is anything I brought up in the first place. This all started with my comment wondering why iMessage doesn't have iCloud support yet ... and that I would prefer a stable OS. Neither of these comments of mine were correlated ... and my comment regarding iMessage was a feature set announced for the current OS ... not a future OS ... and I made no remark on wanting stability and new features. They were just two comments that started some of the dumbest back and forth dialogue I have ever had in these forums.
I didn't say apps don't break. Any update can break an app. This happens in both macOS and Windows ... and they happen in small updates as well as big ones. Nobody is saying either OS is perfect. I'm saying their update strategy allows for longer app lifespan. I feel like you guys are just trying to nitpick anything you can to keep arguing instead of saying ... oh ... I see what he means. I mean ... are you capable of at least seeing another person's viewpoint? Or is anyone that disagrees with you just an idiot in your eyes?
Maybe because it’s generally a dubious claim, and because you’ve previously claimed it would be due out this week?
I’m not essentially bothered about you. I put the info out there and that’s it. You’re welcome to believe it or otherwise. If you don’t believe it then that’s your problem, not mine. There are some who are interested in this info hence making it available. Bye.
Can we move the arguing to a different thread? I'd like to get back to the topic of this beta release. Has anyone found any important fixes?
You cannot update to High Sierra if your boot drive is under RAID. APFS is enforced regardless of what drive you have.
Like someone else mention, I need to have a separate non-RAID drive just to install High Sierra, and then clone it over to RAID.
It just such a stupid situation where Apple seriously ****ed up on this one.
Tested cmd+B in Mail on 3 different Macs (all running 10.13.3 Beta 5) with no problem whatsoever. Must be something with your setup.
If you don't want to share this info with anybody i suggest you keep your mouth shut in the near future when it comes to Apple's MacOS update releasedata.
If there is one person here that needs growing up it's you.
People asking friendly for a source and you give them this dumbass answer.
There is absolutely no reason to bite somebody's head off for asking where you get your info from.
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Apple’s operating systems already share much of their kernel & if MacOS is taking up 100gb on your system with only 40gb of total free space that might explain why your computer is a mess. There’s enough misinformation on here already without people inventing truths about things they don’t understand for the sake of posting. MacOS doesn’t have a significantly different footprint from iOS or even the Watch. It won’t be long till Apple’s fastest laptop offerings are running on ARM processors with an iOS kernel; indeed, my phone is faster at this point than my MacBook by a factor of at least two across the board.
Holy crap, 100 gb of space for MacOS?
Mine takes a little more than half that space 54,01 gb to be precise.
I guess you have some serious cleanup to do.