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Mine wont update. I click update, then confirm with "download and restart", it shows the cancel button for a few seconds then returns to "update"

I fixed it by installing through the terminal :

sudo softwareupdate -i -a
 
Personally I would like to see something like this:

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This is what I would like to see:

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This is what I would like to see:

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Here is how I would fix this issue:

You get the best of all possible worlds

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That way though the only thing the greeen button does s hide the dock compared to the Sys preference > Dock > Double click window's title bar to set zoom at this point it is useless....
 
Have they finally given the option to change the default behaviour of the green button to expand to maximum instead of going fullscreen? I have 100 people in my office building and nobody uses fullscreen on a laptop or desktop, they all hate it. There's NO point in fullscreen on a large screen.

And what about a proper cut/paste command (ctl+x / ctrl+v) in Finder? Is System Integrity Protection still screwing over developers like TotalFinder?
ok i personally use windows magnet but you can easily change the behavior of the green button by pressing the option key in your keyboard then you will notice that the icon will change from the regular full screen to a normal + then when you click on that and it will maximize the screen without going into full screen mode, i hope you understand my english.

this is the best app you can buy for a dollar https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

i see you have a hackintosh in your description so do i, do you know that the keyboard keys in a real mac are different compared to a windows keyboard , the ALT key is the option key in a windows keyboard.

pressing the windows logo and the letter a is select all
pressing the windows logo and the letter c is copy
pressing the windows logo and the letter v is paste
don’t press the keys at the same time
press and hold the windows logo 1 seconds before pressing the other key. and you see that it will work. i'm a happy hackintosh user , who hates windows and love apple software. everything in my system works. can't wait for sierra
 
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Mine wont update. I click update, then confirm with "download and restart", it shows the cancel button for a few seconds then returns to "update"

So did mine.. MacBook Pro Retina, mid 2012. I continued to press update until the progress bar showed up in the updates pane, though it wasn't progressing at all.. Left it overnight, and it had completed the install by the morning.
 
2012 rMBP getting very hot like some others. Appears to be a GPU problem with the GPU temp showing as 68º C. I am not even doing any GPU intensive work like converting a load of DNG images to 16 bit TIFF's.

Also Little Snitch not working properly, with menu bar info all greyed out. If you hover over the area, the upstream/downstream rate appears but in monochrome only. Have sent diagnostics to Little Snitch.
 
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"You can easily change the behavior of the green button by pressing the option key in your keyboard then you will notice that the icon will change from the regular full screen function."


Correct - this changes the full screen function (the green button) back to zoom to content.


This is not what Bladerunner 2000 is asking for.

Bladerunner2000 like many others is a switcher. He comes from either a Windows or a Linux background. Linux and Windows users are very familiar with the Maximize function.

Unfortunately, the Mac has never had a true Maximize button. The green button used to be a zoom button which would attempt to scale to the content. (A neat idea but not a maximize replacement)


Linux and Windows both have a Maximize button and the lack of one on the Mac can be very frustrating for switchers. I switched back in 2008 and I still miss the Maximize function. As a teacher I know hundreds of other switchers who also miss the Maximize function from Linux and Windows.

The graphic gives users the best of all the worlds:

- A zoom or scale the window to the content function.
- A full screen function.
- A true Maximize function which the Mac has never had.
 
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Looks like I'll have to update my Public Beta installation this afternoon when I get home. I've been swapping back and forth between the PB and my primary El Capitan drives lately.

I've not used Siri on the Mac as much as I thought I would. Perhaps its because I still have to click a button or press a key to activate it.
 
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"You can easily change the behavior of the green button by pressing the option key in your keyboard then you will notice that the icon will change from the regular full screen function."


Correct - this changes the full screen function (the green button) back to zoom to content.


This is not what Bladerunner 2000 is asking for.

Bladerunner2000 like many others is a switcher. He comes from either a Windows or a Linux background. Linux and Windows users are very familiar with the Maximize function.

