Apple Seeds First OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite Beta to Developers With Mac Photos App

[houssein31]

Anybody know a way to have have this without paying the 100/y fee to be a developer???

Its actually one of the features I've been most excited, to have my photos on iPhone and mac synced together.

 

[robgendreau]

It's how it works on iOS. 3rd party apps have access to the OS level photo library where they can make changes (with your permission) and the photo is updated in the library where it's available to you in the Photos app or other 3rd party apps.

Photos for iOS and Photos for OS X were developed together so it's a pretty good educated guess that this is how it's being done in OS X.

In Aperture you could do this. How is Photos an improvement over using say Nik in Aperture? Or even as good as?

 

[mdwsta4]

I only use iPhoto to store images, not to edit them. All my photo sets/outings are separated into events and I'll create albums here and there for specific things. I do not use iCloud or photostream. I sync specific albums (wallpaper, vacation, etc) with my iPhone and iPad via the Photos tab in iTunes.

If I'm reading this correctly, all my events will be automatically turned into albums (fine). But unless I turn on iCloud I will not be able to sync specific albums with my iOS devices any longer (no bueno)?

 

[rocknblogger]

They sell a Photographer package that includes Photoshop and Lightroom for $10/month.

You can still buy Lightroom on DVD.

 

[jmantn]

This makes me feel both excited and nervous... My photo gallery is Sooo large and turns my computer into a barely responsive turtle.. I love iPhoto. I love the map and faces features specifically, but, i hate the fact that all my photos fit in to just one file. This is probably the only file, ive ever seen in my life, that is over 300gigs large... it makes me wish i used only a point and shoot camera, as well as my iPhone, and dissuades me from using my SLR..

I really hope that they solve the organization issue. Even, separating the iPhoto file into separate files, by year would be helpful.

please fix this apple. I would hate to switch over to Lightroom just so that my 1 year old iMac goes back performing like a new iMac...

You'll be pleased to know all the faces you've taken time to update within iPhoto/Aperture are not discarded. They're put into an Album and you click on a face and it'll bring you to all the pics you've tagged with that face.

There's actually quite a bit to be discovered it seems with this update, definitely feels as if there's plenty of room to grow and expand this app. Feels like a lot more to come and most likely with iOS9 and OSX10.11.

I'd also wager iLife apps are going to get an overhaul within the next 12 months as well as iWork was last year and I'm betting with the new framework they've seem to have made for the new photos app, I'm betting will eventually be carried over to iMovie and Garageband and possibly even Final Cut Pro X (here's hoping they don't come out and charge for that update).

 

[tkermit]

Script Editor has also been updated on this release as well, that wasn't mentioned however it's got a new icon and presumably some under the hood changes.

What's it look like?

 

[randian]

Wifi was fixed in the last update. Try to keep up before complaining.

According to a bunch of people on the 10.10.2 thread WiFi is NOT fixed.

 

[jmantn]

What's it look like?

Here Ya go. I had it in my dock and maybe the icon didn't change but after the install it went from an icon to a question mark which almost always means they've changed the app icon to some degree.

 

[ButteryScrollin]

Here Ya go. I had it in my dock and maybe the icon didn't change but after the install it went from an icon to a question mark which almost always means they've changed the app icon to some degree.

looks identical to 10.10.2 icon.
and same version number.

 

[venividivigor]

MacBook FaceTime led light goes off when you plug in or unplug iPhone from Mac.

 

[tennisproha]

I understand discontinuing iPhoto but why Aperture? Aperture is professional photography software. Will Photo completely implement Aperture features?

 

[KoolAid-Drink]

Here Ya go. I had it in my dock and maybe the icon didn't change but after the install it went from an icon to a question mark which almost always means they've changed the app icon to some degree.

The icon is exactly the same as 10.10.2; no changes there. Just double-checked.

 

[Partron22]

Has anyone checked whether the Photos App is scriptable?

 

[EDL]

Well, there's always Lightroom

Workflow-wise, Aperture is still superior over Lightroom, despite not having been updated in years. I’ve been holding out switching to LR because of its shortcomings but seeing Photos, I apparently have no choice.

 

[CKohkah]

Is this just for devs or is this part of the public beta program?

 

[EDL]

Professional Photographers: Photos is a platform for OSX, not just an app. The app is only the front end UI that Apple provides. Extensions are what will make this infinitely powerful for professionals. Imagine Pixelmator being able to natively tap into your Photos library and execute non destructive edits that will then become available to your library through Photos.app on your Mac, iPad and iPhone.

Other extensions will add power to those who need it. Need more fine tune control for your EXIF data? More automated importing? There'll be an extension for that. A whole ecosystem is going to pop up and it'll be a serious threat to Adobe's Photoshop/Lightroom monopoly.

