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"You should consider Windows in the future if you feel that strongly."

What type of attitude is that? It is well known that improvements come from suggestions and complaints.

Apple needs to focus intensely on Quality.

Apple has gotten to the top because of its reputation for quality. Customers are willing to pay a higher price because they demand higher quality. Long time Apple customers are becoming disillusioned! (Read the latest 500 reviews on the App Store - over 50% are negative).

Many of these negative reviews could have been avoided if Apple had paid attention to the Apple Seed Testers (They appear to have been ignored during the development of Yosemite).


Focus less on appearing fashionable and more on USER EXPERIENCE!

Spend a little money and hire people to search the forums for issues. In addition, have a team of engineers dedicated to solving these issues.


Allow users to customize the user interface. Microsoft was forced into allowing greater customization when the Windows user base started growing dramatically in the 90's. Microsoft faced constant pressure and complaints for customization features. When Microsoft removed the customization features in Windows 8 their customer base was outraged and created Microsoft all sorts of problems. Apple is now in the same position.

Here are the features I wish Yosemite had.

Ability to customize OSX in the following ways:

Ability to change Dock color, and Finder Sidebar colors if transparency is turned off.

Ability to set which items are transparent or not.

Light colored transparency or dark colored transparency.

Optional larger font size for the Menu bar. (This is becoming a big issue with potential switchers.)

Option to set the default behavior of the “Green Button”. Personally I wish I could set it to open full window and not full screen. Why? Quick access to the Menu bar and the Dock are important to me. In addition, I don’t like the delay switching between full screen and non full screen.

Option to set the default screen size upon opening an app. This option could be placed in Get Info. I suggest three options – Full Screen, Full Window, Windowed.

It would be so nice not to have to rearrange the app each time I open it.

Arrow Snap – Microsoft’s best contribution to graphical computing (for arranging windows side by size on the screen).

Send Apple your Feedback at:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

In addition, Tweet Tim Cook on Twitter.
 
I'll stick with 10.10, these new OS updates seem to just be causing more problems than they are fixing
 
Why is it called beta? Their releases are buggier than beta, and their beta's are more like alphas.

Making microsoft look good.

feel free to enjoy your microsoft if it pleases you.

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That's because it isn't Apple.

Things have become much more complex, and with so many different types of environments nowadays (from more-than-decade-old ARM7's to the unbelievably clever i7 series multiplied by an intimidating number of toolchain configurations), changing anything in the toolchain makes a particular build for one application worthless.

It is a problem today —*and it's a problem for everyone. Whether you write JavaScript in node.js or C for a Debian package, it's a tricky game to get compatibility right.

Apple didn't screw up anything out of the ordinary. They're not "degrading". The reason there are so many more betas is the fact that the landscape has become a lot more fragmented.

I'm sure either Apple or Google will push an update to make things "alright" again. Meanwhile, please realize that this is the point of having a beta.

Betas are worthless if one is to assume nothing is going to be broken.

Very good point indeeeeeeed. To the whiners: it would be great if you could report your problem to apple and help to improve the products. At your leisure of complaining. No one else knows how to complain so hard when you don't even have WiFi.
 
"You should consider Windows in the future if you feel that strongly."

What type of attitude is that? It is well known that improvements come from suggestions and complaints.

Apple needs to focus intensely on Quality.

Apple has gotten to the top because of its reputation for quality. Customers are willing to pay a higher price because they demand higher quality. Long time Apple customers are becoming disillusioned! (Read the latest 500 reviews on the App Store - over 50% are negative).

Many of these negative reviews could have been avoided if Apple had paid attention to the Apple Seed Testers (They appear to have been ignored during the development of Yosemite).


Focus less on appearing fashionable and more on USER EXPERIENCE!

Spend a little money and hire people to search the forums for issues. In addition, have a team of engineers dedicated to solving these issues.


