It’s included in Safari 11 (for Sierra and El Capitan). You can download the first beta from the Apple Developer site.
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Apple Seeds First Beta of macOS High Sierra to Public Beta Testers
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As with any first beta, I just create a USB install disk and then install on an external USB-C SSD drive. Up and running smooth with my 2016 MPB. Once I feel confident that I can move it to my MBP, I'll do so. From the past couple of betas, that will probably be beta 2 or 3 and once I have verified that my "core apps" work for me.
Just keep the access utility on hand for when you need to download it again. It’s the same for the Developer Releases too.
Got everything working (very speedy 2015 MBP now) except for Time Machine. Have turned TM off/on, rebooted the Mac and the Time Capsule, deleted and reselected the disk, but it still won't work. Says disk "Backup Failed: No disks are available to back up.
The MBP is using APFS.
The MBP is using APFS.
Here's your answer:
You need to understand that this is not an 'Update' - this is a beta (probably very buggy for some people) release, so people can test the OS and start to iron out those bugs. If you're 'testing an OS on a computer that you use for every day stuff you are in for a shock, usually, when your whole life becomes about recovering what you shouldn't have needed to recover.
Sierra's Beta last year was relatively good, for me, but there were still bugs even after the GM release.
I'm not going anywhere near High Sierra on my main workstation iMac specifically because of the purportedly higher risk of completely upgrading the file system. I might download the beta onto one of my laptops, but it's not entirely necessary. The OS is bringing some tweaks and some small feature improvements, but nothing that I can't wait couple of months for.
It has to be said that with Apple rebuilding the file system throughout, that there will be issues. It's probably best to leave the Beta to more advanced users/testers and be patient. Wait for the GM.
Oh dear. Sad face.
Very curious: I can access the disk through Time Machine to restore old files, but when I try to backup to the same disk, it says it is not available.
So it seems to be able to read from the disk, but not write to it.
Holy **** that took a while, but everything seems ok so far. I have not tried to use any major programs yet, I did find a bug with youtube+firefox full screen has a line at the bottom. No big deal. BUT HOLY **** do pages load fast and finder is the opposite of high. Man I love this update. Going to go update the mini as well. I probibly won't need a new mac mini ever if apple keeps updating OSX like this, **** is fast. (EDITL: Coda 2, does not work heads up to any web developers using it.)
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That's the whole point of a beta. Everyone tests it on a variety of hardware, things go wrong, you report it to Apple, Apple fixes issue. It's not supposed to be a stable release for those who want new things first.
But I need to know if this is compatible with the latest version of Microsoft Outlook for Mac and if I should use the new AFS as I don't want to risk killing my Outlook functionality as its my main email application.
From Microsoft directly - https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...h-Sierra-80bbd3cc-2412-4593-988a-1c5607b26b28
Microsoft Office support for macOS 10.13 High Sierra
Apple announced a major new version of macOS 10.13 High Sierra on June 5th, 2017. While the new operating system is not generally available to all users right away, developers and beta testers may have access to beta seeds. Read more to learn about the supportability of running Office for Mac on 10.13 High Sierra.
Office 2016 for Mac
See "What version of Office am I using?" if you don't know what version you're on.
Version of Office
Supportability
15.35 and later
Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote will install and run on 10.13. Not all Office functionality may be available, and you may encounter stability problems where apps unexpectedly quit. During the beta period for macOS 10.13 High Sierra, no formal support is available for this Office configuration.
We strongly recommend that you back up your existing data before trying the software.
If you encounter issues using Office 2016 for Mac on High Sierra, please send us feedback so we can address them. In Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote, you can click on the Send a Smile icon in the top-right of the app. For Outlook, choose Contact Support from the Helpmenu.
15.34 and earlier
These versions are not supported on 10.13. In some cases, you may not be able to launch the Office apps. For example, users will see the following error message when attempting to launch Outlook 2016 ver. 15.34:
If you installed Outlook 2016 ver. 15.34 or earlier, and are not being offered an update to 15.35 or later, download the latest Office 2016 for Mac Suite Installer here.
Office for Mac 2011
Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook and Lync have not been tested on macOS 10.13 High Sierra, and no formal support for this configuration will be provided.
All applications in the Office for Mac 2011 suite are reaching end of support on October 10th, 2017. As a reminder, after that date there will be no new security updates, non-security updates, free or paid assisted support options or technical content updates. Refer to the Microsoft Support Lifecycle for more information.
Microsoft Office support for macOS 10.13 High Sierra
Apple announced a major new version of macOS 10.13 High Sierra on June 5th, 2017. While the new operating system is not generally available to all users right away, developers and beta testers may have access to beta seeds. Read more to learn about the supportability of running Office for Mac on 10.13 High Sierra.
Office 2016 for Mac
See "What version of Office am I using?" if you don't know what version you're on.
Version of Office
Supportability
15.35 and later
Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote will install and run on 10.13. Not all Office functionality may be available, and you may encounter stability problems where apps unexpectedly quit. During the beta period for macOS 10.13 High Sierra, no formal support is available for this Office configuration.
