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wow. we are already getting APFS? :D

Wasnt expecting it until WWDC. That by itself should be considered a big update.
I don't think APFS will be enabled by default in macOS until WWDC.

It's a big enough under the hood change to finally justify a major version number change, so we may see macOS 11. (Lining up with iOS 11, and allowing them to avoid 13 for another two years.)
 
APFS for all so soon?

I assumed that would be opt-in for a while. They said 2017, but I didn't expect it to go out to everyone so soon.

Does make sense to put it out first on iOS though, less chance of maybe a rogue Mac app maybe doing something APFS ends up not liking.
 
APFS for all so soon?

I assumed that would be opt-in for a while. They said 2017, but I didn't expect it to go out to everyone so soon.

Does make sense to put it out first on iOS though, less chance of maybe a rogue Mac app maybe doing something APFS ends up not liking.
Why give mobile users the option of choosing their file system? It's completely transparent, and it's not as if you're dealing with multiple volumes.
 
I'm just noticing there is a tiny delay when an app is closed, what opening animation are you seeing?

Like this , ss from vid
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Can anyone theorize if older devices using the A5 chip (iPhone 5, iPad 4) would benefit from APFS?
 
I could be wrong but it seems to me it's quite a bit faster, if that is the case could someone do a benchmark before and after this update.

It seems to fly on mine, could APFS make that much of a difference, if that is the case I can't wait for APFS on MacOs.
 
I could be wrong but it seems to me it's quite a bit faster, if that is the case could someone do a benchmark before and after this update.

It seems to fly on mine, could APFS make that much of a difference, if that is the case I can't wait for APFS on MacOs.
I got Single Core 3348/Multi Core 5624 on a 7+ 10.3
 
I could be wrong but it seems to me it's quite a bit faster, if that is the case could someone do a benchmark before and after this update.

It seems to fly on mine, could APFS make that much of a difference, if that is the case I can't wait for APFS on MacOs.

I agree. I am currently developing an app using quite a lot of filesystem access and I have the feeling it is a lot faster. Especially starting the app!
 
I got Single Core 3348/Multi Core 5624 on a 7+ 10.3

Thanks for taking your time, I have a 6S though and already updated, should have done it myself but forgot.

I agree. I am currently developing an app using quite a lot of filesystem access and I have the feeling it is a lot faster. Especially starting the app!

We just have to wait until some tests are done, like a side by side video.
 
View attachment 685274 This may be normal but I haven't had it before - there's an Apple ID account section at the top of settings, showing settings, iCoiud, and devices using that ID.
All I want is split screen for FS

iPhone 7+

Me too. The iPad has had it for a while now. I used to think the 6s wasn't powerful enough and RAM limited it but with 3GB and the A10 this should be standard on at least the 7plus!
 
Me too. The iPad has had it for a while now. I used to think the 6s wasn't powerful enough and RAM limited it but with 3GB and the A10 this should be standard on at least the 7plus!
I don't think split screen is a great experience on a screen that small. I've seen it on Android phones and everything is so big and hard to use. I could be wrong though as I haven't used a device with it for a long period of time. What I do see being useful and really cool is PiP for iPhone.
 
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I don't think split screen is a great experience on a screen that small. I've seen it on Android phones and everything is so big and hard to use. I could be wrong though as I haven't used a device with it for a long period of time. What I do see being useful and really cool is PiP for iPhone.
Fair enough. What's PiP?
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Fair enough. What's PiP?

Picture in Picture. Got it. Thanks.
 
Can anyone theorize if older devices using the A5 chip (iPhone 5, iPad 4) would benefit from APFS?

There are couple of things we need to consider first to answer your question:

1. APFS in terms of I/O (that is - input-output, read and write data) focuses on improving foreground apps and tasks. It is reasonable to think that background tasks can wait a bit longer to read or write data they need.

2. It doesn’t make processor or graphic processor to handle more task or make them faster.

3. Apps are multithreaded - if app is made along Object-C or Swift guidelines - UI - user interface - is main thread and background tasks are secondary thread (i.e. on slow connection the app you are using downloads data, but user interface is still responsive and probably shows some indicator that data are being downloaded, you can easily switch from one tab to another).

4. Open/save file: with APFS it is possible to do atomic updates - which mean: app is saving only changes to a file or load from a file only things that have changed, not the whole file.

With all that considered: performance gain with APFS would be from reading data needed by foreground app first, using less bandwidth (connection between CPU, RAM, and flash memory) while loading and saving data, postponing some disk operations that are requested by background processes.

To sum it up: you should see some improvements in situations like scrolling through conversation in imessage, saving changes to modified picture, opening files.

(Obviously, sorry for my lousy english, it’s not even my third language)
 
Here is the new "Recent" icon list (along left side) in CarPlay

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Nice. This actually addresses my biggest complaint with CarPlay. It's been driving me crazy that there is no quick access to the "Now Playing" app from within other apps, and that the only app given quick access privileges is Maps. If I'm already in Maps, I'd like to be able to pause whatever's playing, since for some reason CarPlay-compatible vehicles always seem to neglect adding a Play/Pause button on the steering wheel!
 
There are couple of things we need to consider first to answer your question:

1. APFS in terms of I/O (that is - input-output, read and write data) focuses on improving foreground apps and tasks. It is reasonable to think that background tasks can wait a bit longer to read or write data they need.

2. It doesn’t make processor or graphic processor to handle more task or make them faster.

3. Apps are multithreaded - if app is made along Object-C or Swift guidelines - UI - user interface - is main thread and background tasks are secondary thread (i.e. on slow connection the app you are using downloads data, but user interface is still responsive and probably shows some indicator that data are being downloaded, you can easily switch from one tab to another).

4. Open/save file: with APFS it is possible to do atomic updates - which mean: app is saving only changes to a file or load from a file only things that have changed, not the whole file.

With all that considered: performance gain with APFS would be from reading data needed by foreground app first, using less bandwidth (connection between CPU, RAM, and flash memory) while loading and saving data, postponing some disk operations that are requested by background processes.

To sum it up: you should see some improvements in situations like scrolling through conversation in imessage, saving changes to modified picture, opening files.

(Obviously, sorry for my lousy english, it’s not even my third language)

Appreciate the info. Who knew a file system could be so exciting? And your English seems on par with any native speaker I know—and far above the average MacRumors posting.
 
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