Allow users to customize the user interface. Microsoft was forced into allowing greater customization when the Windows user base started growing dramatically in the 90's. Microsoft faced constant pressure and complaints for customization features. When Microsoft removed the customization features in Windows 8 their customer base was outraged and created Microsoft all sorts of problems. Apple is now in the same position.

Here are the features I wish Yosemite had.

Ability to customize OSX in the following ways:

Ability to change Dock color, and Finder Sidebar colors if transparency is turned off.

Ability to set which items are transparent or not.

Light colored transparency or dark colored transparency.

Optional larger font size for the Menu bar. (This is becoming a big issue with potential switchers.)

Option to set the default behavior of the “Green Button”. Personally I wish I could set it to open full window and not full screen. Why? Quick access to the Menu bar and the Dock are important to me. In addition, I don’t like the delay switching between full screen and non full screen.

Option to set the default screen size upon opening an app. This option could be placed in Get Info. I suggest three options – Full Screen, Full Window, Windowed.

It would be so nice not to have to rearrange the app each time I open it.

Arrow Snap – Microsoft’s best contribution to graphical computing (for arranging windows side by size on the screen).

Send Apple your Feedback at:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

In addition, Tweet Tim Cook on Twitter.

Well said! I would also like to see those features for each program screen size, I can't believe it doesn't already exist! And also I really don't understand why we can't have any two applications side by side on an internal as well as an external display (as in a laptop) it is so convenient when you are trying to do some work.

-Mike
 
Is there an option to not make it look like a teenage girl OS yet? Maybe that's .3? ;)
 
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I have a bug where the MacBook Pro is docked in clamshell mode. Every so often it will totally shut off. When it restarts it says sleep/wake failure. Ive had this since the betas and submitted multiple bug reports. Apple fix this one! Take some time with 10.10.2 and make it solid please.

Same thing on my late 2010 MBA. Refit was giving me the problems.
 
feel free to enjoy your microsoft if it pleases you.

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Very good point indeeeeeeed. To the whiners: it would be great if you could report your problem to apple and help to improve the products. At your leisure of complaining. No one else knows how to complain so hard when you don't even have WiFi.

So you suggest that LIKE YOU, he should just turn around and bend over? After spending PREMIUM price for supposedly "premium" product? He probably bought it because of this claims and doesn't want windows BS....yet he got just that. Mc OS Vista.
Real world doesn't work like this. You don't just buy some product, pay premium price for it and then just throw it away if you found out you got screwed.
Here is an idea....maybe instead of paying insane amount of $ for some beats company or some burberry chick....try to hire some engineers.....you know, the ones that actually make products. If anyone actually read some interview from apple employees he would realize that there is insane small team of engineers working on projects. Sure they are probably god like, but time constraints are insane and they are bound to make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes when in hurry. What is next for bean counter Timmy.....moving development to india? Maybe put snop dogg on os x dev team and pay him couple of billions so he can get all the weed he likes.
Tim C(r)ook: "Oh our products don't work and i have **** loads of work to do? Nah, I would just rather go to some convention to support gay people and use Apple for my personal goal. People will still buy our product so why bother"
 
don't they gettit?

I remember the times when people feared the updates like Guantanamo. Some folks are still on System 7, mind the fact that their systems are working just fine. Please Apple, don't do this to your userbase.
 
Has the issue been fixed on where if your running an external display off a Macbook, on start up the log in screen SHOULD appear on the external display and not on the Macbook?

I made my Cinema Display my primary display, and upon starting the computer every time, the log in screen still appears on my MacBook Pro!

Very annoying

Have you enabled FileVault? If so, that login is actually pre-boot and is used to unlock the encrypted boot disk, which is why it shows on the laptop screen (the OS hasn't loaded at this point so it doesn't know what preferences have been set)
 
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"You should consider Windows in the future if you feel that strongly."

What type of attitude is that? It is well known that improvements come from suggestions and complaints.

Apple needs to focus intensely on Quality.