We strongly recommend that you back up your existing data before trying the software.
If you encounter issues using Office 2016 for Mac on High Sierra, please send us feedback so we can address them. In Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote, you can click on the Send a Smile icon in the top-right of the app. For Outlook, choose Contact Support from the Helpmenu.
15.34 and earlier
These versions are not supported on 10.13. In some cases, you may not be able to launch the Office apps. For example, users will see the following error message when attempting to launch Outlook 2016 ver. 15.34:
If you installed Outlook 2016 ver. 15.34 or earlier, and are not being offered an update to 15.35 or later, download the latest Office 2016 for Mac Suite Installer here.
Office for Mac 2011
Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook and Lync have not been tested on macOS 10.13 High Sierra, and no formal support for this configuration will be provided.
All applications in the Office for Mac 2011 suite are reaching end of support on October 10th, 2017. As a reminder, after that date there will be no new security updates, non-security updates, free or paid assisted support options or technical content updates. Refer to the Microsoft Support Lifecycle for more information.
Read my post here from MS: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...lic-beta-testers.2054173/page-5#post-24755244 - Official MS link: https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...h-Sierra-80bbd3cc-2412-4593-988a-1c5607b26b28 and Im on 15.35 and according to MS:
and later
15.35 and later - Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, and OneNote will install and run on 10.13. Not all Office functionality may be available, and you may encounter stability problems where apps unexpectedly quit. During the beta period for macOS 10.13 High Sierra, no formal support is available for this Office configuration.
I read it. And still it’s recommended to install it on a separate partition or external drive.
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Apple today seeded the first public beta of macOS High Sierra to public beta testers, allowing non-developers to download and test the update for the first time since it was introduced at the Worldwide Developers Conference on June 5. The first public beta of macOS High Sierra corresponds to the second developer beta, which was updated this morning.
Beta testers who have signed up for Apple's beta testing program will be able to download the macOS High Sierra beta through the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store.
Those who want to be a part of Apple's beta testing program can sign up to participate through the beta testing website, which gives users access to iOS, macOS, and tvOS betas.
Potential beta testers should make a full Time Machine backup before installing macOS High Sierra, and it should not be installed on a primary machine because betas are unstable and often have many bugs. Caution should be used with macOS High Sierra in particular because when installing it, there's an option to switch to the new Apple Filesystem (APFS), an update that takes some time.
macOS High Sierra is designed to improve and refine macOS Sierra. Along with a new, more efficient file system designed for modern storage, the update introduces Metal 2, the next-generation version of Apple's Metal graphics API with support for machine learning, external GPUs, and VR content creation.
High Efficiency Video Encoding (HEVC aka H.265) is coming in macOS High Sierra, and many of the existing apps are being updated. Photos features a new persistent side view and editing tools for Curves, Selective Color, and Live Photos, while Siri is gaining a more natural voice and support for more music-related commands.Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
Safari offers a new autoplay blocking feature for videos and Intelligent Tracking Prevention to protect your privacy, while Mail storage is being optimized to take up 35 percent less space. iMessages can now be stored in iCloud, and there are new iCloud Drive file sharing options and new iCloud storage family plans.
For a complete picture of all of the new features you can expect to see when macOS High Sierra is released in the fall, make sure to check out our full macOS High Sierra roundup.
Article Link: Apple Seeds First Beta of macOS High Sierra to Public Beta Testers
[doublepost=1498824744][/doublepost]This update turned my mac book pro into a brick be carful with it
Love these one line comments with no info about the system updated, any pre-existing software issues, older hardware, data corruption, no info if the new AFS was used, etc. Its akin to saying a certain brand of car always fails. You may have had data corruption issues before the update as well - but have provided no proof of anything beyond this comment.
Those are the pitfalls of general admission to public beta, unfortunately. A lot of the same one-liner complainers almost never submit legit bug reports either, so they really are contributing nothing to the process and adding unnecessary noise.
Ok, so finally got HS installed on my 2015 MBP. But it would not convert to APFS during install. Fine, I'll do it later.
Boot into recovery, attempt APFS conversion. No joy. Reboot & repeat. Same thing. Any suggestions? I have a 2015 3.1/16/512 SSD rMBP. Can't seem to find any reason why it's failing.
Boot into recovery, attempt APFS conversion. No joy. Reboot & repeat. Same thing. Any suggestions? I have a 2015 3.1/16/512 SSD rMBP. Can't seem to find any reason why it's failing.
Yes I know. That's why I did a backup. I know what I'm doing. It just didn't work for me. Maybe I'll upgrade around beta 4 once I see some release notes.
I installed the beta last night on the lowest end latest gen Mac Mini w/ an external SSD (upgrading from Sierra) and aside from it consuming a bit more memory and the UI being a little laggy occasionally, it has completely frozen up on me twice. Seems pretty normal otherwise. It still has the old filesystem and after reading some of the posts here I'm gonna keep it that way for now
It’s the memory consumption that’s killing my early 2011 MacBook Pro. The memory pressure is always high. It’s usable, but not great. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next build. Previous developer builds would just seize up all the time, so they made some improvements at least.
