Apple Seeds First Mac OS X 10.5.3 (9d10) Version

[thejadedmonkey]

How about making Hotmail work with Safari, the most standards-compliant browser out there?

Safari works fine with Hotmail, it's Hotmail that's set up specifically to not play nice with Safari.

And just so someone says it, I installed Leopard on release day, and never had a problem with it. 10.5.1 brought random KP's, but 10.5.2 fixed that. Partitioning still doesn't make sense to me. I'm running out of bugs here. Leopard is soo much better then any version of Tiger ever was!

Just so some people understand that Leopard isn't all evil

 

[50548]

you know this stuff doesn't really help unless you send it to Apple.... why the need to waste board space and bandwidth posting the whining and wishlists here?

Leopard has been simply perfect for me (especially with the new features and fixes of 10.5.2), so I have nothing to expect from 10.5.3...GO APPLE..!

 

[Eraserhead]

Thanks for the Option+Shift small adjustment tip; I didn't even know that existed for volume control

Yeah, its a great tip, not one I knew either.

 

[zedsdead]

Apple needs would make Back To My Mac work across the internet. While on the same router, no problems, but trying in any other way just is awful. It's pathetic that the issues have not been addressed in any meaningful way, considering it is a major selling point of Leopard.

And yes, I have already complained to Apple about it.

 

[Daveoc64]

Ummm... All these issues people are listing? You have err.... like reported them to Apple?

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

More constructive (and more likely to get results) than whining about it on some out of the way forum.

Unless you like whining just for the sake of it

Some of these issues are reported - often Apple deletes threads on its discussion forums if it's not happy with people reporting them.

As for their feedback forms, I'm pretty sure they're ignored.

Apple Support - hmm have I rebooted the computer?

 

[dr_lha]

Try washing them 10 times and you'll go back in time. Yeah yeah and your point is?

That there is no causal link between your OCD need to continuously run "Repair Permissions" and your lack of issues with Mac OS X.

 

[Manic Mouse]

I've had 10.5 since launch day, and installed it as the "oh so evil" upgrade over Tiger. And everything has run perfectly, from day one. I've had maybe two crashes, but then I got the occasional crash in Tiger too. All the new features run flawlessly, and I use them daily. I couldn't go back to Tiger now.

So 10.5.3, very welcome, however I thought I'd chime in with my good experience with Leopard.

 

[EagerDragon]

Portable Home Directory

Looks like Apple is adding this new feature (Portable Home Directory) so we can have our home directory on any Mac we use.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this feature does not exist on 10.5.2, it will be introduced on 10.5.3 as AI is reporting.

 

[megfilmworks]

I'm on the planet Earth. I installed Leopard on my dual core G5 and tried to load fonts. It told me the fonts all had problems and wouldn't load them. I tried to load the same fonts on my iBook running Tiger, just to test it, and they were fine. I now have a MacBook, and I'm hoping I don't run into the same problems. BTW, I'm 41 and have been using Macs since the Apple IIe. Don't get uppity, junior. I never had those problems with Tiger, never. From a pro user's standpoint, Leopard isn't practical yet. The company I work for won't even go near it either, and that is odd for an Apple product.

I wouldn't install Leopard on my dual g5 either. It wasn't designed for dual g5s. Try installing it on a computer that is not so old. It runs great on my Intel macs. Much better than Tiger did initially. Much less buggy.

 

[FiveEcco]

I hope they will fix this damn problem with with the memory allocation.
So I can use more than 4 GB on my 3-D-Application!!!

 

[MacsAttack]

Safari works fine with Hotmail, it's Hotmail that's set up specifically to not play nice with Safari.

And just so someone says it, I installed Leopard on release day, and never had a problem with it. 10.5.1 brought random KP's, but 10.5.2 fixed that. Partitioning still doesn't make sense to me. I'm running out of bugs here. Leopard is soo much better then any version of Tiger ever was!

Just so some people understand that Leopard isn't all evil

Leopard has work quite well for me as well. There are two (2) issues I've noticed, but one is not a show stopper and the other may be more of a problem with Adobe (and is also not a big issue - I just have to remember not to use Spaces while running Photoshop or the cursor goes weird on me). Where most people who have problems come unglued is when they are using some third party apps or hacks. The classic one has to be all the InDesign users who were screaming that Leopard has nerfed their app - only for it to turn out that they were running a pirate pre-release CS3 Beta...

My legit copy of InDesign works just fine thanks - and has done since 10.5.0. I'm sure there has to be issues somewhere. I just have not discovered them yet.

So. Yes - there are issues with Leopard. As there were with every previous version of OS X (or any other OS or major application). However lots of people never encounter them and get on quite nicely enjoying the Apple experience.

 

[EagerDragon]

I hope they will fix this damn problem with with the memory allocation.
So I can use more than 4 GB on my 3-D-Application!!!

What 3D application?
Sounds like your application maybe 32 bits. Do they have a 64 Bit version?
Doe not sound like an OSX bug, sounds like a 32bit app.