Photo libraries are now supported at the operating system level. This is huge.

It doesn’t seem like you know Aperture. Aperture has been and still is superior in terms of workflow to every other Raw editior out there. Plugins and extensions will not replace that. For retouching and filters, I already go to Photoshop, that’s not gonna be any different. But Photos has lost Aperture’s core advantage. That’s the troubling part.

 

[dazed]

I'm hoping they split the app store and iTunes store up to separate apps (combine mac app store with iOS app store) and then create a separate Music/Video app.

iTunes is totally bloated, needs a rewrite and a name change since "tunes" is only part of what it does. It's a full media manager and shoehorning that functionality into what was a simple music player is silly.

 

[bluespark]

I'm still smarting about Aperture and its non-future as a 'professional' app running on 'professional' hardware.

I don't think I want to even bother trying this - it'll end in disappointment in a couple of years.

I love Aperture, too, but I don't understand your post. No quotes are needed: Aperture was indeed a professional app, and Apple obviously makes professional hardware. No one at Apple ever claimed that Photos would be a professional program or that was intended to replace Aperture 's functionality. And Photos looks to be a very capable replacement for iPhoto, which is what it was designed to be. Why not accept that Apple made a business decision and go find a program that fits your needs?

 

[fenderbass146]

Anybody know a way to have have this without paying the 100/y fee to be a developer???

Its actually one of the features I've been most excited, to have my photos on iPhone and mac synced together.

I am assuming it will be on torrents at some point. Nothing on a Mac prevents you from installing it as far as i know like they do on iPhone.

 

[bluespark]

I understand discontinuing iPhoto but why Aperture? Aperture is professional photography software. Will Photo completely implement Aperture features?

Apple was pretty clear that it would not. They are different programs for different types of users.

 

[EDL]

I feel the same. I'm expecting another FCPX experience, where many familiar, necessary professional tools are missing in version 1.0.0, and over the course of the next 1-2 years will slowly be introduced back into the mix. I'm now at a point where I feel that FCPX is a better tool than FCP 7 was, but it's been a long, slow road to get here, and I'm not so excited to start back down that particular path with Photos.

Unfortunately, this is not another FCPX experience. That’s what Aperture X was supposed to be but for reasons unknown to everyone, that project got nixed and then Aperture killed completely as well. Photos is nothing more than an improved iPhoto, much like iMovie was when it was completely rewritten after version 6. So no, from the looks of it, this will never be Aperture again.

It also wouldn’t make sense from a usability and development perspective to combine professional level with amateur. There is a reason for a separate iMove and FCPX, as well as GarageBand and Logic.

 

[EDL]

Aperture is still available lol they just stopped development to work on this app.

Um, Aperture is great and all but it has its bugs and performance problems. If there is no replacement for Aperture, and from the looks of it there isn’t, then there is no point to stick with it. Eventually, a system update will break it completely and you’re left out in the cold. Stopping development on an application is its death sentence and it gets sent on death row. It’s only a matter of time until it dies.

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Can someone please advise me which program has the best DAM (Digital Asset Management) between

1) Aperture
2) iPhoto
3) new Mac Photos
4) Lightroom

I don't care about filters, plugins etc. I just want the best *local* organization (not in the cloud). Thanks!

That was Aperture but it’s dead now. No other photo app does what Aperture can in terms of workflow and DAM.

 

[OCDMacGeek]

10.10.3 update seed just hit for me, with Photos included. I'm part of the public beta program, not a developer. Update is taking ages.

Glad to see photo books are still there. I was scared they might get the axe.

So photo books are imported? That's great. Any idea what happens if you also try to import a different iPhoto library from a different Mac into Photos on that Mac? Since Photos syncs all info, maybe they will merge? For a while I have had a few photo books in a different iPhoto library that I have wanted to merge into my main library. Maybe this would work.

 

[Chealion]

I am assuming it will be on torrents at some point. Nothing on a Mac prevents you from installing it as far as i know like they do on iPhone.

FWIW both the public beta catalog and the dev builds catalog are just a defaults command...

 

[ipedro]

In Aperture you could do this. How is Photos an improvement over using say Nik in Aperture? Or even as good as?

No you can't. Aperture makes a copy, sends it to the external app to edit and returns it finalized, a destructive edit. You can also edit inside Aperture with a plugin.

What Photos.app is doing is having one central library that any app can edit from outside the Photos.app while making non destructive edits that become available to either the Photos.app or any other third party computable photo editing app.

See how it's done in iOS and that's what you'll have in OSX. It's really a game changer.

What we need to be mindful of is that what we're seeing is a pre-Beta version of the app. A lot can change and probably will change before the app leaves Beta. We're seeing a pretty bare bones version of the app that will be added on to by both Apple and eventually third parties.