Apple has gotten to the top because of its reputation for quality. Customers are willing to pay a higher price because they demand higher quality. Long time Apple customers are becoming disillusioned! (Read the latest 500 reviews on the App Store - over 50% are negative).

Many of these negative reviews could have been avoided if Apple had paid attention to the Apple Seed Testers (They appear to have been ignored during the development of Yosemite).


Focus less on appearing fashionable and more on USER EXPERIENCE!

Spend a little money and hire people to search the forums for issues. In addition, have a team of engineers dedicated to solving these issues.


Allow users to customize the user interface. Microsoft was forced into allowing greater customization when the Windows user base started growing dramatically in the 90's. Microsoft faced constant pressure and complaints for customization features. When Microsoft removed the customization features in Windows 8 their customer base was outraged and created Microsoft all sorts of problems. Apple is now in the same position.

Here are the features I wish Yosemite had.

Ability to customize OSX in the following ways:

Ability to change Dock color, and Finder Sidebar colors if transparency is turned off.

Ability to set which items are transparent or not.

Light colored transparency or dark colored transparency.

Optional larger font size for the Menu bar. (This is becoming a big issue with potential switchers.)

Option to set the default behavior of the “Green Button”. Personally I wish I could set it to open full window and not full screen. Why? Quick access to the Menu bar and the Dock are important to me. In addition, I don’t like the delay switching between full screen and non full screen.

Option to set the default screen size upon opening an app. This option could be placed in Get Info. I suggest three options – Full Screen, Full Window, Windowed.

It would be so nice not to have to rearrange the app each time I open it.

Arrow Snap – Microsoft’s best contribution to graphical computing (for arranging windows side by size on the screen).

Send Apple your Feedback at:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

In addition, Tweet Tim Cook on Twitter.

Companies have a certain ethos, and Apple's ethos -- baked in by Steve Jobs -- was that Apple knows best, and the customer has no idea what they want. Until you get rid of Apple's know-it-all syndrome, they're not going to listen.

The only way to change that is for Apple's sales to start falling.
 
Animations are much smoother system-wide (especially in About This Mac!). Yay. This feels like Apple-quality animations again.

Agreed, the first thing I noticed with Yosemite was the About tabs being so jerky and lagged badly. I don't know why this was not polished before release. No other OS version has this issue.
 
Agreed, the first thing I noticed with Yosemite was the About tabs being so jerky and lagged badly. I don't know why this was not polished before release. No other OS version has this issue.

Well, they made big changes to UI on Yosemite. No other OS X release had to deal with this many changes at once. It's expected that the UI is going to be more jerky than usual. And I don't think it'll get fixed soon either. Maybe in the next release. I'm annoyed by it as hell though.
 
There is an old saying.. If its not broke don't fix it. I have IOS6 on an Iphone 4s, I make calls, receive and send tx and brows the net, it just works. I have Mavericks on a MBP 2014, and although the obsession with Apple to make everything thinner and the pain in the arse with adaptors, no drivers from 3rd party suppliers etc etc, Mavericks is stable.

What you get with Yosemite I don't miss because I have never used it. People who are early adopters get what you get, bugs, crashes, crap signal strength and hair loss. Just wait before you have to have the latest thing, it's called being a grown up.
 
Option to set the default behavior of the “Green Button”. Personally I wish I could set it to open full window and not full screen. Why? Quick access to the Menu bar and the Dock are important to me. In addition, I don’t like the delay switching between full screen and non full screen.

If you miss the old behaviour, you can double click the top bar. ;)
 
"You should consider Windows in the future if you feel that strongly."

What type of attitude is that? It is well known that improvements come from suggestions and complaints.

Apple needs to focus intensely on Quality.

Apple has gotten to the top because of its reputation for quality. Customers are willing to pay a higher price because they demand higher quality. Long time Apple customers are becoming disillusioned! (Read the latest 500 reviews on the App Store - over 50% are negative).