Unfortunately, the Mac has never had a true Maximize button. The green button used to be a zoom button which would attempt to scale to the content. (A neat idea but not a maximize replacement)


Linux and Windows both have a Maximize button and the lack of one on the Mac can be very frustrating for switchers. I switched back in 2008 and I still miss the Maximize function. As a teacher I know hundreds of other switchers who also miss the Maximize function from Linux and Windows.

The graphic gives users the best of all the worlds:

- A zoom or scale the window to the content function.
- A full screen function.
- A true Maximize function which the Mac has never had.
ok i'm lost i honestly don't get it. i have shortcut keys setup in my keyboard, i have zoom in and zoom out , i also activate hidpi mode now my display looks beautiful better than the standard none hidpi mode.i have magnet that have so many good useful functions, the split view is even better and easier to use than EC build in split view. but i know it doesn't come with the os is a 3rd party app that you have to buy separately. but i really don't understand what you mean by maximize because i also used windows in the past and the way i maximize the windows in os is the same thing , unless i'm missing something. maximize is to take a smaller screen and make it as big as the screen without going into true full screen mode , if you compare mac full screen mode with windows explorer in full screen mode by pressing i think it used to be F11 you'll see that is exactly the same or at lest very close.
 
To see difference between Zoom and Maximize:

On an iMac (larger screen) open either Finder, Pages or Preview. Double click the title bar the window rarely opens to the full available space.

On a Linux or Windows machine clicking the Maximize button always opens the window to it maximum while leaving the dock and menu bar viewable. (See the picture of Safari above). Note: I had to drag and resize the window to get it to maximize.
 
I miss the start menu... Apple should have an option for it, it doesn't affect anyone who does not want it. It will be the best of both worlds! I know switchers who still misses it. The people in my office hate the Dock; its completely useless!

Why must Apple use Cmd instead of Ctrl which is the norm for the majority of computing users? Can't we have an option for this? Has this been fixed in the latest update?

On Windows the window controls are at the right? Why can't it be the same in Mac so that all the switchers can quickly get used to the macOS environment?

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I miss the start menu... Apple should have an option for it, it doesn't affect anyone who does not want it. It will be the best of both worlds! I know switchers who still misses it. The people in my office hate the Dock; its completely useless!

You can sort of make one by dragging the application folder to the dock and selecting the list view.
 
Have they finally given the option to change the default behaviour of the green button to expand to maximum instead of going fullscreen? I have 100 people in my office building and nobody uses fullscreen on a laptop or desktop, they all hate it. There's NO point in fullscreen on a large screen.

And what about a proper cut/paste command (ctl+x / ctrl+v) in Finder? Is System Integrity Protection still screwing over developers like TotalFinder?

This is a windows-disease. Why do you need applications always be maximised? I'm a "switcher" too, and have no problem with that. And what's the problem with fullscreen mode? There are enough ways to switch between apps.

Copy/cut/paste have different shortcuts -> just learn them, it's not that difficult. You managed to learn the windows ones too, right? ;-)


I don't get why people switch to a Mac and want it to look and behave like Windows. Aren't alle the little differences the most fun and interesting parts about different operating systems?
 
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To see difference between Zoom and Maximize:

On an iMac (larger screen) open either Finder, Pages or Preview. Double click the title bar the window rarely opens to the full available space.

On a Linux or Windows machine clicking the Maximize button always opens the window to it maximum while leaving the dock and menu bar viewable. (See the picture of Safari above). Note: I had to drag and resize the window to get it to maximize.
when i first started in 10.5 i used to drag and resize just like you mentioned and yes it used to bother me, i went from every mac version to the next one every year. i learn mac os quick, i also saw tutorial videos and read some books even i was an advance windows user but i wanted to learn as much as possible. all the tricks, all the options and i did. but that was the option that always bothered me, so i do understand the valid point, don't take this the wrong way, i'm not telling you to buy anything. i'm just telling you my experience. so i bought magnet and man i'm glad i did , i can set screen position or mode by shortcut keys or by dragging them to any corner. if i click and hold and and take the screen to the top in goes into normal full screen mode automatically. like a said before i know is not a build in option but sometimes if we want some kind of customization. we have to buy 3rd party apps, i also understand that at least the normal full screen option should be include it in mac os by default. but little by little apple add 3rd party feature to mac os, some people don't like little by little and they want things fast. let me give you a few examples of some 3rd party apps added to mac os, i don't know if you remember but if you wanted to use a non apple ssd drive in your mac you had to pay for a 3rd party app to enable trim, then later apple added the sudo trim command so now you don't have to buy the 3rd party app, another one is the option to rearrange the icons in the menu bar, while you previously had to use a third party app to do that, now that option is available in sierra. magnet is the first and only app that i bought in the app store.
 
