I agree with wanting it RIGHT...but Apple needs to remember to heed the greatest marketing rule: "under-promise and over-deliver". They should never have mentioned "end of October" at all.
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Apple Seeds iTunes 10.5.1 Beta 2 for Continued iTunes Match Testing
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I'm happy to wait for a relatively polished product. You can hold out for a final build with no bugs, but then you'd never actually get the final build. Release something that's 95% clean and then focus on the areas people have the most problems with in that remaining 5%.
I'm not surprised this hasn't come out of beta yet, it's the single buggiest cloud service I've ever used. The first time around it took 3.5 weeks and roughly 200 restarts of iTunes to get my iCloud library set up. At first I thought it was me, but a quick browse of these forums showed I was far from alone. In the process it renamed, retagged, and hid a bunch of my non-song MP3s (recordings of radio shows) from iTunes entirely. The files are still there, there's just no way to load them onto an iThing.
The second time it took more like 2 weeks and 150 restarts of iTunes. Maybe by the time it's released, I'll only have to quit and relaunch iTunes 6 or 7 dozen times to get it working.
That said, once it's set up, it's pretty cool, except for the whole "deleting all the local content off your device" thing, which hopefully won't make it to production.
By comparison, it took roughly 2 days and zero program restarts to get my entire library into Amazon Cloud Player.
The second time it took more like 2 weeks and 150 restarts of iTunes. Maybe by the time it's released, I'll only have to quit and relaunch iTunes 6 or 7 dozen times to get it working.
That said, once it's set up, it's pretty cool, except for the whole "deleting all the local content off your device" thing, which hopefully won't make it to production.By comparison, it took roughly 2 days and zero program restarts to get my entire library into Amazon Cloud Player.
A very wise decision (see iOS5 and Lion problems).
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Then download the newer beta. What is the problem? Are you a developer or not?
just upgraded to beta 10.5.1 and still stops with error 4002, so all y'all who want it so bad... no you don't.
Just wait. It works great when it works.
Just wait. It works great when it works.
Really? I'd say letting people use an old beta for ages is even more amateurish, but who am I to talk.
And we're back to trying to upload 1,000+ songs in my library instead of actually "matching" them.
As of last week, it was only trying to upload ~100 songs in my library.
This thing may not be close at all.
Edit: One positive, you can finally delete iCloud songs now.
As of last week, it was only trying to upload ~100 songs in my library.
This thing may not be close at all.
Edit: One positive, you can finally delete iCloud songs now.
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Not sure why.
AppleTV is setup at home on my network, and connects to my Mac for all of my iTunes content. aka Home Sharing.
iTunes Match is redundant.
Disappointing. They've had a good amount of time for this. At least offer somewhat of an explanation as to why it hasn't been delivered when promised?
They don't mention that the libraries may be reset (The have mentioned that in every other beta release), so that could mean this is just to get all of the developers updated before releasing it to the world in the next day or two.
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Love this feature. I only have laptops so a lot of times I don't have a laptop out and opened. This is going to be huge for me.
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Love this feature. I only have laptops so a lot of times I don't have a laptop out and opened. This is going to be huge for me.
Have you guys even read the OP or the thread and/or the preceding thread on the topic?
That's the "amateur hour" part - not updating the developers so that they could test what Apple is frantically trying to fix after the deadline.
Apple kept the OSX Intel build alive for years during the PowerPC days.
You'd think that some development manager would have tasked an intern to spend a couple of hours to make a patch to extend the expiration date on the developer's beta by a couple of weeks.
But even more scary is the possibility that the Imatch problems are so serious that extending the date of the older Itunes wouldn't work - they needed a new build of Itunes to deal with the big changes in Imatch.
That's not "amateur hour", that's "incompetent week".
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Edit: I got a PM that said that perhaps the developers' Itunes copies didn't expire after all....
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THANK GOD! you can finally hide past music purchases!!
up until 10.5.1 beta 2, every song thats been bought under your account in iTunes would show up in your playlists with no way to delete them. As of today, you can delete the songs that appear with the cloud icon, and the leave your library and "every iTunes match device". It works just like the app store where you can hide previous "purchases" but still be able to download them later through the iTunes store, all logged under the "purchased" tab.
EDIT: also new in 10.5.1 beta 2, if you sync with your music library under USB or whatever, and THEN enable iTunes match, it now recognizes that its the same library and doesn't delete the songs from the IOS device, even though the warning still pops up that it erases everything just like previous betas. this saves an enormous amount of downloading over the internet that was required before.
up until 10.5.1 beta 2, every song thats been bought under your account in iTunes would show up in your playlists with no way to delete them. As of today, you can delete the songs that appear with the cloud icon, and the leave your library and "every iTunes match device". It works just like the app store where you can hide previous "purchases" but still be able to download them later through the iTunes store, all logged under the "purchased" tab.
EDIT: also new in 10.5.1 beta 2, if you sync with your music library under USB or whatever, and THEN enable iTunes match, it now recognizes that its the same library and doesn't delete the songs from the IOS device, even though the warning still pops up that it erases everything just like previous betas. this saves an enormous amount of downloading over the internet that was required before.
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There was a new developer beta when Apple released iOS 5 to the general public. This version didn't expire this week.
Developers are emailed the day before iTunes match libraries are deleted.
Developers are emailed the day before iTunes match libraries are deleted.
I don't get it
If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.
I certainly missed something, but I'll stick to old school methods:
1. I'm the only one to rule over my music collection. I decide who to share my music with. I'm still the king in my little network
2. I can listen to anything I like everywhere, anytime, even if the net's not available
3. My music collection (with backup) is stored in my iPod and hard drives that I have physical control over. If anything fails I see it right away and can deal with it
4. All my stuff has a bit rate of at least 320 kbps and I don't want anything less ... even if my ears can't hear the difference
5. I'll spend $25 a year on music instead
If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.
I certainly missed something, but I'll stick to old school methods:
1. I'm the only one to rule over my music collection. I decide who to share my music with. I'm still the king in my little network
2. I can listen to anything I like everywhere, anytime, even if the net's not available
3. My music collection (with backup) is stored in my iPod and hard drives that I have physical control over. If anything fails I see it right away and can deal with it
4. All my stuff has a bit rate of at least 320 kbps and I don't want anything less ... even if my ears can't hear the difference
5. I'll spend $25 a year on music instead
Do you want it now, or do you want it done right? You could always get some half-baked piece of junk service like the new crashtastic Gmail app.
Considering how buggy ios5 has been for some users regarding battery life, etc... i'd rather wait than have them release a half-baked software.
If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.
I certainly missed something, but I'll stick to old school methods:
1. I'm the only one to rule over my music collection. I decide who to share my music with. I'm still the king in my little network
2. I can listen to anything I like everywhere, anytime, even if the net's not available
3. My music collection (with backup) is stored in my iPod and hard drives that I have physical control over. If anything fails I see it right away and can deal with it
4. All my stuff has a bit rate of at least 320 kbps and I don't want anything less ... even if my ears can't hear the difference
5. I'll spend $25 a year on music instead
Nah this is just part of there overall plan to move everything to the cloud. I recently got an iphone4 swap, at the store put in my apple id and bam i had everything on my phone pushed to it, apps, music, settings etc it was a pretty sweet experience.
Music being a big part and them knowing a lot of people still have mp3's laying around this is just a way to get that into the iCloud ecosystem.