Many of these negative reviews could have been avoided if Apple had paid attention to the Apple Seed Testers (They appear to have been ignored during the development of Yosemite).


Focus less on appearing fashionable and more on USER EXPERIENCE!

Spend a little money and hire people to search the forums for issues. In addition, have a team of engineers dedicated to solving these issues.


Allow users to customize the user interface. Microsoft was forced into allowing greater customization when the Windows user base started growing dramatically in the 90's. Microsoft faced constant pressure and complaints for customization features. When Microsoft removed the customization features in Windows 8 their customer base was outraged and created Microsoft all sorts of problems. Apple is now in the same position.

Here are the features I wish Yosemite had.

Ability to customize OSX in the following ways:

Ability to change Dock color, and Finder Sidebar colors if transparency is turned off.

Ability to set which items are transparent or not.

Light colored transparency or dark colored transparency.

Optional larger font size for the Menu bar. (This is becoming a big issue with potential switchers.)

Option to set the default behavior of the “Green Button”. Personally I wish I could set it to open full window and not full screen. Why? Quick access to the Menu bar and the Dock are important to me. In addition, I don’t like the delay switching between full screen and non full screen.

Option to set the default screen size upon opening an app. This option could be placed in Get Info. I suggest three options – Full Screen, Full Window, Windowed.

It would be so nice not to have to rearrange the app each time I open it.

Arrow Snap – Microsoft’s best contribution to graphical computing (for arranging windows side by size on the screen).

Send Apple your Feedback at:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

In addition, Tweet Tim Cook on Twitter.

So agree with this. How about if Apple finally gives us UI choices on our computers and stops this one size fits all forced upon us. The idiotic tiny light font. We don't have bionic vision like Jony Ive supposedly has. Look at iTunes 12. I have the font on large and it's still like 9 or 10 point. Definitely need bold print in the drop down menus. I'm so tired of spending my time searching for font fixes because Apple optimized the display for retina screens. My MBP UI looks degraded with Yosemite.

Edit: Also, I can't stand the super light grey in the Safari menu bar. I want to be able to darken it. I've been looking for a fix for that too. So frustrating!
 
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I've just installed 10.10.2 on my Mac Mini. Now, for the first time in Yosemite, the tab switching animation in the About this Mac window is finally smooth. :cool:

This is actually good news indicating that SOME graphic adjustments are being done. The UI fluidity is abysmal in Yosemite. Mission Control is a slide show with more than 10 windows open.
 
I'm taking a stab in the dark posting on this thread because I usually don't bother. But then, I'm sure that Apple has employees checking out various forums to see customer feedback re: bugs. I've reported the UI and font problems six times now because this affects my work. What's the protocol these days, report three times per day until it's eventually fixed which could be six months from now?
 
Its a beta, of course it will crash...

May be true about constant Wi-Fi issues, and while u could easily blame theres many factors, if it worked in Mavericks and its worse in Yosemite, then that only proves its not factor issue. Its an Apple issue :)
 
Did they pull the update because neither of my Mac which are enrolled in appleSeed are seeing the update. It showed up last night but I didn't install, was going to this morning but the update is gone and isn't appearing again.
 
At the rate of which bugs are being fixed, I'm glad I sticked with Mavericks instead of upgrading. :eek:

You've got that right! With the rapid increase in system complexity, early adoption just doesn't make sense any more. Looks like I might wait for 10.10.3 release before I switch away from Mavericks or iOS 7.
 
Animations are definitely much smoother with this build.

Also, for me both Chrome Dev and Chrome Canary are crashing.
 
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Companies have a certain ethos, and Apple's ethos -- baked in by Steve Jobs -- was that Apple knows best, and the customer has no idea what they want. Until you get rid of Apple's know-it-all syndrome, they're not going to listen.

The only way to change that is for Apple's sales to start falling.

True, but are these really sales since it's free? Remember the old adage, "You get what you pay for."
 
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