 

[xUKHCx]

Looks like Apple is adding this new feature (Portable Home Directory) so we can have our home directory on any Mac we use.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this feature does not exist on 10.5.2, it will be introduced on 10.5.3 as AI is reporting.

There is a feature of OS X server called External Accounts with the description

External Accounts is a new Portable Home Directory feature that allows you to store a user’s home directory on a portable FireWire or USB drive. The account can be fully managed using Workgroup Manager and protected using FileVault.

So perhaps that is being mentioned.

 

[EagerDragon]

There is a feature of OS X server called External Accounts with the description



So perhaps that is being mentioned.

Sounds like that maybe it. Not sure. Hope you do not need have server to use it.

Kinda strange to introduce this new feature it in a bug fix patch.

 

[Eraserhead]

Some of these issues are reported - often Apple deletes threads on its discussion forums if it's not happy with people reporting them.

That is pretty lame. I have to admit.

As for their feedback forms, I'm pretty sure they're ignored.

I doubt it, the bug reports are definitely not ignored.

 

[leekohler]

I wouldn't install Leopard on my dual g5 either. It wasn't designed for dual g5s. Try installing it on a computer that is not so old. It runs great on my Intel macs. Much better than Tiger did initially. Much less buggy.

My G5 is two years old. That's not an old computer. And if you read my post, you'd see I also have a new MacBook. Leopard runs about the same on both.

 

[Compile 'em all]

I am using Tiger and have resisted the "upgrade" promised by Leopard but yet to be delivered by Apple.

10.5.2 is easily one of the fastest operating systems I have ever used, and is at least 3 to 4 times faster than tiger on the exact same hardware. I have a powerbook G4 and can easily feel any kind of performance increase on such old hardware.

The bugs I currently have on Leopard are very very minor and far from annoying.

 

[akakillroy]

Wonder if they saw this article ;-)

http://www.computerworld.com/action...eBasic&articleId=9072959&source=NLT_PM&nlid=8

You know it makes me mad to think the term "hack" is suppose to be something BIG, saying "Oh I hacked the Apple, I thought it was suppose to be un-hackable"

What a bunch of nerds LOL

 

[logana]

Wonder if it will fix Safari so that it actually useable with eBay (esp eBay.co.uk) ????

 

[chameleon]

The big issue for me is the networking problems.

Leopard does not play well with network shares on Windows servers. This is a show stopper for anyone in a corporate network.

If this isn't fixed in this release, I think I might scream...

 

[eastcoastsurfer]

Sounds like you may need to increase your memory.

I have 4GB of RAM. Even then, an application should not lock up the computer. Run slowly is fine, force a reboot - no!

 

[bluedoggiant]

My MacBook came with Leopard, but I wish there was a way to "downgrade" to Tiger for free. Is that possible? If so, is a data backup necessary?

My current deal-breaker issues with Leopard:

1- there is a trail of bitmaps that follows my mouse pointer everywhere it goes, it's extremely distracting. The problem disappeared with one update that came between 1.5.0 and 1.5.1, and which wasn't advertised as fixing this issue. Now that I've gone to 1.5.2 the problem is back.

2- Finder is HORRIBLY slow whenever I click on a folder and want to see its content. For at least 2 seconds you think the folder is empty, but then finally the content appears.

I haven't seen problem #1 reported anywhere, which makes me even more pessimistic about it ever getting a permanent fix. Problem #2 on the other hand has been bugging others.

I honestly don't care about any of the new features that Leopard has brought. In fact, I'd happily live with Panther, which served me well on my previous machines. But when you buy a new Mac you just don't get that kind of choice, it's very frustrating. I just want a reliable OS.

I'm guessing you haven't changed the HD on your macbook, if so, then its probably you have a lot of stuff on it, and it takes some time for the 5400 RPM HD to get the file, happens sometimes on my 500GB HD with 70GB used thats running at 7200 RPM and getting a rarely accessed file.

...why did my post get deleted?

 

[adrian.oconnor]

The big issue for me is the networking problems.

Leopard does not play well with network shares on Windows servers. This is a show stopper for anyone in a corporate network.

If this isn't fixed in this release, I think I might scream...

I was just about to post that this is one bug that I really hope gets fixed in the next release. I can't create files on any of the network shares at work (but I can create empty folders, strangely). There are long threads on the Apple Support forums, and NTFS ACLs seem to be the common theme.

Has anybody here managed to get around this problem?

 

[cnote678]

Hopefully they fix quick look. When trying to quick look on multiple PDFs I've been getting a lot of system lock ups lately. Lost a decent amount of work the other day when I need to find a quote from a group of PDFs and the quick look locked up the whole computer forcing a reboot. Grr!

Do a lot of people have problems like this? I mean, for the most advanced operating system ever it seems like there are a lot of complaints.

 

[Diatribe]

That is annoying. Still, if that's your only complaint, then Leopard is going pretty well.

Well mail's new mail sound could be working too, I wouldn't mind.