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Apple Seeds iTunes 10.5.1 Beta 2 for Continued iTunes Match Testing
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Because it's US only at the moment. Other countries will follow fairly soon I believe.
I didn't know that capability was in the works. Is this a feature that showed up in the Beta releases, and if so, how well does it work?
Not having to make sure a computer is on and running iTunes every time I want to listen to music in my living room is going to be a huge plus.
Updated to the new beta but it seems that it is matching even less songs than before, only 71% of 18,000+ songs.
However, there is a cloud status which wasn't there before. Hoping once it is done uploading, it will say which tracks are matched and which aren't. They all say "Waiting" at the moment.
I hate waiting....lol
However, there is a cloud status which wasn't there before. Hoping once it is done uploading, it will say which tracks are matched and which aren't. They all say "Waiting" at the moment.
I hate waiting....lol
Actually one of the things I am interested in because I don't like keeping iTunes running on my main computer. I have everything on a network drive but of course AppleTV can't see it. Updating the software on the AppleTV and going to test this out and see how it works there.
Might need a second AppleTV I have been thinking about getting. Too bad it only has digital audio outputs.
Update: iTunes match works pretty slick on the AppleTV, including playlists. I definitely think $25 bucks a year is small for all the functionality it gives.
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FYI, When you turn on iTunes Match it still says iCloud libraries will be deleted at the end of the beta.
Also, it appears it's back to matching almost everything again (unlike last night). The only thing it wants to upload now is artwork, not actual music files.
Also, it appears it's back to matching almost everything again (unlike last night). The only thing it wants to upload now is artwork, not actual music files.
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If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.
I certainly missed something, but I'll stick to old school methods:
1. I'm the only one to rule over my music collection. I decide who to share my music with. I'm still the king in my little network
2. I can listen to anything I like everywhere, anytime, even if the net's not available
3. My music collection (with backup) is stored in my iPod and hard drives that I have physical control over. If anything fails I see it right away and can deal with it
4. All my stuff has a bit rate of at least 320 kbps and I don't want anything less ... even if my ears can't hear the difference
5. I'll spend $25 a year on music instead
Perfect! Save the bandwidth for me
. Apple isn't forcing you to anything, it's just an option.Well in regards to your points
1. Your music library is still on your computer, but Apple will know what you do have.
2. An internet connection is only required for any songs you haven't gotten from the cloud. Those you have downloaded to a device are already there.
3. If the the cloud is down, the music your download is still already on your device. Just can't get everything new.
4. Well 320 is more than 256, but I am in the opinion of if I can't tell, then it doesn't matter.
All my music won't fit on a 64 Gig device anyways. My core songs are on a play list which I will download those so I have them everywhere and everything thing else I can get if I want to hear them.
My family members can also access everything. My iTunes is the master catalog of music which everyone can choose from. I will rip the cds, place them on the network drive and then send them into the cloud.
Not an Apple fanboy, but I am seeing everything working together well. Still positive my Evo 3D is better than the iPhone but Match gives me one more thought of if I should switch to an iPhone (the small screen keeps me away still...lol)
If I understand correctly, Apple wants me - the average Mac-fan - to pay $25 a year in order to:
1. Lose control and privacy over my music library.
2. Become completely dependent on a good internet connection at any time.
3. Become completely dependent on iCloud to work well and smoothly at any time.
4. Listen to all my stuff on downgraded quality.
I certainly missed something, but I'll stick to old school methods:
1. I'm the only one to rule over my music collection. I decide who to share my music with. I'm still the king in my little network
2. I can listen to anything I like everywhere, anytime, even if the net's not available
3. My music collection (with backup) is stored in my iPod and hard drives that I have physical control over. If anything fails I see it right away and can deal with it
4. All my stuff has a bit rate of at least 320 kbps and I don't want anything less ... even if my ears can't hear the difference
5. I'll spend $25 a year on music instead
It's the man keeping you down.
All these various cloud plans are completely dependent on ATT, VZ and regional cable companies. Just saying...
