Apple Seeds First OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite Beta to Developers With Mac Photos App

[smulji]

For all that is that good....third party hosting or this will never go anywhere. iCloud drive, photostreaming, icloud photos...this is a complete and total mess. How hard is it to allow for using dropbox, flickr, or onedrive. I have over 50GB of pictures currently on onedrive. No way would I even attempt to figure out how this app would try to handle that.

Maybe that can be done with the use of 3rd party extensions?

 

[petvas]

The new Photos.app creates it’s own library file. Compare its size to the original Aperture library.

 

[Merode]

I don't believe they're hiding photos somewhere deep in filesystem. It destroys privacy, as you can't really keep photos in password protected .dmg.

I guess it must be the way it used to be - all pictures cramped in Library directory/file.

 

[Stuke00]

Finally! This download is not fast enough for my impatience

I have my mac enrolled for beta updates but I am not seeing anything available for my mac.

 

[DiabBarca]

"the company also indicated it would roll out a public beta "soon.""

says the verge

Yabba Dabba Dooooooo

 

[AppleInLVX]

I thought Creative Butt was if you wanted the full Adobe suite of products? Is it not possible to purchase Lightroom as a separate license, outside of Creative Butt?

I haven't looked into it recently, but the last time I did, you are correct, it is still available as a stand alone (although Adobe makes it very hard to find on their website--they very much want you on a subscription).

But I have zero faith that it'll remain that way. It's not a question of 'if' they make Lightroom a subscription service, it's certainly 'when'.

 

[Imory]

does it still have the "face" function in iphoto??? Yes i am yelling

Yes!

 

[imcquill]

The new Photos.app creates it’s own library file. Compare its size to the original Aperture library.

If you right click it, is there a "show package contents" item, and if so, what type of files are in there?

 

[petsounds]

I feel the same. I'm cautiously hopeful that it'll be good, but I can't imagine how it could be. My fear (and honestly, expectation) is that it'll be as much of a backslide in function and usability as Pages was when they gutted it.

Their bipolar commitment to professional users is something I really don't understand. It's always feast or famine with them, and not even consistent across the range of products. Why kill Aperture, but keep FCP and Logic? I mean I'm not complaining since I use Logic and am thankful they continue to update it, but it does feel now like the guillotine is looming.

If Apple was cash-strapped, I can see why they'd want to gut products which aren't returning enough revenue. But their pro products were always halo items. Why couldn't this new Photos app exist with and take from Aperture, the same way GarageBand receives some of Logic's pro features? Their attitude towards professional users continues to be opaque, confusing, and usually disappointing.

 

[andi242]

I see nothing in the MAS

same here. Located in Germany.

 

[richpjr]

I thought Creative Cloud was if you wanted the full Adobe suite of products? Is it not possible to purchase Lightroom as a separate license, outside of Creative Cloud?

Yes, you can buy Lightroom as a stand alone product with no subscription fee. Adobe has also announced that they will continue to offer this in the future with all new versions. You can also pick it up as a part of one of the Creative Cloud subscriptions.

 

[Kissaragi]

Im glad they took extra time to work on it. I haven't been impressed with apple software quality control over the last few months.

 

[mikecorp]

hmm

I'm quite sceptical. I like the Aperture app and the possibility to add plugins and closer photoshop integration. This looks like an Ok basic app, and many pros will move or moved to Lightroom. I hope they bring some smart features, filters and faster performance. Would be nice if the app would work on older macs too.

 

[allanfries]

OS X 10.10.3 Third time Lucky???

 

[ipedro]

Professional Photographers: Photos is a platform for OSX, not just an app. The app is only the front end UI that Apple provides. Extensions are what will make this infinitely powerful for professionals. Imagine Pixelmator being able to natively tap into your Photos library and execute non destructive edits that will then become available to your library through Photos.app on your Mac, iPad and iPhone.

Other extensions will add power to those who need it. Need more fine tune control for your EXIF data? More automated importing? There'll be an extension for that. A whole ecosystem is going to pop up and it'll be a serious threat to Adobe's Photoshop/Lightroom monopoly.

Photo libraries are now supported at the operating system level. This is huge.

 

[ButteryScrollin]

You can see the pin on the map in the get info pane of each photo, but you can't edit. grrr

 

[Cave Man]

Their bipolar commitment to professional users is something I really don't understand. It's always feast or famine with them, and not even consistent across the range of products. Why kill Aperture, but keep FCP and Logic? I mean I'm not complaining since I use Logic and am thankful they continue to update it, but it does feel now like the guillotine is looming.

If Apple was cash-strapped, I can see why they'd want to gut products which aren't returning enough revenue. But their pro products were always halo items. Why couldn't this new Photos app exist with and take from Aperture, the same way GarageBand receives some of Logic's pro features? Their attitude towards professional users continues to be opaque, confusing, and usually disappointing.

Please send this to tcook@apple.com.

Thank you.

 

[KdParker]

Does anyone know if the Public Beta Testers will get this Beta update today?

I don't think so.

 

[lvalenta]

But they're not safe, right? It's possible for anyone who grabs your iPhone to permanently erase something off of your Mac, right?

Photostream was great in that it worked one way. With Photos, as far as I can tell there's no way to lock down a "master" version of your library where the synced edits and deletions can't get to.

Am I right? I really, really want to be wrong. Someone please tell me I'm wrong. I won't be able to use this software if I'm right and I think it looks nice.

EDIT: From an article: For those who are not comfortable with storing their photos in the cloud, the feature is optional. You can simply store your images locally on your computer and use the Photos app for managing your files and editing.

Ok, so that's one way out, but is there any way to get the benefits of syncing but still protect my Mac's versions from being erased?

Sigh. Really, I just miss photostream.

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It's not definitive, but in the video they show the albums in Photos and it really seems to me as if it had taken his iPhoto events and turned them into albums during import.

Don't worry - that's why Apple created "album" Recently Deleted photos in iOS (and now in OS X).

 

[smulji]

Professional Photographers: Photos is a platform for OSX, not just an app. The app is only the front end UI that Apple provides. Extensions are what will make this infinitely powerful for professionals. Imagine Pixelmator being able to natively tap into your Photos library and execute non destructive edits that will then become available to your library through Photos.app on your Mac, iPad and iPhone.

Other extensions will add power to those who need it. Need more fine tune control for your EXIF data? More automated importing? There'll be an extension for that. A whole ecosystem is going to pop up and it'll be a serious threat to Adobe's Photoshop/Lightroom monopoly.

Photo libraries are now supported at the operating system level. This is huge.

That's definitely good news.

 

[petvas]

If you right click it, is there a "show package contents" item, and if so, what type of files are in there?

Similar to Aperture

 

[eatrains]

If you don't want to use iCloud Photo Library (and pay the monthly bill) can you still sync your library to an iOS device like you could with iPhoto/iTunes?

 

[petsounds]

The Recode article states that metadata can't be added to photos. Does this mean that the tags from iPhoto will be lost? That's the main way I search for photos.

 

[imcquill]

Similar to Aperture

Great. Presumably, inside those subfolders you eventually find all the jpg's etc. in your library?

 

[lvalenta]

The Recode article states that metadata can't be added to photos. Does this mean that the tags from iPhoto will be lost? That's the main way I search for photos.

No, they stay.. I hope Apple is going to work on metadata edit..