Apple Seeds First macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 Beta to Developers

10.13 feels like an alpha a bit, maybe 10.13.1 will feel like a beta..

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TM won't work on APFS even if the drive is an SSD. I lost my TM data testing this theory out and had to start from scratch back to a HFS format.

 

Why? I thought older versions of macOS have the problem as well?

 

Any news on 3rd party SSDs and APFS?

 

If I run this, will it show in the App store update and going forward would I be on the Developer schedule?

 

This week...I finally upgraded my office Mac mini from Snow Leopard to...El Capitan.
(Shock: I quite like it!)
So I guess I'm not really in the "early adopter" crowd. Enjoy High Sierra all!

 

If the TM storage volume is HFS+ (as it has always been), you can run backups of APFS (and HFS+) volumes to it. Just don't reformat your TM storage, and you can back up whatever you like. Which you now know from experience.

 

That's how it should work, yes.

 

This is the update I'm waiting for. Way less bugs in the .1 releases.

 

You are right. I didn't know that.

 

I can't say for sure what the issue is for exchange, but I came across a thread that suggested Exchange 2016's switch to NTLM over HTTP2.0 is what is causing issues. There's an option to enable HTTP1.1 from the server side which supposedly makes everything work. But my colleague and I determined we don't want to enable legacy stuff. Since exchange 2016 has been out for a while, it's apple that needs to fix their client. What I don't understand is that the iOS mail client works fine (minus the bug that patched today in iOS 11 but that's a different issue I believe). Why isn't the macOS client working?

EDIT: Here's the thread I've been reading https://social.technet.microsoft.co...d-apple-mail-and-safari-only?forum=Exch2016CM

 

What???
It works, I have a samsung pro in my 2012 MBP, works.(Even Trim works)

 

been on it for months and not a single crash very stable as it has been for lots of others

 

Fair enough but the GM release of High Sierra is working really well on my machines....Macbook Air,27/21''iMacs. The APFS has made a definite improvement in the finder speed and [touch wood] is stable.

 

I agree, I'm actually wondering if messing with it by running betas will F it up.

 

Yup, I actually APFS'ed all my external data SSD's which I hope I don't regret. So far ok, but I wish I knew not to do the TM one too. Seems kind of odd that Apple didn't get that function ready for this release simultaneously.

 

If you're concerned about potential issues and have only one main system, then don't run betas. Usually the 10.x.x betas are much less issue-prone than 10.x betas, but I've still had issues occasionally.

 

It's because iOS uses ActiveSync, I guess.

 

Thanks, I'm well versed on the topic and am backed up to kingdom come. I got it. I have been running High Sierra since June. I was pretty much saying that tongue in cheek.

 

They’re putting work into unifying macOS and iOS which is great. And modernizing their file system. And bringing sorely missed features from the defunct aperture into the photos app. All good changes.

 

There is some rumor that APFS relies on firmware contained in Apple OEM SSDs for error correction - 3rd party SSDs don’t contain this firmware and could lead to eventual data loss.

https://pikeralpha.wordpress.com/2017/07/04/do-i-use-apfs/

 

This happened to me. I installed the public beta a couple of weeks ago and was left with a basically unusable machine, particularly Safari. Rogue Amoeba was trying and failing to update Instant On, but I didn’t realise that it was the cause of the general slowness. Ended up restoring from TM and didn’t upgrade until yesterday (after updating all third-party apps). Everything working fine now.

 

Nice, thanks, it worked.

 

Anyone else having problems with the updated Photos app? It's running really slow on my 2011 MacBook Air. The previous version ran fine.

 

I was being facetious.