bladerunner2000 you can also disable SIP if you want to. you should know that if you are a hackintosh user. you can also disable SIP in real macs too. so everything that you mentioned has a solution. the real purpose of SIP is to protect the user not to screw developers. if you take a look of sierra the option to allow from every where has been remove, and that was done to protect the user too, but just like SIP you can also use a terminal command to re enable that option so you can have and use allow from anywhere option again.
 
Metal is the way.

Face it, nobody is going to support Vulkan.

1st, only AMD is supporting it, meaning only about 50% of the Windows market.

2nd, DirectX 12 will be the standard on Windows PC's and Xbox.

Telling developers that Vulkan is okay is a shot in the foot, will rule out future nVidia cards, which the majority would prefer, and currently are better for laptops.

How much support does metal have? I can't think of a single pro app or game which supports it. It's a dead API.

Vulkan is already taking off. ID showed huge performance gains in Doom when they switched from OpenGL to Vulkan. And that's on windows, where the open GL driver is light years ahead of Apple's train wreck open GL driver.

From what I've read about metal is horribly immature and even in Sierra isn't at parity worth Open GL.

Standards are always better. Vulkan is the open graphics API of the future. Metal is still born.
 
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How much support does metal have? I can't think of a single pro app or game which supports it. It's a dead API.

Unity and Unreal Engine support it.

100's of millions of devices on the hands of people already support it.
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From what I've read about metal is horribly immature and even in Sierra isn't at parity worth Open GL.

You must be talking about Vulcan which no PC or Android device supports.

Metal is working perfectly last time I saw, for a long time...
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Doesn't WoW:Legion use the metal API?

If you mean the latest version, then yes.
 
Looks like I'll have to update my Public Beta installation this afternoon when I get home. I've been swapping back and forth between the PB and my primary El Capitan drives lately.

I've not used Siri on the Mac as much as I thought I would. Perhaps its because I still have to click a button or press a key to activate it.


I did this to activate siri with my voice, works very well

http://www.macworld.com/article/309...ey-siri-to-your-mac-running-macos-sierra.html
 
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Have they finally given the option to change the default behaviour of the green button to expand to maximum instead of going fullscreen? I have 100 people in my office building and nobody uses fullscreen on a laptop or desktop, they all hate it. There's NO point in fullscreen on a large screen.

And what about a proper cut/paste command (ctl+x / ctrl+v) in Finder? Is System Integrity Protection still screwing over developers like TotalFinder?


These things are already possible. To expand instead of go full-screen, double-click the window chrome. To copy and move (instead of paste), press command + alt + v.
 
don't think this is off topic but i hear some complaints about some basic function in mac os, so i just want to point out one basic function that i love in mac os that windows don't have, this might seem insignificant for some people but since the first time i tried mac in leopard 10.5 i have always love and like this option. if you use mac os you can eject the cd dvd bluray tray then you can close it from right there, this is the open, close option in the menu bar. windows don't have that, you can eject the drive but windows doesn't have the close option. i think that should be an option that windows should have, in windows you have to manually close the tray. so you see i can also complaint about little things.
 
Can anyone confirm the Public Beta 4 build number? I thought they were supposed to be the same as the Developer build numbers but I'm seeing 16A284a. I'm only concerned because the first time I ran the install, my computer seemed to lock up on a black screen with the keyboard illuminated. After about 15 minutes of that, I shut it off and started up again, ran the installer again, and I'm still seeing the same build number.
 
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