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It sounds awesome. Does anyone know how i can get each version of the leopard 10.5.3? as in each beta seed, like what the developers get? :confused::eek:
 
maybe they'll also finally get to the issue of mail not hiding (when instructed to) when starting at login

you mean like the annoying 25 finder windows of network drives that are set to hide but clutter all the screen every login?
 
Has anyone else noticed a glitch when you minimize the DVD viewer? Whenever I minimize the viewer a space appears in the dock where the viewer should be, but nothing is there. When I mouse over that spot it says "viewer" and I can click on it to un-minimize it, so there's no lost functionality... it's just annoying. I hope they fix it.

EDIT: It did this before I hacked the dock to be 2D.
 

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I wouldn't install Leopard on my dual g5 either. It wasn't designed for dual g5s. Try installing it on a computer that is not so old. It runs great on my Intel macs. Much better than Tiger did initially. Much less buggy.
Leopard was designed to run best on intel (only because of the faster CPUs) but it's still designed to run perfectly on PPC. It should run perfectly on all the Macs it says it supports on the box, remember how many G4 and G5 users are still around. Actually it runs a lot of stuff better on the dual G5 than my Macbook.. Apple aren't as fanatical about "Everyone must upgrade right now!!" as some of the users, hehe.

I've had it running perfectly on my dual G5 since launch, and on a friends G4 iMac.. You don't need cutting edge equipment to get massive benefit. The speed boost on my dual G5 was pretty immense.

Saying that, I always look forward to updates. Shutdown times are a bit weirdly long lately, I wonder if they can speed that up at all.
 
Nice find. It looks like they're also fixing the widely known issue of Mail.app not consistently giving notification sounds. It's about damn time.

And what ever happened to the little black and white spinning thing?
 
Maybe Apple should have spent the huge Mac OS X advertising budget they are spending with Leopard on Tiger instead.

I am without a doubt an Apple fanboy from day 1, but I have to say that compared to Tiger, Leopard has been just plain buggy all around from day 1 even through 10.5.2. Initially, I had all kinds of trouble just installing it (apparently due to my older Superdrive, I dunno). Since then, we've seen complaint after complaint after complaint from graphics issues to wifi not working, icons disappearing, just one thing after another and many of these issues serious ones! And that doesn't even include the complete rejection of some of Apple's interface changes with the dock. I just do not remember any of these serious issues when Tiger was released or maybe I just didn't have any of them myself. I'm not sure.

I'm sure Vista is far worse, but Apple better be careful with its commercials because Microsoft could easily start wading through all the Leopard complaints at Apple Discussions and here for a come-back commercial and like everything with Microsoft, even if it's untrue, they'll grind it into peoples' psyche with a huge ad budget.

And yes, I can attest from trying on several G4s that Leopard was Clearly NOT designed to run "perfectly" on any Powermac G4 computer, period. And I even have issues on my G5s, just not as bad. :-(
 
I was just about to post that this is one bug that I really hope gets fixed in the next release. I can't create files on any of the network shares at work (but I can create empty folders, strangely). There are long threads on the Apple Support forums, and NTFS ACLs seem to be the common theme.

Has anybody here managed to get around this problem?

There are a few ideas posted at macwindows.com, but none worked for me.

I know this is a much more difficult problem to fix than something mundane like no swoooosh when an email gets sent in Mail.app, but it kills productivity in a business environment, so I really hope that Apple will put serious effort into a fix.

BTW, I reported the problem to Apple, I think you should do it too. The more people who report it, the better chance we have of getting it fixed.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
 
My G5 is two years old. That's not an old computer. And if you read my post, you'd see I also have a new MacBook. Leopard runs about the same on both.

It's an old design. It's a power PC. Save yourself a lot of worry and headache. Don't upgrade! If you have an intel mac then fire away!

Leopard was designed to run best on intel (only because of the faster CPUs) but it's still designed to run perfectly on PPC. It should run perfectly on all the Macs it says it supports on the box, remember how many G4 and G5 users are still around. Actually it runs a lot of stuff better on the dual G5 than my Macbook.. Apple aren't as fanatical about "Everyone must upgrade right now!!" as some of the users, hehe.
I've had it running perfectly on my dual G5 since launch, and on a friends G4 iMac.. You don't need cutting edge equipment to get massive benefit. The speed boost on my dual G5 was pretty immense.
Agreed. My dual G5 runs Protools DSP farms and older software. I never upgrade that computer as it is just for audio edting and works beautifully.
A single G5 I have has run Leopard pretty well. I'm glad I upgraded that.
And on my Intel laptops, well....it screams!
 