What, a service that relies on internet connectivity is dependent on aforementioned internet providers?!? I'm so utterly shocked.... What are you trying to get at?
I'm not worried about Apple, I'm uneasy at the thought that my stuff will be traveling back and forth out of my control, without knowing who might intercept the info and for what purposes, including potential security breaches.
For the rest, I never said the new service was a bad idea for everybody. It's just that it doesn't suit my particular needs. I admit the features can come quite handy in a number of situations like yours.
Well I get security concerns. You mentioned privacy earlier. I would be far more worried about personal information backed up into the cloud backup than my music sitting there in the cloud.
I scanned my entire library and not one single song was matched and it would not upload them either. Before it matched around 8,000 or so out of my 12,000ish.
Well I re-ran Match because someone stated matching was improved this morning compared to last night (since it was still uploading 5,300 tracks I figured I had nothing to lose). It seemed to stall and never moved on step 2. Restarting it again to see if it can finish.
Maybe I shouldn't have stopped the uploading this morning...lol
Maybe I shouldn't have stopped the uploading this morning...lol
Something I noticed is that the part where it says uploading XXX items is a little misleading in that those items are necessarily unmatched tracks. I say ~700 out of 2100 and got slightly annoyed until I looked at the progress and noticed a huge chunk of those were artwork being uploaded, meaning my 690 odd items were in actuality maybe 200 tracks and the whole thing was done in 20 minutes.
I never noticed the artwork being uploaded so thanks. The last beta it did all of that overnight so I never saw it. On the bright side they added a new data field called "icloud status" so we can actually see what got matched.
So far I have seen the following:
Matched
Waiting
Purchased
Waiting
Error
Removed
Not Eligible
Guessing Uploaded will be there once I get there (again)
So far I have seen the following:
Matched
Waiting
Purchased
Waiting
Error
Removed
Not Eligible
Guessing Uploaded will be there once I get there (again)
Well, that's good news. How is it implemented, can you exclude things from the cloud or does it have to upload everything first then take things back out?
Any support for Lyrics in this new beta? Options to sync devices and get local copies of songs while Match is enabled, instead of having to get all data downloaded from apple's servers every time? Any better way of handling libraries over 25k songs instead of just refusing to work?
The previous thread had wrong info - the beta that expired was two or three betas old, the latest beta version did NOT expire. Betas are SUPPOSED to expire, it's only a problem when there's no new beta before the old one expires which wasn't the case here.
You don't understand correctly.
There was no option to select what got uploaded when it did it last night. It goes right to step 3 (uploading)
Now I am curious about delete as I don't want a family member accidentily deleting stuff from the cloud that I wanted there.
Quite true, but you know, privacy and security go together somehow.
When I was using Mac.com a few years back, I had no problems uploading critical stuff to Apple and synchronizing several Macs. I never had second thoughts about security or privacy.
I don't mind sharing playlists and what music I listen to, like in Last.fm. But there I feel I can control what's shared and what's not.
This cloud thing's just a little too much for me. Feels like the aliens are in charge now
I guess I'm irrationally reluctant. Just like it felt better with a Mac OS DVD in the drawer, compared to the way Lion works now, which can be confusing. Probably getting too old
They do go hand in hand to some degree. I guess if you are hacked there isn't either security or privacy...lol I like to think that even though security issues do exist, more effort is placed on protecting information now that ever before on the internet.
As far as downloading an OS, being a windows guy, that idea is totally foreign. I might be old, but I am a tech guy so I do not fear the cloud. Even have family members hopped up on the cloud idea...lol
rstark18: That isn't the new beta, that's old, released after they released iTunes 10.5. The new beta is 10.5.1.25 and just got released last night.
As far as downloading an OS, being a windows guy, that idea is totally foreign. I might be old, but I am a tech guy so I do not fear the cloud. Even have family members hopped up on the cloud idea...lol
rstark18: That isn't the new beta, that's old, released after they released iTunes 10.5. The new beta is 10.5.1.25 and just got released last night.