Yeah, because Apple offers hundreds of different models, they are amazing that way; they are not like Dell who just offer the Dell mini, the iDell and the Dell Pro.

:D

Yeah and because Dell make their own OS. Apple doesn't know what every consumer does with their system once its purchased. I doubt there are any people that use their system with factory settings and only pre-installed software or Apple certified software.
 
Will switch production machine to Leopard once it hits 10.5.3

10.5.2 is very stable for any production system. Sure beats Vista SP1.

I'm writing this response from Ubuntu 8.04, which I would never put on a production system.
 
I have to agree with the small minority here... my Leopard seems to be running quite nice so... while I always love an update, I don't have any big concerns that need addressed right now. :apple:
 
I wouldn't install Leopard on my dual g5 either. It wasn't designed for dual g5s. Try installing it on a computer that is not so old. It runs great on my Intel macs. Much better than Tiger did initially. Much less buggy.
Unless you're tied down by Tiger only applications and their libraries then Leopard is perfect for the G5. It's much more responsive and Apple tweaked the thermal tolerances as well. You don't get as much fan noise for the same CPU usage spikes.
 
Cool But...

Cool, but actually Leopard is running fine for me. I'm reading a lot of posts where people say they have applications quit all the time. I'm not having any of those problems. Still though, maybe the new update will bring minor improvements and possibly some new features.:rolleyes:
 
This could be caused by defective RAM. Try running Ramtest.
Good idea! But this doesn't explain why the problem doesn't occur on my Windows XP install using bootcamp. Also, as I menioned in my previous post, the problem disappeared when I installed an update (I think it was a security update, can't remember) after 1.5.1. But it's back after I updated to 1.5.2.

I'm guessing you haven't changed the HD on your macbook, if so, then its probably you have a lot of stuff on it, and it takes some time for the 5400 RPM HD to get the file, happens sometimes on my 500GB HD with 70GB used thats running at 7200 RPM and getting a rarely accessed file.
My HD is not that big! No, this is definitely abnormal. Could it be that using migration assistant from my iMac running Tiger to my MacBook running Leopard may have missed some indexing step? I've also noticed that search in Mail.app isn't finding everything it should be finding.

But I'll check to see how fast file access is under my Windows boot, just to be sure.

Another thing that annoys me to no end is the delay between the moment I click on Mail.app to check for new mail, and the moment it actually starts downloading them. I never had this problem on Tiger.
 
Sounds good - should be interesting to see what issues it resolves, eg the Wireless problem


Which wireless problem is this?

There's an issue where -- upon coming into a new wireless "zone", and launching Safair or Firefox, it says "You are not connected to the internet".

I wish the WIFI grabbing were faster.
 
I wonder if they'll make loop actually work more than two times in Automator. That would make it much more useful.
 
2- Finder is HORRIBLY slow whenever I click on a folder and want to see its content. For at least 2 seconds you think the folder is empty, but then finally the content appears.
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Hi there.

I had the slow finder problem. I posted about it on the Apple forums and a user responded with this fix. Worked like a dream for me. Credit to 'andrespi':

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Fix:

Open terminal.app and write:

defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
killall Finder

Go to username/Library/Preferences and delete .GlobalPreferences.plist

Open again terminal.app and write:

defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
killall Finder

Restart, config again the System Preferences and OK!


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-Mooey
 
I do not know if my problem is really "leopard" related, but my macbook pro with leopard feels slower than tiger did. At least, slower than my brother's new macbook that came with leopard pre-installed. My macbook pro has an faster processor and twice the memory and still, opening apps on my macbook pro is slower, the same with startup time. Sometimes I ask myself why the hell I bought a macbook pro. Clean installs on both computers, macbook 2.2 ghz 1gb memory and a macbook pro 2.4 ghz 4gb. And the difference is really noticable. Is this because leopard is pre-installed on his macbook or bad drivers on the macbook pro.. ?

I hope 10.5.3 and maybe some driver updates would solve the problem.
 
I highly doubt that sense you totally ignore that guys question WHAT APPLICATION IS IT, oh its leopards fault shut up its not, its a stupid 32bit app your using. Get over it and admit it.

The application I use is Maxon Cinema 4D. The problem is that I need more than 4 GB for some architecture visualisations. But it crashes when I reach the magical 4GB mark. Maxon says it is a problem of Leopard because it doesn´t support Applications with more than 4 GB.
 
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